Originally Posted by ifail
Really, care to point out any errors in my logic? You think for some reason the touch rivals PSP or DS (ill be even kind enough to go regular GB) that would show just how much YOU dont know anything, other than being a biased fanboy with no objectivity.
Sorry these MS boys keep blasting your stupidity into oblivion, i dont blindly follow any company with loyalty...not sure why you do either but thats cool.
Lets see, i didnt really want to address the flame-bait remark you made about marketshare (you'd know all about that being on the bottom of the PC food chain)
Your first major error is stating so blindly that the Zune has better hardware. Care to show that's true? The Tegra, while pretty good doesn't show anything that's better than what's in the 3GS or new Touch, possibly, it's even a bit worse. Sure, I see some non technical type reviewers gushing over the Tegra, but they don't show much knowledge about it either.
Also those of you who are so into the DS and PSP fail to understand that a successful game machine doesn't need to have the games YOU like, but rather, the game that the other 80% of the population who play games likes. The number of games sold on the Apple platform shows that, yes, in the 18 months or so that OS 2 had enabled programs, games are very popular on the platform. It also takes time to come up with a program after an SDK is available, so bigger games didn't start coming out until some time after. If you look around, you WILL see some pretty good "gamers" games, with plenty more coming, but I expect that you will try very hard to denigrate them as that moves against your opinion on those games.
I don't believe that anyone would say that the platform is, right now, able to challenge the DS for leadership, though challenging the PSP is already happening. But in a couple of years, when the sales can reach 60 million units a year, and higher after that, then yes. After all, even Nintendo has only predicted that its DS sales will at best, equal last years sales with an estimate of 30 million sales.
Another mistake you make is to believe that almost all the games on the DS and PSP are heavy duty games, when they aren't. Most games for the DS in fact are for younger kids. I know, my kid has been using the Nintendo portable players since the first came out, and also has most other gaming platforms. She's now 18, and finds the DS to be less interesting than before, as do her friends.
So who are we talking about here as what you would like to call "gamers"? Is it that fairly small crowd, who like RPG games so much, or FPS games? Or is it the vast majority, as shown by studies who prefer, and play, more casual games.
They are ALL gamers as they play games, and that's all that matters.
As far as the controls on the Apple devices, yes, they sure are different. And for those who are used to more physical controls, they can be disappointing. At first my daughter didn't like them at all. now, she's much more used to them and is beginning to find them to be fine, not perfect. But then, she also admits that for a number of things, they are better. Depends on the game, and how it;s written.
It's like the virtual keyboard. Those who are familiar with the old little bubble keys don't like it, certainly at first. But those who have never used them, do like the virtual keyboards, often a lot. So what you are used to also matters. As more people get used to the virtual controls, they will like them as well, and we may still get add on controls. One is out, and two more may be here for the holiday season.
Also, having your gaming platform be in the same case as your phone, iPod etc is an advantage. Even the DS was forced to add Music playback.
So I think what you've said is wrong. I really don't think you've thought it out. I think that you're being defensive towards your favorite gaming platforms, and also possibly, antagonistic towards Apple's.