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I did not know that! Good feed!
In this part of the world (South and Southwest)people keep the A/C is running full and windows are closed in all kinds of mild weather. What part of fuel economy is wasted on running the A/C compressors? I have even witnessed (Central Texas visits) cars running with A/C running, UNATTENDED, in grocery parking lot. Also saw a lot of running diesel pickups for some dumb reason, even in spring and fall. when A/C is totally unwarranted due to prevailing cool ambient temps.

In 1948 A/C was driving 40+ MPH with windows DOWN and side vents windows tilted to reverse.

I think the big problem is that back in the day this wasn't true because of the massive inefficiency of the A/C compressors. However, the newer the vehicle the more efficient they are and, on top of that, they have better aerodynamics (lower coefficient of drag) and when you open the windows you kill that. The reason for the 40 mph is because drag has a velocity squared element in it's calculation so, as oppose to energy needed to run the A/C it isn't a constant (it's not even linear for that matter!).

I live in North Texas and, yeah, I see the same thing. Sitting in traffic w/ the A/C on isn't nearly as efficient as just rolling down the window and certainly leaving it in park is a bad idea. However, there may be an argument for leaving it running while you run inside. That would be the same as allowing your thermostat to go unchecked while you're at work and then get home and crank it down to 75 (or whatever). It actually turns out that it's more efficient to regulate the temperature throughout the day than it is to "spot cool" (for lack of a better phrase).

However, with all that said, it's still a bad idea (conservationaly speaking) to leave it running when it isn't moving. I still see cars driving down the highway at 60, 70 and even 80 mph with their windows down and, quite possibly the A/C on - that's a double whammy.

Is it just me or is "use the A/C above 40 and keep your windows rolled up" easier than asking people to constantly monitor their tire pressure?

Also, most morning I leave the windows up and just have my car bring in the outside air so I'm getting the benefits of no windows down nor am I running my A/C

EDIT: Depending on the vehicle your break even point will vary - the more aerodynamic the lower the break even speed, the less aerodynamic the higher the break even speed
post #162 of 196
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That's rather misleading - point to a bill that is 100% conservation and does nothing else but promotes conservation. There is no bill that has but 1 thing listed and that is "ask Americans to be more energy efficient" - there's always something else tied to it. All the bills are loaded with so many things you can say Republicans oppose x, y, and z and you can say Democrats oppose that same x, y, and z just because they were part of a different bill that was geared for something else.

That's akin to saying Republicans don't want people to have health care - every sane person wishes everyone had health care - that's not the argument. The argument is 1) how to implement it and 2) how to pay for it.

Are you being politically naive, or are you attempting to act that way?

We all know that 100% "pure" bills are impossible. The closest time was during the first five years or so of the Bush administration when the party rubber stamped most everything that came their way.

That's not going to happen anymore.
post #163 of 196
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Are you being politically naive, or are you attempting to act that way?

We all know that 100% "pure" bills are impossible. The closest time was during the first five years or so of the Bush administration when the party rubber stamped most everything that came their way.

That's not going to happen anymore.

I'm saying that pointing to a vote on a particular bill (which I'm guessing is the basis for your claim) is misleading. The Republicans put out a health care bill that would cover a lot of people but the Democrats opposed it so does that mean Democrats oppose public health care? Republicans have also put out conservation bills that the Democrats have opposed (based on other things in the bill) so does that mean Democrats oppose conservation? It's a cat and mouse game that's 100% political. Like I said, no sane person is against people having health care and no sane person wants you to burn through all your money on utilities (that's actually bad for the retail business, as was shown when the oil prices were so high, so even if the Republicans are 100% pro-business it's in their best interest to limit the amount of money spent on utilities so they can spend money elsewhere to stimulate the economy as a whole, not just a few oil companies. Also note that high oil prices hurt refineries profit margins so it's not good for them either).

Of course pure bills are impossible, that's my point. Until there is a pure bill it's rather hard to say any one party opposes something like conservation of energy.

That's not going to happen anymore? The Bush administration never went "nuclear" in the Senate and that's still on the table as a serious option - I don't think we've heard the last of the rubber stamp so long as any 1 party controls the White House, Senate and the House.
post #164 of 196
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I'm saying that pointing to a vote on a particular bill (which I'm guessing is the basis for your claim) is misleading. The Republicans put out a health care bill that would cover a lot of people but the Democrats opposed it so does that mean Democrats oppose public health care? Republicans have also put out conservation bills that the Democrats have opposed (based on other things in the bill) so does that mean Democrats oppose conservation? It's a cat and mouse game that's 100% political. Like I said, no sane person is against people having health care and no sane person wants you to burn through all your money on utilities (that's actually bad for the retail business, as was shown when the oil prices were so high, so even if the Republicans are 100% pro-business it's in their best interest to limit the amount of money spent on utilities so they can spend money elsewhere to stimulate the economy as a whole, not just a few oil companies. Also note that high oil prices hurt refineries profit margins so it's not good for them either).

Of course pure bills are impossible, that's my point. Until there is a pure bill it's rather hard to say any one party opposes something like conservation of energy.

That's not going to happen anymore? The Bush administration never went "nuclear" in the Senate and that's still on the table as a serious option - I don't think we've heard the last of the rubber stamp so long as any 1 party controls the White House, Senate and the House.

Except that the Republican bills are only being offered as weak substitutes to the other bills, or are being offered in order to make it impossible to get any agreement on either, and to therefor have the matter drop entirely. They aren't serious bills in their own right.
post #165 of 196
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

Time to let it go, man.

Please, please, at some point - 22 years is a long time - take advantage of all the plurality of views and scientific thinking that this great country has to offer, and not be blinded by the nonsense on either the left or the right. Please try to keep an open mind. O/w, you're falling into the same intellectual trap that you did when/where you grew up.

I am sorry but living there for 22 years isn't something you just forget about. Especially when I see what the left in this country is doing to change America in a fundamental way. I did not come here to have the government tell me what to do, what to drive or what to eat or force me to do anything I don't want to do. I saw what happened in Venezuela and the people that I knew from there, almost to a man said the same thing to me when I warned them about Hugo Chavez: "It will never happen to us; our country is different..."About 10 years later they have themselves another Cuba.
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post #166 of 196
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Except that the Republican bills are only being offered as weak substitutes to the other bills, or are being offered in order to make it impossible to get any agreement on either, and to therefor have the matter drop entirely. They aren't serious bills in their own right.

Wrong. There have been many serious Republican bills but there is nothing they can do since Dems have a super-majority. Dems really don't need a single Republican vote but they cry wolf because they don't want to own their own horrible bills all by themselves.
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post #167 of 196
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Originally Posted by X38 View Post

Then you will reach a very big number since his is pretty much the only traditional media company running counter to the general collapse of the traditional media business.

Now THAT would be funny if it weren't so scary a thought.

Seriously, though. Since when does someone besides the editorial board publish a daily "must cover these stories in THIS way" bulletin to each and every one of it's holdings?

Ever watch a taping of FAUX News in several different markets on the same day. Ever notice Murdoch "demanded" catch phrases used to prevent lawsuits and allow them to pose conjecture and their own opinions as "quoted" facts.

Ever hear the phrase "Some people say..." at the start of most FAUX News hack jobs?

But you're saying here that they are the only "traditional media business"?

WOW.
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post #168 of 196
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Originally Posted by danvid36 View Post

I am sorry but living there for 22 years isn't something you just forget about. Especially when I see what the left in this country is doing to change America in a fundamental way. I did not come here to have the government tell me what to do, what to drive or what to eat or force me to do anything I don't want to do. I saw what happened in Venezuela and the people that I knew from there, almost to a man said the same thing to me when I warned them about Hugo Chavez: "It will never happen to us; our country is different..."About 10 years later they have themselves another Cuba.

You are exaggerating what is happening.

We've had Republican presidents in the past who did more radical things than what is happening now.

When Eisenhower first proposed to built up the national highway system in the 50's, he was accused of being a Socialist.

Tax rates those days went as high as 90%, not a typo. Was that Socialist?

When Nixon went to China, he was accused of selling out.

Keep things in perspective.
post #169 of 196
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Originally Posted by danvid36 View Post

Wrong. There have been many serious Republican bills but there is nothing they can do since Dems have a super-majority. Dems really don't need a single Republican vote but they cry wolf because they don't want to own their own horrible bills all by themselves.

They don't have a super majority as the Republicans did for so long. Realistically, they would need over 65 Senators for that because they can't count on all Democrats for every vote.Democrats aren't as monolithic a party as the Republican party has become.

And they have nowhere near that in the house either.

And no, those competing bills aren't serious.

And before you say anything about me, I was a Republican for most of my life. When I was 18, I voted for Nixon. Voted for him again. Voted for Reagan twice. Then for Bush senior the first time.

But the party has moved too far to the right for me.
post #170 of 196
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

They don't have a super majority as the Republicans did for so long. Realistically, they would need over 65 Senators for that because they can't count on all Democrats for every vote.Democrats aren't as monolithic a party as the Republican party has become.

And they have nowhere near that in the house either.

And no, those competing bills aren't serious.

And before you say anything about me, I was a Republican for most of my life. When I was 18, I voted for Nixon. Voted for him again. Voted for Reagan twice. Then for Bush senior the first time.

But the party has moved too far to the right for me.

What's too far to the right?Reps lost because the last candidate, Juan MacCain the RINO is exactly what we don't need; someone who supports giving citizenship to illegal aliens, co-sponsored the bill by Feingold and who has the motivational skills of a brick.
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post #171 of 196
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What's too far to the right?Reps lost because the last candidate, Juan MacCain the RINO is exactly what we don't need; someone who supports giving citizenship to illegal aliens, co-sponsored the bill by Feingold and who has the motivational skills of a brick.

Well, I think bringing religiosity into politics as Republicans has done, is moving to the right. It's certainly the wrong direction for politics. his should be personal, not a matter of national politics.

Bush was attempting to turn the country into an oligarchy. That's pretty right wing.

You should remember that it was Reagan, the Conservative poster boy who first gave illegals amnesty.
post #172 of 196
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I am sorry but living there for 22 years isn't something you just forget about. Especially when I see what the left in this country is doing to change America in a fundamental way. I did not come here to have the government tell me what to do, what to drive or what to eat or force me to do anything I don't want to do. I saw what happened in Venezuela and the people that I knew from there, almost to a man said the same thing to me when I warned them about Hugo Chavez: "It will never happen to us; our country is different..."About 10 years later they have themselves another Cuba.

Given your personal experience I would think you would have some passing notion of what "socialism" actually is or what genuinely intrusive government controls look like.

Which industries has Obama nationalized, again? What draconian controls on your person or cohort has Obama enacted? Have your free speech rights been curtailed? Your right to assembly? Your right to worship as you please, or to access to the legal system, or keep and bear arms? Do you actually believe that expanding access to health care is some kind of evil plot to enslave you?

The Bush administration presided over a genuinely shocking extension of government power, granting the president the "right" to simply imprison and hold indefinitely any American citizen, without charges or access to the legal system. Did you fret about government invasiveness them? Did you speak up when the Bush administration assured us that, in order to protect us from terrorists, it would be necessary to vastly expand the government's power to monitor its citizens, and to do so unfettered by any judicial oversight?

Painting Obama as some kind of totalitarian tyrant is absurd. I realize its an absurdity that a certain element of the country is enthusiastically embracing, but that doesn't make it any less stupid.
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post #173 of 196
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Given your personal experience I would think you would have some passing notion of what "socialism" actually is or what genuinely intrusive government controls look like.

Which industries has Obama nationalized, again? What draconian controls on your person or cohort has Obama enacted? Have your free speech rights been curtailed? Your right to assembly? Your right to worship as you please, or to access to the legal system, or keep and bear arms? Do you actually believe that expanding access to health care is some kind of evil plot to enslave you?

The Bush administration presided over a genuinely shocking extension of government power, granting the president the "right" to simply imprison and hold indefinitely any American citizen, without charges or access to the legal system. Did you fret about government invasiveness them? Did you speak up when the Bush administration assured us that, in order to protect us from terrorists, it would be necessary to vastly expand the government's power to monitor its citizens, and to do so unfettered by any judicial oversight?

Painting Obama as some kind of totalitarian tyrant is absurd. I realize its an absurdity that a certain element of the country is enthusiastically embracing, but that doesn't make it any less stupid.

Expanding access to the health care system... suuuure, if by that you mean government takeover of it and forcing people to get health insurance or get fined or go to prison. That's unAmerican right there. A President telling the head of any given corporation to step down as he did with the GM CEO_what the hell do you call that? Anyone with half a brain knows that the surveillance you mention was done on individuals who were already being watched, or suspected of terrorism, not just any citizen and many a plot was discovered thanks to that. Which is precisely why very quietly, Obama has not done anything to stop that program.
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post #174 of 196
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

Well, I think bringing religiosity into politics as Republicans has done, is moving to the right. It's certainly the wrong direction for politics. his should be personal, not a matter of national politics.

Bush was attempting to turn the country into an oligarchy. That's pretty right wing.

You should remember that it was Reagan, the Conservative poster boy who first gave illegals amnesty.

I agree that religion and politics don't mix well. Don't agree with the oligarchy thing since there have been many left-wing ones as well. I also think that Romney would have made a great candidate and got shut down because of his religion which is really stupid because the man knows how the economy works and it was/ is precisely the economy that was the main issue for most of us during these past elections.
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post #175 of 196
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Expanding access to the health care system... suuuure, if by that you mean government takeover of it and forcing people to get health insurance or get fined or go to prison. That's unAmerican right there. A President telling the head of any given corporation to step down as he did with the GM CEO_what the hell do you call that? Anyone with half a brain knows that the surveillance you mention was done on individuals who were already being watched, or suspected of terrorism, not just any citizen and many a plot was discovered thanks to that. Which is precisely why very quietly, Obama has not done anything to stop that program.
Have a nice debunked day.

So you figure it works to just make up shit about things you don't like, while excusing actual excesses with a flippant little "it's OK if they abridge your rights if they think you're up to something."

You don't strike me as having thought very seriously about these matters. Oh, I don't think "debunked" means what you think it does.
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post #176 of 196
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I still see cars driving down the highway at 60, 70 and even 80 mph with their windows down and, quite possibly the A/C on - that's a double whammy.

You're absolutely right bigmc6000....but boy does it suit a hedonist's fancy; especially at night through the desert on the way back from a good trip to Vegas.
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White House Communications Director, Anita Dunn speaking to a High School class in June of this year (2009).

In the video, the Obama staffer reveals who she looks to for guidance in political philosophy, which would be none other that Charmin Mao, the Chinese Communist Dictator that was responsible for the death of over 70 Million people.

The Obama appointee also reveals how Chairman Mao came to power through fighting his own war and recommending this as a course of action to these teenagers.

Here is just another in the long line of radical Marxist/Communists surrounding our President and working out of the White House. And, at the same time, indoctrinating our children.

This video is from the Glenn Beck program and is approximately 5 ½ minutes long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXJjoruQs0Y
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post #178 of 196
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White House Communications Director, Anita Dunn speaking to a High School class in June of this year (2009).

In the video, the Obama staffer reveals who she looks to for guidance in political philosophy, which would be none other that Charmin Mao, the Chinese Communist Dictator that was responsible for the death of over 70 Million people.

The Obama appointee also reveals how Chairman Mao came to power through fighting his own war and recommending this as a course of action to these teenagers.

Here is just another in the long line of radical Marxist/Communists surrounding our President and working out of the White House. And, at the same time, indoctrinating our children.

This video is from the Glenn Beck program and is approximately 5 ½ minutes long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXJjoruQs0Y
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Your continued stream of nonsense and uncritical citations of the irresponsible idiots continues.

I only include Beck's false and distortedd claim for others' interest on this topic. You haven't contextually or sensibly responded to any that posters have provided on any topic. The subtlety and necessity of context eludes you. You are simply intent on repeating utter diatribes of adolescent crap that don't warrant a serious response. [Hence my use of crap]

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Throughout most of his October 15 Fox News program, Glenn Beck falsely claimed that White House communications director Anita Dunn "worships" and "idolizes" "her hero" Mao Zedong. In fact, in the video that Beck aired as evidence to support his claims, Dunn offered no endorsement of Mao's ideology or atrocities -- rather, she commented that Mao and Mother Teresa were her two of her "favorite political philosophers," and based on short quotes from them, she offered the advice that "you don't have to follow other people's choices and paths" or "let external definition define how good you are internally."

Dunn did not praise any of Mao's ideology or atrocities in video Beck aired

Dunn cited anecdotes about Mao and Mother Teresa to counsel that "[e]verybody has their own path." In the video of a speech to high school graduates earlier this year, Dunn cited Mao's response to skeptics who pointed out that their party was facing steep disadvantages while fighting the Nationalist Chinese: "You fight your war, and I'll fight mine." After asking the audience to "think about that for a second," she said, "You know, you don't have to accept the definition of how to do things, and you don't have to follow other people's choices and paths, OK? It is about your choices and your path." Likewise, Dunn cited Mother Teresa's response to a young person who wanted to work at her orphanage in Calcutta: "Go find your own Calcutta." Dunn then reiterated: "Go find your own Calcutta. Fight your own path. Go find the thing that is unique to you, the challenge that is actually yours, not somebody else's challenge."

For further perspective on how some politicians regard Mao's political philosophy for strategies on winning elections go to Karl Rove's column on his referral to George Bush, or Goldwater's adviser, Stephen Shadegg stating "in all ... campaigns where I have served as consultant I have followed the advice of Mao Tse-tung." ... warning, you must not be wearing tin foil when reading. Reserve that for gaggle-eyed Beck viewing.
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You are an idiot and a sheeple. Did you watch the video that I posted???Obviously not because what's on there is indefensible and videos cannot be refuted. Keep bullshitting yourself by calling video evidence of the criminals in this administration "crap" . That only makes you look like a fucking moron.

"Evidence of criminals"? I thought you were the one who was worried about Obama's totalitarian state, but you seem to be ready to criminalize citing the wrong historical figures.

Maybe mentioning Mao should get you thrown in a secret government prison. It's the only way to stop the totalitarian takeover.
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"Evidence of criminals"? I thought you were the one who was worried about Obama's totalitarian state, but you seem to be ready to criminalize citing the wrong historical figures.

Maybe mentioning Mao should get you thrown in a secret government prison. It's the only way to stop the totalitarian takeover.

So it is ok with you having government officials that admire and talk to children about someone who killed 70 million of his own???Is it???
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So it is ok with you having government officials that admire and talk to children about someone who killed 70 million of his own???Is it???

The message to the kids was "think for yourself, don't let anyone tell you can't do something." I disagree with the idea that Mao is a particularly useful example of self determination, but I doubt those kids were scarred for life.

But being impolitic isn't criminal. Is it?
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The message to the kids was "think for yourself, don't let anyone tell you you can't do something." I disagree with the idea that Mao is a particularly useful example of self determination, but I doubt those kids were scarred for life.

But being impolitic isn't criminal. Is it?

Unbelievable...I feel like I am talking to a bunch of lawn chairs. Other than telling you to watch the video where she openly talks about her admiration for Mao, I don't know what else to say. Someone like that should be nowhere near a position of power in this country.
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post #183 of 196
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... Keep bullshitting yourself by calling video evidence of the criminals in this administration "crap" . That only makes you look like a fucking moron.

You didn't get my usage correct.

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You are simply intent on repeating utter diatribes of adolescent crap that don't warrant a serious response.

I didn't call the video crap, I called your diatribes crap. As simple an example as that, your attribution is false. You don't digest information, you regurgitate, and eliminate waste matter ... non-nutritional, devoid of benefit, except to relieve yourself of pent-up bias. Do it in the privacy of your room.

On this forum or anywhere, have you heard yourself say something to the effect, "I'm not an expert in this, but, I heard x, y, and z from so and so ... is there another side to it ... is it out of context ... has it been accounted for, has this been distorted, etc."? That would be more than tolerable, it would be refreshing, a true search for what's real, beyond one's bias. Both parties could learn something ... maybe expand their worldview. With your current attitude, I have no further interest in participating in an "exchange" with you.
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Ok guys, if this continuous invective continues, I'm going to shut the thread down.
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Ok guys, if this continuous invective continues, I'm going to shut the thread down.

Says the pot to the kettle. Seriously, you're as much responsible for the thread going to where it is as anyone else.
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Says the pot to the kettle. Seriously, you're as much responsible for the thread going to where it is as anyone else.

I don't think that's true.

You can disagree with someone without bitter invective or name calling. Mel obviously doesn't share your (and others) politics, but he didn't belittle you (or anyone).
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I don't think that's true.

You can disagree with someone without bitter invective or name calling. Mel obviously doesn't share your (and others) politics, but he didn't belittle you (or anyone).

I didn't say he did, I'm saying he sent the thread to where it was. Go back and read through the thread, without actually going into name calling he's clearly pointed the thread into a nice political conversation which, as I'm sure you know, is going to end up with name calling (as it has on here for seemingly years).

I guess I just think of moderators as moderate who try to keep the peace rather than throwing in their own views that are meant to incite confrontation. You can't seriously think that saying this:

"You don't need to hold the majority view to have the biggest ratings on a news cable channel.
What you need is rabid people who tune it in because it reinforces their own extreme views.
And that's enough extreme politics here."

Isn't going to piss some people off can you?
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Originally Posted by bigmc6000 View Post

I didn't say he did, I'm saying he sent the thread to where it was. Go back and read through the thread, without actually going into name calling he's clearly pointed the thread into a nice political conversation which, as I'm sure you know, is going to end up with name calling (as it has on here for seemingly years).

I guess I just think of moderators as moderate who try to keep the peace rather than throwing in their own views that are meant to incite confrontation. You can't seriously think that saying this:

"You don't need to hold the majority view to have the biggest ratings on a news cable channel.
What you need is rabid people who tune it in because it reinforces their own extreme views.
And that's enough extreme politics here."

Isn't going to piss some people off can you?

But any contention is going to piss some people off-- be it declaring Mac users blind fan boys, or thinking that MS is clueless, or figuring that Apple leaving the CoC is pointless posturing predicated on a myth.

The point is that you can disagree without calling people names.
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But any contention is going to piss some people off-- be it declaring Mac users blind fan boys, or thinking that MS is clueless, or figuring that Apple leaving the CoC is pointless posturing predicated on a myth.

The point is that you can disagree without calling people names.

Is that seriously what this is about? Name calling? You've been around here long enough to know that once a thread starts down a political path it's going to result in insults left and right (ha! pun intended) and name calling left and right. Mel did plenty of insulting of other peoples intelligence although it might not be considered your typical "name calling." I.E. Implying someone is stupid isn't the same as saying someone is a douchebag but end effect is essentially the same - to put down the other person and put them on the defensive. Mel did it a number of times so I find it rather hypocritical that now the thread he helped get out of control is one that he feels he should shut down.

As I said, maybe I just expect too much when I see the phrase "global moderator" in the tag. Despite all their insanity and endless pages of crap the MR moderators aren't nearly as opinionated which has got to be one of the only times they did something better than AI (other than the live feeds from the apple events).
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Ok guys, if this continuous invective continues, I'm going to shut the thread down.

I can obviously respond in a civil manner when I am talked to in a nice, intelligent way. Now when someone as despicable as the idiot above starts talking AT me as if I were a two year old, I respond par for the course. He is the typical idiot who can't refute the message so he starts insulting the messenger and trying to belittle people and I won't stand for his bullshit so fuck him if he can't take the heat when he is the one who started the fight.
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... He is the typical idiot who can't refute the message so he starts insulting the messenger and trying to belittle people and I won't stand for his bullshit so fuck him if he can't take the heat when he is the one who started the fight.


Comedy gold.
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Comedy gold.

Prove it.
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Um........ LOL?
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Um........ LOL?

Um...dumbass?
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How's that go again?

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He is the typical idiot who can't refute the message so he starts insulting the messenger...
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How's that go again?

What message???
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