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post #41 of 66
10/6/09 at 5:37am
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i'm hoping for a fix to the 'added leading to type 1 font' problem that is plaguing xpress users (among others). doubt it. but am still hoping.

Glad to see someone still cares about Xpress. Still my fav.
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post #42 of 66
10/6/09 at 5:43am
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What is TRIM? I have swithced to a SSD in my MBP 13" after a week and it works fine as far I have noticed! And its fast... Swooooosh :-)

it's a special command to optimize how the OS talks to SSD's to make it faster. SSD's read and write data differently than hard disks so Apple and Microsoft had to put this command into their OS's.
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post #43 of 66
10/6/09 at 6:15am
has anyone noticed what they did in 10.6 with expose and cmd-tab? that huge blue rectangle that appears before the window shows in the screen doesn't look good

wonder if they intended this?
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post #44 of 66
10/6/09 at 6:22am
Is the Airport Extreme Base Station still a recommended buy.
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post #45 of 66
10/6/09 at 6:35am
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Is the Airport Extreme Base Station still a recommended buy.

When wasn't it? If you have primarily Macs it is the simplest to configure and maintain.
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post #46 of 66
10/6/09 at 8:12am
First off, I'm NOT trolling, I upgraded both my Macs days after SL was released.

That said, there seems to be an awful lot of fixes not long after SL went gold. For an OS that was supposed to be about quality and stability instead of new features this is somewhat akin to a bad joke.

Unlike MS with their slew of security patches - these are FUNCTIONALITY fixes. Sad.
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post #47 of 66
10/6/09 at 9:26am
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Originally Posted by MarkAllan View Post

Did they fix Exposé? The 10.6 re-implementation was so useless (to me and many others) that I reverted to 10.5.8 after battling with it for a while.

Dit it fall on Exposé alone?
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post #48 of 66
10/6/09 at 9:50am
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Did it fall on Exposé alone?

Yes, I'm afraid it did. I had gone to the trouble of finding work-arounds for all the other issues and incompatibilities, but I use Exposé and Spaces so frequently that it was simply unworkable. I actually thought that my using it so much would help me adjust to the new implementation quickly, and I gave it a full month of trying, but I just couldn't get used to the new behaviour.

I won't list all the issues I had with it (unless others want me to) as it'd basically take over the thread because I know some people like the new way and I don't want to start a flame war. All I'm hoping for is a preference option to have the old behaviour back.
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post #49 of 66
10/6/09 at 10:08am
I would like to see just one bug fixed: Allow the dimmest screen setting to be saved upon reboot.
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post #50 of 66
10/6/09 at 10:46am
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First off, I'm NOT trolling, I upgraded both my Macs days after SL was released.

That said, there seems to be an awful lot of fixes not long after SL went gold. For an OS that was supposed to be about quality and stability instead of new features this is somewhat akin to a bad joke.

Unlike MS with their slew of security patches - these are FUNCTIONALITY fixes. Sad.

Agreed. I updated a few days after the release, and reverted to Leopard a week later. The OS update was $29, but getting fixes to all the programs that it broke was over a $100; not counting the innumerable updates I had to download that were free. And then the data-destroying Rosetta problems.

I never had a Rosetta blue screen, but 4 WindowServer crashes apart from that (each reported to Apple via CrashReporter). No real new functionality for the end user, a lot of work for developers, and a scad of upgrades for end users. Snow Leopard needed more time before release.
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post #51 of 66
10/6/09 at 11:26am
So what about Blu-Ray movie playback support?! I have to imagine that the imminent iLife '10 will support Blu-Ray movie burning... It had best be 100% 64-bit too, including iTunes! Front Row needs to go 64-bit, but that's probably timed with the next Apple TV update... Not to mention DVD Player and Grapher...
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post #52 of 66
10/6/09 at 11:30am
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Audio over the mini DisplayPort?

I will second that motion!!!
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post #53 of 66
10/6/09 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by apsynknod View Post

Is the Airport Extreme Base Station still a recommended buy.

I have two: one at the "office" and one at my "home office".

Both have worked flawlessly since day one ( almost two years now) and have not stumbled at all with the upgrade to SL.

It's the only way I ever connect to my MPB 17 C2D
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post #54 of 66
10/6/09 at 12:52pm
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I've sent in @ 100 bug reports involving Adobe CS4 and crashing while saving (do a google search). Wonder if Apple will include a fix for this EXOTIC bug seeing that "saving" and "saving as" are so rarely used. Having one of the Macs largest installed app having such a problem should have gotten their attention. By the way, when was the automatic bug report added to OS X? 10.6.1 was the first time I've encountered it. Now I see it EVERY time I use CS4. WELCOME BACK STEVE! WITH THIS RELEASE OF OS X YOU CAN STOP TAKING SHOTS AT VISTA!

That gem is on Adobe.
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post #55 of 66
10/6/09 at 3:35pm
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I would like to see just one bug fixed: Allow the dimmest screen setting to be saved upon reboot.

Me too. I've submitted a bug report via ADC Bug Reporter on that exact issue, and hopefully the problem will be fixed. If you set the Brightness slider on System Preferences > Display just above the minimum, the setting should be retained across reboots (at least that is true on a iMac 7,1).

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post #56 of 66
10/6/09 at 3:50pm
Somewhat off-topic, but interesting nonetheless:

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post #57 of 66
10/6/09 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by Davebhc View Post

I've sent in @ 100 bug reports involving Adobe CS4 and crashing while saving (do a google search). Wonder if Apple will include a fix for this EXOTIC bug seeing that "saving" and "saving as" are so rarely used. Having one of the Macs largest installed app having such a problem should have gotten their attention. By the way, when was the automatic bug report added to OS X? 10.6.1 was the first time I've encountered it. Now I see it EVERY time I use CS4. WELCOME BACK STEVE! WITH THIS RELEASE OF OS X YOU CAN STOP TAKING SHOTS AT VISTA!

When i first started using SL, CS4 crashed all the time when saving and save for web. After 10.6.1 came out, those issues went away. Try reinstalling 10.6.1 using the Combo updater.
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post #58 of 66
10/6/09 at 7:56pm
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A pre-release build of the next update to Mac OS X 10.6 was seeded to developers Monday, bringing a long list of changes, fixes and tweaks.

People familiar with the latest build, dubbed 10C514, said the latest update has general focus areas that affect just about every facet of the operating system, from the applications like the Address Book and QuickTime, to services like Spotlight and Time Machine, and basic hardware functions like USB and Bluetooth. The disk image has a 445.4MB file size.

The update reportedly features dozens of areas of change, including fixes for AppleScript, graphics drivers, Xtype, OpenCL and more.

The pre-release build also allegedly comes with a handful of known issues, including hang-ups with the DVD player, crashing of the parental controls preference pane, and a glitch where the system does not recognize an optical drive.

Monday's release is the first that Mac OS X 10.6.2 has been seen by developers. It will become the second maintenance update for Snow Leopard.

Released just days after the launch of Snow Leopard, Mac OS X 10.6.1 addressed printer issues, updated the Adobe Flash Player plug-in, and resolved issues with the Mail application, among other fixes.

Does anyone know if the SL 10.6.2 version has an update for the Geforce GTX 285 Mac Edition. If so, does it correct the power management problem of the GTX 285?
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post #59 of 66
10/6/09 at 9:25pm
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Originally Posted by Davebhc View Post

I've sent in @ 100 bug reports involving Adobe CS4 and crashing while saving (do a google search). Wonder if Apple will include a fix for this EXOTIC bug seeing that "saving" and "saving as" are so rarely used. Having one of the Macs largest installed app having such a problem should have gotten their attention. By the way, when was the automatic bug report added to OS X? 10.6.1 was the first time I've encountered it. Now I see it EVERY time I use CS4. WELCOME BACK STEVE! WITH THIS RELEASE OF OS X YOU CAN STOP TAKING SHOTS AT VISTA!

How is it Apple's fault that Adobe's program but no one elses seems to be having this issue? If anything that bug report list should be sent to Adode who given the number of issues in CS4 seems to hire programmers from Bizzaro World.
Bizzarro Cyborg: I learn about tech-no-lo-gyyyy. Watch me interface with computer. (Slams head into monitor)
Only in Adobe's case the programmer slams his head into the keyboard.

Seriously, given that CS4 stayed 32 bit on the Mac odds are is the program uses Carbon and I further suspect that some unsupported 64 Carbon calls are in the thing. Hence the problems.
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post #60 of 66
10/7/09 at 5:35am
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Originally Posted by Davebhc View Post

I've sent in @ 100 bug reports involving Adobe CS4 and crashing while saving (do a google search). Wonder if Apple will include a fix for this EXOTIC bug seeing that "saving" and "saving as" are so rarely used. Having one of the Macs largest installed app having such a problem should have gotten their attention. By the way, when was the automatic bug report added to OS X? 10.6.1 was the first time I've encountered it. Now I see it EVERY time I use CS4. WELCOME BACK STEVE! WITH THIS RELEASE OF OS X YOU CAN STOP TAKING SHOTS AT VISTA!

There is no comparison between SL and Vista. You can make them, but public opinion at large decides the issue, not those of us trapped in the MacRumors bubble.

Everyone's got their anecdotal experiences, but so far, there's been no discernible uproar of any kind. But you're more than welcome to try to create one.
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post #61 of 66
10/7/09 at 5:45am
Did they fix Expose? Chug, chug, struggle, struggle...

What about the font rendering? Hey, I know, I'll just render this font without any regard to the pixel grid, hey that's a good idea. What, it's blurry? How dare you say that about my Platonic perfectionism.
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post #62 of 66
10/7/09 at 11:36am
I want to know when they are going to release a update that fixes the 64bit kernel problem with most macs. I have a 2 year old iMac 7,1 which has a 64bit Cpu, logic board, and 64bit software. It also has the 64bit efi installed out of the box and yet it still will not let me boot to 64bit kernel. I know people say that they is no difference and that I am still getting to use 64bit apps even running the 32bit kernel but I paid for a 64bit machine and the 64bit software and I want the 64bit kernel. The other thing that ticks me off is that my fairly new computer does not support OpenCL. It sucks that only people who just purchased an imac this year will be able to take advantage of OpenCL when it's implemented. The rest of us who recently spent over $2000.00 on a top of the line iMac don't even get to use these new features. All of this could simply be fixed with an update from Apple. But i'm sure they won't because they want us to buy a new one. And next month they'll be announcing a new iMac so the people who just bought one this month will feel ripped off too. For a machine that is supposed to last several years without upgrade they sure do change them pretty fast.
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post #63 of 66
10/7/09 at 2:49pm
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I want to know when they are going to release a update that fixes the 64bit kernel problem with most macs. I have a 2 year old iMac 7,1 which has a 64bit Cpu, logic board, and 64bit software. It also has the 64bit efi installed out of the box and yet it still will not let me boot to 64bit kernel. I know people say that they is no difference and that I am still getting to use 64bit apps even running the 32bit kernel but I paid for a 64bit machine and the 64bit software and I want the 64bit kernel.

Have you tried holding down the 6 and 4 keys while booting?
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post #64 of 66
10/8/09 at 2:19am
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...and I want the 64bit kernel.

Why? To run the 64bit kernel extensions that 3rd party developers haven't made yet?
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post #65 of 66
10/8/09 at 2:12pm
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There is no comparison between SL and Vista. You can make them, but public opinion at large decides the issue, not those of us trapped in the MacRumors bubble.

Everyone's got their anecdotal experiences, but so far, there's been no discernible uproar of any kind. But you're more than welcome to try to create one.

You can compare the two. They are computer operating systems. They do the same thing, just differently.

Of course you'll refute every point I just made, but remember that most normal people out there don't give a damn about what OS they use as long as it does what they need it to do.
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post #66 of 66
10/9/09 at 2:49pm
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That's a good idea if you just want things to work. Early adopting is really for the tech-saavy who can't wait and don't mind going through the growing pains because they are enjoying the new features and can work around the broken ones.

I think Apple did themselves a disservice by releasing SL earlier than expected. It caught many developers off guard and software that almost every Mac user uses, such as Growl and 1Password were not ready at all for the release.

But, I'm still enjoying it nonetheless. I'm slowly but surely replacing all my software with 64-bit versions. Next, the kernel. Then the 6-4 reboot

Here's to hoping that Apple (or the hackers out there with great machines like my MacPro) will give us an EFI update that will change the EFI chip in my Octo-Core 3GHz Mac Pro to 64 bit. Apple has released EFI updates in the past, so this ought to be a possibility.
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