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post #321 of 355
1/18/10 at 8:48am
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My, you do enjoy the use of the word enjoy.

It is a fact that when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected, there was an outpouring of celebration from many conservative Americans. I have posted links on this thread to prove this.

Instead of denying or affirming this, you concentrate on my grammar and on the definitions of quantifiers. This is cowardly and dishonest. I expect nothing else.

It is a fact also that you have tried, over many pages of this thread, to deny that when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected, there was an outpouring of celebration from many conservative Americans. Instead of denying or affirming this statement, you concentrate on my grammar and definitions.

You do this because you do not want to contemplate the revolting behaviour of your side.

Enjoy avoiding facts you dont like.

Your claim is patently false because your sample size is anecdotal and made up of crap you found on the internet.

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post #322 of 355
1/18/10 at 9:04am
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Your claim is patently false because your sample size is anecdotal and made up of crap you found on the internet.

Yes, Trumptman. I read that post.

The thing is, even if my grammar is as bad as you say it is, it is still a fact that there was a very public outpouring of celebration from prominent American conservatives when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected.

That is still a fact.

And it is still a fact that you continue to deny it.

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Your claim is patently false because your sample size is anecdotal and made up of crap you found on the internet.

There was a very public outpouring of celebration from prominent American conservatives when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected. It was not a secret. It happened. It really did. And my grammar does not change that fact.
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post #323 of 355
1/18/10 at 9:14am
I don't remember that happening. I think it's one of those things that "we all know" because someone at the NYT or HuffPo said it did.

What I remember is that some wags got a good chuckle out of it and used it to point out the ineptitude of Obama and his team. It was the beginning of the end of Obama's "show up, smile and they'll love US (again)" foreign policy.
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post #324 of 355
1/18/10 at 9:27am
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I don't remember that happening. I think it's one of those things that "we all know" because someone at the NYT or HuffPo said it did.

What I remember is that some wags got a good chuckle out of it and used it to point out the ineptitude of Obama and his team. It was the beginning of the end of Obama's "show up, smile and they'll love US (again)" foreign policy.

Hey FloorJack.

Nah, it really happened. There really was a very public outpouring of celebration from prominent American conservatives (commentators on the media, activists on blogs, conferences) when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected. I posted a bunch of links.

Here's a post with some of them:

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showp...&postcount=248

I posted a bunch of others too.
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post #325 of 355
1/18/10 at 9:42am
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Yes, Trumptman. I read that post.

The thing is, even if my grammar is as bad as you say it is, it is still a fact that there was a very public outpouring of celebration from prominent American conservatives when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected.

That is still a fact.

And it is still a fact that you continue to deny it.



There was a very public outpouring of celebration from prominent American conservatives when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected. It was not a secret. It happened. It really did. And my grammar does not change that fact.

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post #326 of 355
1/18/10 at 9:59am
Ah, trumptman, you have just posted a photograph of a woman and a large turd in a toilet boil.

And yet it is still a fact that there was a very public outpouring of celebration from prominent American conservatives when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected.

To put it another way:

EVEN THOUGH you have posted a picture of someone's shit, IT IS STILL TRUE that there was a very public outpouring of celebration from prominent American conservatives when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected.

And it is STILL TRUE that you deny it.

Now, why is that?
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post #327 of 355
1/18/10 at 10:10am
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Hey FloorJack.

Nah, it really happened. There really was a very public outpouring of celebration from prominent American conservatives (commentators on the media, activists on blogs, conferences) when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected. I posted a bunch of links.

Here's a post with some of them:

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showp...&postcount=248

I posted a bunch of others too.

A bunch of cranks posting in internet forums is meaningless. Got anything salacious from congress members or party leaders?
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post #328 of 355
1/18/10 at 10:24am
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A bunch of cranks posting in internet forums is meaningless. Got anything salacious from congress members or party leaders?

I've got Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck live on air to an audience of millions, I've got a meeting of Americans for Prosperity (Mike Huckabee was there, having just spoken, but wasn't in the room) and I've got Michelle Malkin and others...

The links are all there upthread.

Yep, that's some very public celebrating from prominent and activist American conservatives when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected.
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post #329 of 355
1/18/10 at 10:26am
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Originally Posted by Mumbo Jumbo View Post

Ah, trumptman, you have just posted a photograph of a woman and a large turd in a toilet boil.

And yet it is still a fact that there was a very public outpouring of celebration from prominent American conservatives when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected.

To put it another way:

EVEN THOUGH you have posted a picture of someone's shit, IT IS STILL TRUE that there was a very public outpouring of celebration from prominent American conservatives when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected.

And it is STILL TRUE that you deny it.

Now, why is that?

Please link to where I denied it. You can't because I never denied the exception. Thanks, for playing try again.

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post #330 of 355
1/18/10 at 10:34am
Interesting, trumptman!

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Your claim is patently false because your sample size is anecdotal and made up of crap you found on the internet.

The words YOUR CLAIM IS PATENTLY FALSE are A DENIAL.

And oh look! EVEN THOUGH you have posted a picture of a girl on bicycle, IT IS STILL TRUE that there was that there was a very public outpouring of celebration from prominent American conservatives when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected.

But I'm interested.

Do you deny that there was a very public outpouring of celebration from prominent and activist American conservatives when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected?
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post #331 of 355
1/18/10 at 10:38am
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Interesting, trumptman!

The words YOUR CLAIM IS PATENTLY FALSE are A DENIAL.

And oh look! EVEN THOUGH you have posted a picture of a girl on bicycle, IT IS STILL TRUE that there was that there was a very public outpouring of celebration from prominent American conservatives when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected.

But I'm interested.

Do you deny that there was a very public outpouring of celebration from prominent and activist American conservatives when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected?

See you want to play games MJ. My denial is on your statement that contains the quantifier "many."

You then make up quotes and claim that I denied any as opposed to many.

You can't find a quote where I ever denied any because the dispute has always been about many.

Please find the quote from me that supports your claim. It doesn't exist. If you can't find it, then withdraw the claim as you have had to do already in three other instances in this thread. You've already been proven wrong three times. The last one is just the same.

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post #332 of 355
1/18/10 at 10:56am
I don't give those people a lot of weight either. Talk radio gets it highest ratings when it's most vitriolic.
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post #333 of 355
1/18/10 at 11:08am
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Originally Posted by s.metcalf View Post

Um, he can speak English and has more than two brain cells to his name. That's a start.

See below...

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Have you ever paid close attention to Obama when he speaks without a teleprompter?

I always end up wondering when he's going to complete his sentences.


Exactly. He doesn't sound intelligent at all. There is nothing to make me believe this guy is any smarter than Bush. In fact, he sounds less intelligent a lot of the time.
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post #334 of 355
1/18/10 at 12:06pm
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See you want to play games MJ. My denial is on your statement that contains the quantifier "many."

Thats nice. You really like that failblog, dont you?

Anyway. Your objection was only to my use of the word many then?

OK. So at least you agree that it is a fact that prominent conservative Americans, broadcasters, activists and writers, publicly celebrated when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected?
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post #335 of 355
1/18/10 at 12:27pm
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Thats nice. You really like that failblog, dont you?

Anyway. Your objection was only to my use of the word many then?

It took this many pages and half a dozen people for you to finally get this?

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OK. So at least you agree that it is a fact that prominent conservative Americans, broadcasters, activists and writers, publicly celebrated when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected?

I've already answered this. Go find the answer and quote it instead of repeating the question. Learn some good habits.

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post #336 of 355
1/18/10 at 12:39pm
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It took this many pages and half a dozen people for you to finally get this?

I've already answered this. Go find the answer and quote it instead of repeating the question. Learn some good habits.
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It's a really long thread.

Just remind me.

Do you or do you not agree with the fact that prominent conservative Americans, broadcasters, activists and writers, publicly celebrated when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected?
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post #337 of 355
1/18/10 at 1:43pm
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It's a really long thread.

Just remind me.

Do you or do you not agree with the fact that prominent conservative Americans, broadcasters, activists and writers, publicly celebrated when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected?

Do a search. Use the quote function. If you are going to accuse people of saying something then you need to do the work to back it up.

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post #338 of 355
1/18/10 at 1:56pm
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Do a search. Use the quote function. If you are going to accuse people of saying something then you need to do the work to back it up.

I've done a search.

I see you do quite clearly agree that conservative Americans publicly celebrated when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected.

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No one has disputed that a plural number of conservative celebrated.

But do you agree that these were prominent conservative broadcasters, activists and writers who publicly celebrated when Barack Obama's pitch to the IOC was rejected?
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post #339 of 355
1/18/10 at 3:36pm
Sorry MJ but you've used up your time and goodwill. Between the false claims and the fake quotes, I don't really have time for your concerns. Maybe in another few months.

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post #340 of 355
1/18/10 at 11:21pm
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Sorry MJ but you've used up your time and goodwill. Between the false claims and the fake quotes, I don't really have time for your concerns. Maybe in another few months.



How terribly convenient!

I've used up my "good will" no, no no nonono I've used up my store of GOOD WILL from trumptman!

Well, I'm sorry, trumptman, but you brought the subject up again. YOU raised the subject of my inability to deal with quantifiers here, in this post: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showp...91&postcount=6

So, you can either apologise for that, or you can see this argument through to the end.

It's the only honourable thing to do.
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post #341 of 355
1/25/10 at 5:42am
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See below...




Exactly. He doesn't sound intelligent at all. There is nothing to make me believe this guy is any smarter than Bush. In fact, he sounds less intelligent a lot of the time.

Obama Uses Teleprompters During Speech To 6th Graders

6th Graders? 6th Graders. Really, this is ridiculous.

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post #342 of 355
4/4/10 at 7:46am
Perhaps we can start here.

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Liberals lack the capacity use reason, logic or to write in a lucid manner. Of course I only meant two liberals in that sentence but I do so enjoy implicating the whole group with my imprecise writing.

When you said

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Likewise there were lefties cheering when Reagan announced his Alheimers and also when he died.

do you mean ALL lefties? Or just one or two, as in the sentence above?
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post #343 of 355
4/4/10 at 8:00am
Good lord.

This just in!

I said that conservatives celebrated when Barack Obama's pitch to the IOC was rejected. You can review the last four pages of this thread, which are very instructive. Trumptman says that this wasn't true, despite the video, and the audio, and the transcripts (links above.)

Indeed, he said this, on this page:

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Your claim is patently false because your sample size is anecdotal and made up of crap you found on the internet.

So trumptman, when you say...

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Also on the OP topic, just like everyone else, I thought it had to be an April Fool Joke. George W. Bush has massive hate going on against him and it continues to this day. Likewise there were lefties cheering when Reagan announced his Alheimers and also when he died.

This changes EVERYTHING!

Perhaps we could start with your "sample size" of "lefties"?

We'll take it from there.
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post #344 of 355
4/4/10 at 11:45pm
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Good lord.

This just in!

I said that conservatives celebrated when Barack Obama's pitch to the IOC was rejected. You can review the last four pages of this thread, which are very instructive. Trumptman says that this wasn't true, despite the video, and the audio, and the transcripts (links above.)

Indeed, he said this, on this page:



So trumptman, when you say...



This changes EVERYTHING!

Perhaps we could start with your "sample size" of "lefties"?

We'll take it from there.

http://www.addyfree.org/aquatip/2004..._finally_.html At least one anyhow...
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post #345 of 355
4/5/10 at 12:28am
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http://www.addyfree.org/aquatip/2004..._finally_.html At least one anyhow...

Well, no, NoahJ, that doesn't prove that "lefties" celebrated when Reagan died. trumptman will tell you why.

Thanks, anyway.

trumptman. About your "sample size" of lefties.

Is it greater or larger than the video, audio, transcripts and links I provided showing conservatives celebrating when Barack Obama's pitch to the IOC was rejected?

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post #346 of 355
4/5/10 at 3:24am
Just to get on the bandwagon...



See! I can be as clever as Trumpy. Yay.
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post #347 of 355
4/5/10 at 4:42am
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Just to get on the bandwagon...



See! I can be as clever as Trumpy. Yay.

Or as dull as Artman.
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post #348 of 355
4/5/10 at 5:55am
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Or as dull as Artman.

If there was one thing about Artman it wasn't something " Dull ".
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post #349 of 355
4/5/10 at 7:55am
trumptman, when you say that "lefties cheered when Reagan announced that he had Alzheimer's", how can I be sure that the following isn't true?

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Your claim is patently false because your sample size is anecdotal and made up of crap you found on the internet.

It's just that you said that to me when I said that many conservatives celebrated when Barack Obama's pitch to the IOC was rejected, and showed you about a dozen links to prove it.

Just to be consistent, could you explain this to me?

Thanks!
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post #350 of 355
4/5/10 at 12:33pm
trumptman, it seems that this is a question you're trying to ignore. But it's very important indeed that you don't.

As I've noted, you've opened yourself up to accusations of terrible insincerity, hypocrisy and using annoying obfuscation to try and win an unwinnable argument.

You have the chance to prevent these accusations, and I'm sure you will, because clearly you have an excellent explanation. I'd like to give you the opportunity of sharing this explanation with everyone.

I said that many conservatives celebrated when Barack Obama's pitch to the IOC was rejected. One of your final arguments denying this was:

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Your claim is patently false because your sample size is anecdotal and made up of crap you found on the internet.

So when you say

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there were lefties cheering when Reagan announced his Alheimers and also when he died.

how does your "sample size" compare with mine, and how does your evidence compare with mine?
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post #351 of 355
4/6/10 at 6:30am
It seems to me that you finally agree with me! Finally!

If "lefties" might have "cheered" when Reagan announced that he had Alzheimers, "conservatives" might have celebrated when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected!

Finally! Ive proven my case, and you havent, but you agree that many conservatives celebrated when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected!

That wasnt so hard, was it? You wasted pages and pages arguing this with me, but finally! You agree that you wasted all that time, and that many conservatives did indeed celebrate when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected!

You havent shown a single piece of evidence, not one. And even though Ive shown video, and audio, and copied transcripts, and linked to blogs like Michelle Malkin, and Ive proved my case and you havent, you admit that, yes, conservatives cheered when Barack Obamas pitch to the IOC was rejected.

Excellent. Welcome back to reality, trumptman.

Welcome home.
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post #352 of 355
7/13/11 at 12:13pm
Considering Obama's popularity in the arab world is now lower than Bush's, I just had to come back and read through the comments in this thread.

It was difficult to do, as I just ate lunch.

Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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7/14/11 at 1:12am
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Considering Obama's popularity in the arab world is now lower than Bush's, I just had to come back and read through the comments in this thread.

It was difficult to do, as I just ate lunch.

Was it the turd in the toilet bowl picture or the posts?
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post #354 of 355
7/14/11 at 4:05am
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Exactly. He doesn't sound intelligent at all. There is nothing to make me believe this guy is any smarter than Bush. In fact, he sounds less intelligent a lot of the time.

Obama should stick to teaching and not politics.Bush is a complete ass hole and that stupid smile made him look more moronic.Both are not leaders!
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7/14/11 at 9:49am
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Or as dull as Artman.

Just on that image, I'm with tonton. Much funnier than Artman.
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