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A pre-release build of the next update to Mac OS X 10.6 was seeded to developers Monday, bringing a long list of changes, fixes and tweaks.

People familiar with the latest build, dubbed 10C514, said the latest update has general focus areas that affect just about every facet of the operating system, from the applications like the Address Book and QuickTime, to services like Spotlight and Time Machine, and basic hardware functions like USB and Bluetooth. The disk image has a 445.4MB file size.

The update reportedly features dozens of areas of change, including fixes for AppleScript, graphics drivers, Xtype, OpenCL and more.

The pre-release build also allegedly comes with a handful of known issues, including hang-ups with the DVD player, crashing of the parental controls preference pane, and a glitch where the system does not recognize an optical drive.

Monday's release is the first that Mac OS X 10.6.2 has been seen by developers. It will become the second maintenance update for Snow Leopard.

Released just days after the launch of Snow Leopard, Mac OS X 10.6.1 addressed printer issues, updated the Adobe Flash Player plug-in, and resolved issues with the Mail application, among other fixes.
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i'm worried to see airport not mentioned.

i wrestled with a fucking 2wire modem for an hour last night to get it to grab an IP.
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i'm worried to see airport not mentioned.

i wrestled with a fucking 2wire modem for an hour last night to get it to grab an IP.

Odd. I'm using a 1st-gen Intel iMac running SL with a 2-wire modem. Had no problems whatsoever with obtaining an IP address using both the LAN port and in Wireless mode.

My MBA has no issues either with it. Has there been any tweaking with the 2-Wire box? Perhaps the firmware is out of date?
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I have an issue with network disconnections when copying files between my PC and Mac and the battery charging time is wrong. It can say there's an hour left to charge, then all of a sudden it is fully charged. Funny. The more I check how much time is left, it shows more and more time left to charge.
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What is Xtype? I've never heard of it in my 9 years of using Mac OS X. Google just turns up a typing tutorial program.
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I work at an Apple reseller and I can state that the 2Wire wireless router is the biggest POS router on the planet! And that opinion was formed before Snow Leopard came out.

If someone walks in with flaky connection issues I always ask if they are with Telus (they give free 2wire routers with their internet contracts) 95% of the time they are. This was pre SL as well.
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i know i know..

i am traveling and staying in pre-furnished apartments.. so i have to take what i can get. i have a 20MB comcast connection with a dualband airport extreme at home. i am dying.


the apple discussion boards are full of people with 2wire issues post upgrading to SL. given i'd never fucking use a 2wire unless i had to- i took it that it wasn't just me.

but it's good to know 2wire is a POS. they really lucked out with their DSL monopoly- they don't even have to support it. AT&T does.. and well..

shitshow in effect
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better drivers for the GTX 285
TRIM support so I can finally buy an SSD

Good to see Apple on the ball getting these updates out quickly
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I'd like to add to the harsh blows to the freebie modems given out to unwary customers. It's worth your hair staying on your crown to immediately throw their junk in the trash and get an Apple AE or other brand name that you're familiar with.
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Hope this update fixes the iPhoto 09 issues. Since upgrading to Snow Leopard, my system freezes and requires a hard reboot when I attempt to edit a photo. Seems to be an issue for a lot of Mac Mini users.

My Snow Leopard experience has been great otherwise. My Mini is so much quicker now.
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Finally we get a fix for Time Machine! I was frustrated at repairing the hard drive, Disk Utility finding no errors, while DiskWarrior said there were about 40,000 and fixed them. And then said that the Time Machine image was "corrupted" and said error 109 that the backup image couldn't be read. And I never even touched the image apart from deleting it and backing up again from scratch a few days before. Time Machine worked perfectly on Leopard... I couldn't understand why it didn't work correctly on Snow Leopard. Anyway, glad Apple is finally coming out with a fix to that Oh, and utorrent (microtorrent) causes a kernel panic (forcing a hard reboot) every so often whenever it's run, whereas it didn't on Leopard... but that's not Apple's fault at least.
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How about Mobile Accounts sync? Mobile Sync is still broken on my 2 test clients with Leopard Server. I cannot roll out 10.6 at all until this is fixed. It works on initial start up then after about an hour it loses connection to the AFP server and requires a full restart to be able to sync again. Unacceptable! It's like they didn't even test it at all in a networked environment!
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How about Mobile Accounts sync? Mobile Sync is still broken on my 2 test clients with Leopard Server. I cannot roll out 10.6 at all until this is fixed. It works on initial start up then after about an hour it loses connection to the AFP server and requires a full restart to be able to sync again. Unacceptable! It's like they didn't even test it at all in a networked environment!

I'm going to rethink being an early adopter in the future.

I have SL working pretty smoothly on most everything now, but the upgrade seems to have caused me way more headaches than improvements. I feel like I got caught up in the hype.
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Please apple - fix the finder!! Im sick of having to restart when files won't launch on double clicking them!, such as DMGs, Archives and PDFS - Its doing my head in! Argghhh.
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Please apple - fix the finder!! Im sick of having to restart when files won't launch on double clicking them!, such as DMGs, Archives and PDFS - Its doing my head in! Argghhh.

Here's what's going on:

http://arstechnica.com/staff/fatbits...ta-madness.ars

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...ator_code.html
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Please apple - fix the finder!! Im sick of having to restart when files won't launch on double clicking them!, such as DMGs, Archives and PDFS - Its doing my head in! Argghhh.

Sadly, this now "Works as intended." Apple screwed this up by design. Sad really.
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i'm worried to see airport not mentioned.

i wrestled with a fucking 2wire modem for an hour last night to get it to grab an IP.

But your neighbor will have no problem.
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Hopefully this fixes regressions in the graphics drivers which should to faster Macs.

I really like SL and fortunately don't have the issues many here complain about. SL has fixed so many things I can't see going back to Leopard at all. Plus it is snappy!!!!


Dave
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Hopefully this fixes regressions in the graphics drivers which should to faster Macs.

I really like SL and fortunately don't have the issues many here complain about. SL has fixed so many things I can't see going back to Leopard at all. Plus it is snappy!!!!


Dave

agreed
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i'm hoping for a fix to the 'added leading to type 1 font' problem that is plaguing xpress users (among others). doubt it. but am still hoping.
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Meanwhile, other developers are reporting that Safari seems snappier in build 10C514
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I'll wait a bit before upgrading to 10.6.2 when it comes out. My system is stable compared to when I first loaded the 10.6.0. Mail and the Finder don't crash and I have a printer driver. Yippie! That's good enough for me.

I may skip 10.6.2 unless in has some new feature in it that make my eyes pop out.
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Based on the history of past 10.x.2 releases, I expect 10.6.2 to be released during October.
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Sadly, this now "Works as intended." Apple screwed this up by design. Sad really.

i am confused. my dmgs, pdf, etc work fine with finder. Am i missing something?
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Did they fix Exposé? The 10.6 re-implementation was so useless (to me and many others) that I reverted to 10.5.8 after battling with it for a while.
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Wishlist:

better drivers for the GTX 285
TRIM support so I can finally buy an SSD

Good to see Apple on the ball getting these updates out quickly

What is TRIM? I have swithced to a SSD in my MBP 13" after a week and it works fine as far I have noticed! And its fast... Swooooosh :-)
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I hope people who crib here have taken the time to actually submit a bug report to Apple using their website. Here is a link. http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

Personally, I am still enjoying Leopard while the SL disc in the shelf next to my Mac keeps taunting me. I am waiting for 10.6.2 to settle before I upgrade with a combo update to 10.6.2.
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talksense101, you'll enjoy the new install/upgrade process. Updates are cobbled together in the beginning so you can go make a sandwich and come back when it's finished.

Unless I missed something, the delta vs. combo update paradigm has been dropped. I only saw one version of the update. So I guess this means we can enjoy the simplicity of updating our computers via the Software Update panel.
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There are definitely some WiFi issues that need to be resolved. I've been able to reliably reproduce MAC errors via WiFi on the same Macs that don't show the same error when booted in 10.5.x. I really hope Apple fixes this.
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I hope people who crib here have taken the time to actually submit a bug report to Apple using their website. Here is a link. http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

I've sent in @ 100 bug reports involving Adobe CS4 and crashing while saving (do a google search). Wonder if Apple will include a fix for this EXOTIC bug seeing that "saving" and "saving as" are so rarely used. Having one of the Macs largest installed app having such a problem should have gotten their attention. By the way, when was the automatic bug report added to OS X? 10.6.1 was the first time I've encountered it. Now I see it EVERY time I use CS4. WELCOME BACK STEVE! WITH THIS RELEASE OF OS X YOU CAN STOP TAKING SHOTS AT VISTA!
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I'm going to rethink being an early adopter in the future.

I have SL working pretty smoothly on most everything now, but the upgrade seems to have caused me way more headaches than improvements. I feel like I got caught up in the hype.

That's a good idea if you just want things to work. Early adopting is really for the tech-saavy who can't wait and don't mind going through the growing pains because they are enjoying the new features and can work around the broken ones.

I think Apple did themselves a disservice by releasing SL earlier than expected. It caught many developers off guard and software that almost every Mac user uses, such as Growl and 1Password were not ready at all for the release.

But, I'm still enjoying it nonetheless. I'm slowly but surely replacing all my software with 64-bit versions. Next, the kernel. Then the 6-4 reboot
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I've sent in @ 100 bug reports involving Adobe CS4 and crashing while saving (do a google search). Wonder if Apple will include a fix for this EXOTIC bug seeing that "saving" and "saving as" are so rarely used. Having one of the Macs largest installed app having such a problem should have gotten their attention. By the way, when was the automatic bug report added to OS X? 10.6.1 was the first time I've encountered it. Now I see it EVERY time I use CS4. WELCOME BACK STEVE! WITH THIS RELEASE OF OS X YOU CAN STOP TAKING SHOTS AT VISTA!

CS4 has always given me headaches, even with Leopard, and not just while saving. It crashes almost every time I use it, sometimes while just scrolling with the mouse.

Adobe is one of the last remaining companies with software that is so expensive. They should be serving up updates much more often.
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How about Mobile Accounts sync? Mobile Sync is still broken on my 2 test clients with Leopard Server. I cannot roll out 10.6 at all until this is fixed. It works on initial start up then after about an hour it loses connection to the AFP server and requires a full restart to be able to sync again. Unacceptable! It's like they didn't even test it at all in a networked environment!

By Leopard Server you mean 10.5.x?

I don't think Apple officially support 10.6 clients on older servers - the other way (older clients on new server) is.
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I hope people who crib here have taken the time to actually submit a bug report to Apple using their website. Here is a link. http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

Personally, I am still enjoying Leopard while the SL disc in the shelf next to my Mac keeps taunting me. I am waiting for 10.6.2 to settle before I upgrade with a combo update to 10.6.2.

That's not the actual bug reporter link: it's at http://radar.apple.com. You'll need a developer account, but the free one will do.

Using radar, though, they expect you to write your reports in a certain format, with expected results and actual results, and steps to reproduce. It's more effort than just a sentence saying "Airport doesn't work right".

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I've sent in @ 100 bug reports involving Adobe CS4 and crashing while saving (do a google search). Wonder if Apple will include a fix for this EXOTIC bug seeing that "saving" and "saving as" are so rarely used. Having one of the Macs largest installed app having such a problem should have gotten their attention. By the way, when was the automatic bug report added to OS X? 10.6.1 was the first time I've encountered it. Now I see it EVERY time I use CS4. WELCOME BACK STEVE! WITH THIS RELEASE OF OS X YOU CAN STOP TAKING SHOTS AT VISTA!

Not Just CS4. When I try to save web pages as PDFs from Safari, they save correctly, but then Safari randomly crashes after the save. When I save MS Office 2008 documents, they save crrectly but randomly the Office apps crash after the save.

Also importing into Office 2008 Apps ramdomly causes crashes. Like importing a jpg into Power Point results in random crashes.

Most of the time it all works according to plan, but the randomness is just frequent enough to be annoying and makes me wonder if SL did not fully install properly... or are these just bugs in SL
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CS4 has always given me headaches, even with Leopard, and not just while saving. It crashes almost every time I use it, sometimes while just scrolling with the mouse.

Adobe is one of the last remaining companies with software that is so expensive. They should be serving up updates much more often.

After evaluating CS4 we stuck with CS3 as we just could not justify the upgrade cost. Looks like we were right to as we have had ZERO issues with CS3 on SL.
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Not Just CS4. When I try to save web pages as PDFs from Safari, they save correctly, but then Safari randomly crashes after the save. When I save MS Office 2008 documents, they save crrectly but randomly the Office apps crash after the save.

Also importing into Office 2008 Apps ramdomly causes crashes. Like importing a jpg into Power Point results in random crashes.

Most of the time it all works according to plan, but the randomness is just frequent enough to be annoying and makes me wonder if SL did not fully install properly... or are these just bugs in SL

Did you install SL ove an existing Leopard install or wipe the system and install from fresh?

We backed up and erased all of our systems before installing SL and we have had no issues whatsoever.

On my own iMac 24" ALU 3.06Ghz I run the following daily without any crashes

Office 2008 (mainly word and excel)
Mail
iChat
Adium
iCal
Safari
iPhoto
iTunes (seems to take a bit longer to load up since v9)
Rapidweaver
CS3 (mainly photoshop and Dreamweaver)
Parallels Desktop
Rivet (media sharing to 360 & PS3)
World of Warcraft
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Unless I missed something, the delta vs. combo update paradigm has been dropped. I only saw one version of the update.

Maybe because there has only been one 10.6.x update so far?

A single data point does not make a trend.
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Did you install SL ove an existing Leopard install or wipe the system and install from fresh?

We backed up and erased all of our systems before installing SL and we have had no issues whatsoever.

On my own iMac 24" ALU 3.06Ghz I run the following daily without any crashes

Office 2008 (mainly word and excel)
Mail
iChat
Adium
iCal
Safari
iPhoto
iTunes (seems to take a bit longer to load up since v9)
Rapidweaver
CS3 (mainly photoshop and Dreamweaver)
Parallels Desktop
Rivet (media sharing to 360 & PS3)
World of Warcraft

It was over the most updated version of Leopard. I debated doing a wipe and clean install like I do witn my Windows machines, but I have had such good luck with just letting the Apple stuff upgrade the way it sees fit.... until now? Still not sure I have a good understanding of the the whole "Archive and Install" process or what it does. I know it suppose to completely replace the previous OS.... but why archive it...? what does that do. If I use Archive and install, do I need to reinstall aps? can I then delete the old archive..? Is that really the point of "Archive and Install"... to in effect wipe the system and install new but leave all other apps in places? does doing this mean the apps are left in place but you need to recreate individual settings for them? So many questions. My main reason for not doing the wipe clean and install clean was so I did not have to reload not only my whole computer, but then re-syncing two AppleTVs with 40 GB of stuff on each.
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