Originally Posted by sprockkets
Never going to happen. Apple not putting flash on the iphone is retribution to Microsoft for bundling Flash in IE back in the mid 90s to kill Quicktime.
Payback's a bitch!
That's not quite the point of what they're doing. Apple's overall strategy, as far as anyone can tell, seems to be to level the playing field so that their already kickass products will sell on their own merits, instead of being unfairly squashed by an inferior product that got a free pass early on. To accomplish this larger goal, they're willing to help others achieve smaller ones.
An example of where this is already working is in the smartphone market, where the iPhone is quickly becoming the dominant player, not because Apple used illegal and predatory practices to prevent competition from taking place, but because the iPhone competed successfully
On the Web, the main problem is that "rich" content (i.e. more than just words and pictures) is mostly tied to Flash right now, which is a completely proprietary browser plugin controlled by one company alone, and which is not interoperable with other parts of the Web. (I think it's only within the last year that I even heard murmurs about making Flash content searchable by search engines. This is after over a decade of sitting pretty thanks to Microsoft's "leg up".) Essentially, Adobe makes Flash especially for Windows nobody can argue that the Mac version of the plugin isn't horribly crippled in performance, and Adobe doesn't appear to want to improve that situation. (Much like their other desktop software, come to think of it.)
a) plead with Adobe to develop a Flash plugin capable of running on the iPhone platform, hope they someday decide to deliver, and from then on be slaves to Adobe's whims as far as web content goes, OR...
b) work to undermine
Adobe's stranglehold on rich Web media and applications by pushing open standards that anyone can use, using a cross-platform browser (Safari) and engine (WebKit, now being adopted by myriad other browsers as well) that stay on the cutting edge of such standards to make them more attractive.
on the page, even retaining text's ability to be selected and copied without requiring any extra developer legwork. Support for HTML5 stuff like video tags, gradually (through adoption) obviating the need to use Flash just to deliver video.
By pushing (and helping to develop) these standards, Apple is trying to make the web a platform where everyone with the know-how, not just those who've shelled out for a Flash license, can create and deliver interactive web-based media and applications that compete on their own merits. And competing on their own merits is something Apple happens to be good at. I'm sure you can draw the parallels to the situation between Apple and Microsoft without too much trouble.
Originally Posted by GrumbleGus
Balmer has become the post turtle of the computer industry.
"When you're driving down a country road and you see a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a post turtle. You know he didn't get up there by himself and he can only see in the direction he has been turned. He doesn't belong there; he can't get anything done while he's up there; and you just want to help the poor, dumb thing down."
THIS. I LOVE THIS.