Originally Posted by NoahJ
That answer is not acceptable, you only have to wait a few thousand years to understand. Be patient.
The whole human race has developed over thousands of years. Well, except the religionists. They seem stuck in the medieval.
Your position is becoming clearer to me now.
It has some way to go though still...more fog to lift as it were...
I am not suggesting that we can ever understand or "know" God. I also do not believe that we need to in order to have a relationship with him that has meaning.
Meaningful relationships are largely a product of the mind. There is no reason why God should even know you exist...
Thank you for telling me what I think. I have not actually spoken on that potion of my beliefs.
I think you'll find you did...
Your interpretation of what I said is actually very wrong. I do not believe that "the other players" get to choose anything. Reread my post. It seems that you do not believe in free will as well? I don't claim to understand all the reasoning behind why God allows things to happen. Anyone who does is either very broadly generalizing or likely outright lying to you. There is also the possibility that God told them...
As it happens I do not believe in free will but that is besides the point.
The point is that an omnipotent Creator God cannot be limited by anything - the God you are postulating, or, shall we say, religionists are postulating, is a limited God.
He is a slave to the concept of free will...that is, He is subservient to it.
Or perhaps, alternatively, He is not subservient to it but believes in the concept so much He refuses to exercise His power to over-rule people's will even if it means they will rot in Hell for eternity.
Niether is plausible. And neither is a God we should really want to do anything with other than oppose.
Fortunately, this God is the product of ignoble and limited minds and we really don't need to worry too much. If He exists then it is Him who is 'evil' and those who reject Him who are 'good' but it is highly unlikely that He does so it's win-win.