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A variety of iPhone users are are reporting that new MMS features have been enabled on their handsets in advance of AT&T's official start date of September 25.

Apple added new MMS support to iPhone 3.0 to allow users to send pictures, video and audio recordings, contacts, or locations from Maps via 3G-capable iPhones. However, use of the new feature requires operator support.

AT&T, apparently afraid that millions of new iPhone 3.0 users would completely ransack its existing MMS service, reportedly decided to put opt-out service codes on all of its iPhone users' accounts until the company could beef up its network to accommodate the new demand.

In announcing its plans to enable the feature for iPhone users, AT&T explained, "It was important to give our customers a positive experience from day one. We support more iPhone customers than any other carrier in the world so we took the time necessary to make sure our network is ready to handle what we expect will be a record volume of MMS traffic. We truly appreciate our customers patience and hope they'll understand our desire to get it right from the start."

Rather than turning on MMS service for millions of American iPhone users all at once, AT&T has been selectively activating users across the country. Once activated, iPhone 3G and 3GS users should see a new "Cellular Data Network" menu item within the General/Network page of the Settings app and a new camera icon within the Messages app for sending photos.



It's possible to install a modified carrier bundle for AT&T to activate MMS software features, but this does not necessarily result in functioning MMS. Without AT&T removing your opt out, MMS messages will queue up with a red exclamation icon as they fail to actually send.



Many users are reporting that there is no correlation between working MMS and either their installed software version, their carrier bundle version, their service or texting plan, or their geographic location. AT&T appears to turning on MMS for users at random to achieve a staggered release up to the September 25 deadline.
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AT&T appears to turning on MMS for users at random to achieve a staggered release up to the September 25 deadline.

stagger on, At&t
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doubt it's random. probably by something like billing cycle dates
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For all the hoo-ha about MMS, my guess is that it won't get used all that much or often.

MMS was for a different era.
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For all the hoo-ha about MMS, my guess is that it won't get used all that much or often.

MMS was for a different era.

MMS is not for a "different era". There are millions of phones that use it and have used it for much longer than Apple even thought about putting out an iPod.

Not everyone has a smart phone and that will be the case for years to come.

Prior to 3.0 we had to email one YES 1 photo at a time. In my family there are two smart phones that have email out of 5 kids (and I'm 45).

Get off your fricking high horse and realize this has been missing for no reason other than AT&T & Apple's making AT&T'S network even worse. Now (if rumors are correct) you are stuck with AT&T for years.

Enjoy the new feature which is 15 years old and no multi-tasking operating system.

I'm out of my contract next July and can't wait to embrace Android. Yes, they only have 10,000 apps but they aren't all FLASH LIGHTS AND FART APPS.
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For all the hoo-ha about MMS, my guess is that it won't get used all that much or often.

MMS was for a different era.

Get over your arrogance.
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I'll definitely use it (I already have it), because my son, nieces and nephew don't have iPhones, but have picture messaging.
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Now (if rumors are correct) you are stuck with AT&T for years.

Nooooo! It cannot be true! I want verizon behind my fart apps!!
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For all the hoo-ha about MMS, my guess is that it won't get used all that much or often.

MMS was for a different era.

I was thinking the same thing ... I must be missing something though, what is the purpose?
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For all the hoo-ha about MMS, my guess is that it won't get used all that much or often.

MMS was for a different era.

MMS did not exist in the last millenium. The first MMS message was sent in 2002. So yes its extremely relavent for the majority of users who want to send and receive pictures on their devices, especially if you wish to send them to someone whom you only have the phone number for. MMS is basically a multimedia SMS and will exist as long as we find SMS useful.

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I'll definitely use it (I already have it), because my son, nieces and nephew don't have iPhones, but have picture messaging.

You can send emails to MMS and they can send MMS to email. I stopped using MMS years ago before the iPhone mainly because many times people I know don't turn on their MMS service to avoid carrier charges and because the ridiculous per message charge and size limit. Furthermore, email is universal, works across borders, and more people are using iPhones, BB, Androids, .. etc.
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I was thinking the same thing ... I must be missing something though, what is the purpose?

Everyone you know has a smart phone right?

Then you are covered.

I have countless friends that still have RAZR's and whatever was popular in their day that send me pics of their kids, trips, etc in MMS (not everyone has disposable income and keep their phones until they just don't work anymore because they can't afford to upgrade to a plan that charges $30.00 per month for data.

Dumb phones (most of the phones sold on the planet) use MMS.
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Get over your arrogance.

I don't think anantksundaram is arrogant to say the obvious, MMS is from a different era as are floppy disks and CDs (or soon will be). However, after reading your longer rant, also to anantksundaram, I now understand, so for that I thank you for the explanation about older phones. I never used a cell phone for anything but phone calls prior to my iPhone. So called smart phones drove me nuts as their UIs were so badly designed so I didn't bother with them hence had noooo idea what MMS was lol. It is a staggering leap to go from a pre smart phone straight to a computer in my pocket but I love it!
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You can send emails to MMS and they can send MMS to email. I stopped using MMS years ago before the iPhone mainly because many times people I know don't turn on their MMS service to avoid carrier charges and because the ridiculous per message charge and size limit. Furthermore, email is universal, works across borders, and more people are using iPhones, BB, Androids, .. etc.

Again I'll repeat it.

Everyone in your life has email on their phone. You are covered. That is not the case with 85% of the phones that are being used.
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Everyone you know has a smart phone right?

Then you are covered.

I have countless friends that still have RAZR's and whatever was popular in their day that send me pics of their kids, trips, etc in MMS (not everyone has disposable income and keep their phones until they just don't work anymore because they can't afford to upgrade to a plan that charges $30.00 per month for data.

Dumb phones (most of the phones sold on the planet) use MMS.

Yep, everyone I know has an iPhone, here in the US as well as friends and family in Europe, so i am covered thanks, but again thanks for the info.
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I don't think anantksundaram is arrogant to say the obvious, MMS is from a different era as are floppy disks and CDs (or soon will be). However, after reading your longer rant, also to anantksundaram, I now understand, so for that I thank you for the explanation about older phones. I never used a cell phone for anything but phone calls prior to my iPhone. So called smart phones drove me nuts as their UIs were so badly designed so I didn't bother with them hence had noooo idea what MMS was lol. It is a staggering leap to go from a pre smart phone straight to a computer in my pocket but I love it!

You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can save files to your phone.
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can load more than 1 non iPhone app at a time
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you have a Web Browser that allows 3rd party apps.
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can edit documents and save them for a presentation for your next meeting.

You'll have a computer in your pocket when you don't have an iPhone and you have a Smart Phone. Techincally iPhones aren't even in the smart phone category.
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You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can save files to your phone.
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can load more than 1 non iPhone app at a time
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you have a Web Browser that allows 3rd party apps.
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can edit documents and save them for a presentation for you next meeting.

You'll have a computer in your pocket when you don't have an iPhone and you have a Smart Phone. Techincally iPhones aren't even in the smart phone category.

Wow you are in an angry mood! Having been with Apple since 1978 you will have to forgive my bias
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Wow you are in an angry mood! Having been with Apple since 1978 you will have to forgive my bias

I've used them for much longer than you have back to my first computer 512KE. I got smart and there is no Anger.

I was forced into the PC world when I grew up and had to use PC's to parse data files which introduced me to wonderful world of VB, which took me to SQL and that led to .Net which let to...

I can keep going. I have to deal with Macs becuase the company I work for is an advertising Agency. We are not even allowed wthin the same domain as the rest of our Corprate Network.

We have not made the leap to Snow Leapord and will not do so anytime in the near future.

We have to make a profit and can't afford an entire department that isn't on CS4 and has to print everday.

I'll give it as much time as we gave Vista. They are both that unstable with the testing we've done internally on our IT test machines.
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I've used them for much longer than you have back to my first computer 512KE.

Just for clarrification I wasn't trying to get into a pissing contest on who is older , I was referring to using Apple's not computers per se and by 'with Apple' I meant the company not the products.
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I've used them for much longer than you have back to my first computer 512KE. /QUOTE]

Just for clarrification I wasn't trying to get into a pissing contest on who is older , I was referring to using Apple's not computers per se and by 'with Apple' I meant the company not the products.

Just becuase this forum seems to think by putting a smiley face into your post you can slam someone and it makes the posting all right. It doesn't.

anantksundaram's comments were arrogant and normally are.
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Yep, everyone I know has an iPhone, here in the US as well as friends and family in Europe, so i am covered thanks, but again thanks for the info.

And just for Clarification, to say that everyone you know has an iPhone either means you live in a box or don't know that many people.
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You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can save files to your phone.
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can load more than 1 non iPhone app at a time
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you have a Web Browser that allows 3rd party apps.
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can edit documents and save them for a presentation for your next meeting.

You'll have a computer in your pocket when you don't have an iPhone and you have a Smart Phone. Techincally iPhones aren't even in the smart phone category.

Based on your above definition of a "computer", we didn't have a computer until the mid 1990s and everyone who used DOS and early versions of Windows and Mac OS didn't really have a computer. The definition of a computer is general and does not only apply to a laptop of a desktop computer. For example, the iPhones processor, RAM, and storage exceeds my 1998 Gateway desktop computer. However, my 1998 computer has a 20" display vs iPhone 3.5" display. You shouldn't expect them to do the same thing.
By the way, what is smartphone? technically.
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And just for Clarification, to say that everyone you know has an iPhone either means you live in a box or don't know that many people.

You are too funny. I am off to bed, thanks for the entertainment.
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Everyone you know has a smart phone right?

Then you are covered.

I have countless friends that still have RAZR's and whatever was popular in their day that send me pics of their kids, trips, etc in MMS (not everyone has disposable income and keep their phones until they just don't work anymore because they can't afford to upgrade to a plan that charges $30.00 per month for data.

Dumb phones (most of the phones sold on the planet) use MMS.

My wife's Verizon V710 dumb phone brick that is at least, what three maybe four years old, can send me a picture to my email. It is amazing how that works.

So stop stirring the pot about smart and dumb phones because if your friends want to send you a picture from their razor, they can deliver straight to your email without a data plan. My mom does that with her razor that is a dumb old phone as well.
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Prior to 3.0 we had to email one YES 1 photo at a time. In my family there are two smart phones that have email out of 5 kids (and I'm 45).

I'm out of my contract next July and can't wait to embrace Android. Yes, they only have 10,000 apps but they aren't all FLASH LIGHTS AND FART APPS.

Or Apps like SendPhoto which allowed me to attach multiple full size photo's to emails for over a year...

"Enjoy the new feature which is 15 years old and no multi-tasking operating system."

15 years???

That's surprising as the World's first camera phone was only released nine years ago by Sharp.

There's nothing like a little over-exageration to emphasize a good whine.
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I was thinking the same thing ... I must be missing something though, what is the purpose?

It's faster than email ,plain and simple. No need to wait for it to travel through servers, etc. It goes right to the phone number. You don't have to compose an email- texting is much more instantaneous. And many don't have access to email as easily as iPhone and smartphone users do- but everyone has a cell phone for receiving MMS!
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Based on your above definition of a "computer", we have a computer until the mid 1990s and everyone who used DOS and early versions of Windows and Mac OS didn't really have a computer. The definition of a computer is general and does not only apply to a laptop of a desktop computer.

This isn't mid 1990's this is 14 years later than that. A lot has changed since then.
If that is your only basis for a computer in your pocket then Get the Big Parachute pants of the mid 1990's and put your notebook in your big pockets. That's the only way you'll have a modern operating system in your pocket if you choose Apple as a solution for your Mobile Phone solution. A mobile Smart Phone OS for 2009 means you have a multi-tasking OS in your pocket.

Most of the world doesn't (including all iPhone owners) which still makes a 15 year old MMS "feature" relevant for today.
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You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can save files to your phone.
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can load more than 1 non iPhone app at a time
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you have a Web Browser that allows 3rd party apps.
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can edit documents and save them for a presentation for your next meeting.

You'll have a computer in your pocket when you don't have an iPhone and you have a Smart Phone. Techincally iPhones aren't even in the smart phone category.

Computer - noun - an electronic device for storing and processing data, typically in binary form, according to instructions given to it in a variable program.

It seems I have a computer in pocket.

I can save files to my phone?

What is a "non iPhone app"??? Is that an app not for the iPhone?

And you are so correct. My iPhone is not in the Smart Phone category. It is in teh uber phone category and there is no equal to it's dominance.
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This isn't mid 1990's this is 14 years later than that. A lot has changed since then.
If that is your only basis for a computer in your pocket then Get the Big Parachute pants of the mid 1990's and put your notebook in your big pockets. That's the only way you'll have a modern operating system in your pocket if you choose Apple as a solution for your Mobile Phone solution. A mobile Smart Phone OS for 2009 means you have a multi-tasking OS in your pocket.

Most of the world doesn't (including all iPhone owners) which still makes a 15 year old MMS "feature" relevant for today.

Now you have variable rules to define something? It is or it isn't. Now you are saying a modern OS in your pocket. So is it a computer or modern OS in your pocket? Which one are we suppose to talk about? You're being unclear.

A mobile Smart Phone OS for 2009 means not a lot of anything. Your definition of a Smart Phone is your definition and not the rest of the worlds.
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Or Apps like SendPhoto which allowed me to attach multiple full size photo's to emails for over a year...

"Enjoy the new feature which is 15 years old and no multi-tasking operating system."

15 years???

That's surprising as the World's first camera phone was only released nine years ago by Sharp.

There's nothing like a little over-exageration to emphasize a good whine.

It seems to be the way of this forum and were not talking cameras in this particular room we're talking MMS which has been used by countless millions of people and still is everday.

And you are correct MMS is 7 years old. putting Apple 7 years behind the rest of the Mobile OS arena. My aplogies.

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This isn't mid 1990's this is 14 years later than that. A lot has changed since then.
If that is your only basis for a computer in your pocket then Get the Big Parachute pants of the mid 1990's and put your notebook in your big pockets. That's the only way you'll have a modern operating system in your pocket if you choose Apple as a solution for your Mobile Phone solution. A mobile Smart Phone OS for 2009 means you have a multi-tasking OS in your pocket.

Most of the world doesn't (including all iPhone owners) which still makes a 15 year old MMS "feature" relevant for today.

Multitasking is not 2009 feature. Many older smartphones did multitask. As many said before the iPhone does multitask but not for third party apps. For example, I can use Nike+, listen to my music, and browse using Safari or use any third party app if I want to all at the same time.
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You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can save files to your phone.
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can load more than 1 non iPhone app at a time
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you have a Web Browser that allows 3rd party apps.
You'll have a computer in your pocket when you can edit documents and save them for a presentation for your next meeting.

You'll have a computer in your pocket when you don't have an iPhone and you have a Smart Phone. Techincally iPhones aren't even in the smart phone category.

I'm sorry, but if you're saying the iPhone isn't a smart phone, than your post is definitely an angry one. I don't even think Ballmer would be ballsy enough to make that case. Sure, apple picks and chooses its features at its pace, but what else would the phone be called?

Plus, your definition of a computer is pretty limited, honestly I have never been sitting around on my phone wishing i had a bunch of 3rd party apps clogging up my safari. Plus, why is everyone so gung ho about background tasks, since the inclusion of push messaging I am down to exactly one app that would be nice in the background, pandora. The 3gs loads all my apps so fast I don't really feel like they're closed at all. What am I gonna do, play 3 games on a phone simultaneously? I mean, my internet browser, my music player, my gps app, my email app all are made by apple, and as you already pointed out, all run in the background. So what's left?

So really, the only point you made worth mentioning is the ability to edit documents which i'm sure is in the pipeline. However, again, i doubt thats gonna be a major feature, how often would i do some hardcore editing on a phone when I wouldn't just pick up my laptop?

Everyone who owns an iphone thinks of it as a computer. I mean, I don't even have internet at home because my iPhone pretty much handles it all. I do work on my laptop, load it to the phone and can connect it with the rest of the world no matter where I am or what I am doing. By no means would this work for everyone, but it should be noted how effective the method is.

Maybe when iphones will be able to project\\display the image effectively on a larger surface then everything you mentioned would be a valid point for why the iPhone isn't a computer. For now, though, most of the "features" you mentioned would be more annoying than useful on a device with a 4 inch screen.

Oh, and MMS is totally from a different era. And no, an era is not an eon as one commenter seemed to misconstrue, eras last until a groundbreaking achievement changes the game. It is like when the iron age first started I'm sure many people still only smelted bronze. Sure, many people haven't upgraded to smart phones, but it clearly is the way of the future and MMS will only be useful for a max of 5 years. Oh, and as other users have pointed out I've been able to access other peoples MMS messages from safari the whole time and there are ways to have an email ported to MMS for other phones.
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It seems to be the way of this forum and were not talking cameras in this particular room we're talking MMS which has been used by countless millions of people and still is everday.

And you are correct MMS is 7 years old. putting Apple 7 years behind the rest of the Mobile OS arena. My aplogies.

Floppy drives were once used by millions and no one bought a computer without one. Whether you like it or not, MMS will disappear because there is an alternative (email). It is just a matter of time.
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Now you have variable rules to define something? It is or it isn't. Now you are saying a modern OS in your pocket. So is it a computer or modern OS in your pocket? Which one are we suppose to talk about? You're being unclear.

A mobile Smart Phone OS for 2009 means not a lot of anything. Your of a Smart Phone is your and not the rest of the worlds.

In todays standards Apple is the only "Smart Phone" which it isn't classified as a Smart PHone on any mobile website, is the exception to the rule that a smart phone can run multiple Apps that are not defined by Steve Jobs.

It's the same reason the iPod Touch doesn't have a camera. Steve wants it to be a gaming device.

I want to define what I want on my phone/computer/media player. Not Steve Jobs.
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In todays standards Apple is the only "Smart Phone" which it isn't classified as a Smart PHone on any mobile website, is the exception to the rule that a smart phone can run multiple Apps that are not defined by Steve Jobs.

It's the same reason the iPod Touch doesn't have a camera. Steve wants it to be a gaming device.

I want to define what I want on my phone/computer/media player. Not Steve Jobs.

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Floppy drives were once used by millions and no one bought a computer without one. Whether you like it or not, MMS will disappear because there is an alternative (email). It is just a matter of time.

And now is not the time, as yet once again I say countless millions of phones don't have email.

Until the time that over 50% of phones have push email (not just through MobileMe) then it is still the preferred "Standard" for sending a quick photo to someone.

Something this room seems to have a lack of other than iPhone and Mobile Me users.

There is a reason Apple is less than 10% of the desktop OS and this is just one of them.

It's not always Apple's way or the highway. Why do you think QuickTime never took off?

Apple prefers to keep people in a little box that says you can have this this year and next year (if you complain enough) we'll give you this.
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And now is not the time, as yet once again I say countless millions of phones don't have email.

Until the time that over 50% of phones have push email (not just through MobileMe) then it is still the preferred "Standard" for sending a quick photo to someone.

I have push email without MobileMe using Yahoo and my works Exchange account. Do your research next time.

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Something this room seems to have a lack of other than iPhone and Mobile Me users.

If you are looking for MS, Palm, or BB users then your are in the wrong place.

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There is a reason Apple is less than 10% of the desktop OS and this is just one of them.

It's not always Apple's way or the highway. Why do you think QuickTime never took off?

Maybe because MS stole QT code?!
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I have push email without MobileMe using Yahoo and my works Exchange account. Do your research next time.

You have push email because of Microsoft and Yahoo happens to use exchange server. GMail doesn't. And yes I have done my reserarch. Which all points me away from Apple.

If I want push email I have to use an email service that has MICROSOFT EXCHANGE or Mobile Me.

That doesn't leave a lot for people that don't want a @yahoo.com email address or happen to run an exchange server at home. Let's face it @yahoo.com is no where near as usefull as Gmail which actually synch's your phones email to your G mail account.

When I delete an email on my work phone it delete's from my entire email account so I don't have anthing to synch when I get back to work.
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Maybe because MS stole QT code?!

And yet I don't see it anywhere but on Apple sites. Go figure.
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