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post #161 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:09pm
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Originally Posted by iPedro View Post

So is this a Microsoft Store or a Windows Store?


The logo suggests this is a Windows store, unless Microsoft changed their logo.

Wait till Apple sues them for using a rainbow colored logo.
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post #162 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:13pm
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Originally Posted by cdyates View Post

how does best buy make profits selling and servicing other manufacturers computers?

Geek sqaud charging more to fix a computer than that brand new $300 POS emachines over there? $30 gold plated USB cables and $20 ethernet cables?
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post #163 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:16pm
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

Are you really that brainwashe to believe that PC users really have that much of an issue with viruses these days? So many users are running 64bit systems. I haven't had a virus in about 7 years. Your like a 1980 Apple Ad.

You haven't seen the line of sheep at a Geek Squad desk, have you?
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post #164 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:17pm
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The Guru bars should do good business.

Heh.

These cowboys at Redmond are absolutely shameless. *Shakes head.

Seriously? *Eyes bulge.

They have no shame at...all.

When you think about Nokia taking Apple to court...

...and Apple taking Psystar to court...

..and the numerous other 'broad' patent infringements...

...could M$ be sued by Apple for gross copying? Look and feel and derivative? Couldn't Apple claim to have 'broadly' created the 21st Century 'Computer' Store?

*Tongue in cheek.

Seriously, M$ are going to get one helluva beating...they want to compare their stuff that 'just works' with Apple's Kool head on?

Er...good luck, M$. Yer going to catapult Apple's marketshare to vertical growth in phones, Mp3 players, Macs...iPod socks...

What can you say? Superman had Bizarro I guess...

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post #165 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:18pm
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

Would you rather they have shirtless guys greeting you at the door like Abercrombie 2009?

Well, they've copied everything else they imagine might work, no?

Seriously, you've come up with the one way I might be lured into an MS store. I don't think shirtless alone will do it, though... Maybe low lights, driving music, an open bar, and an hourly wet boxer briefs contest?
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post #166 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:21pm
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

Every walk into an Apple store and noticed there is Anti virus software on the shelf? I have, doesn't mean you actually need it.

I guess if you are using something like Limwire downloading porn then your changes of getting a virus are high. So stop doing it.

Few months ago a virus spread through our university network. The only thing you needed to do to get infected was to open Internet Explorer. I guess you know what ARP poisoning is?! One infected computer connected to the network became a bot and started injecting every website people visited with a script that download a trojan to the users PC, which turns it into another bot and so on. PC users without a good antivirus did not know that they were infected. Mac users... no problems.
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post #167 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:24pm
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Originally Posted by red_skittles View Post

I'm confused. At the top of the page I read that this site is called AppleInsider yet the title of this article is "Exclusive photos, video from Microsoft Store grand opening." Something isn't adding up.

Think of it this way.

If the site was instead called "Luftwaffe Insider" they would probably publish a lot of stories on Spitfires wouldn't they?

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post #168 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:25pm
The comments in the Microsoft Store Video were not yery complimentary.

Here's a good response:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=rqRWYHGxpPc
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post #169 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:32pm
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

You mean the way the new MacBooks look exactly like the MSI Wind? ...

I don't think they look exactly alike at all, you are stretching the truth here.

On the other hand, thanks for the link cause it was worth it just for this picture.


The doggie makes me want to buy the computer even though I know it's a POS.

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post #170 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:32pm
That's all they know to do, COPY APPLE

What a bunch of sad people.....
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post #171 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:33pm
Wet bikini contest in the store. That might do it.

'Car wash' style.

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post #172 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:36pm
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

I don't think they look exactly alike at all, you are stretching the truth here.

On the other hand, thanks for the link cause it was worth it just for this picture.


The doggie makes me want to buy the computer even though I know it's a POS.

Considering that Wind came out long after the white polycarb MB first hit, the argument should be that MSI took cues from Apple, not the other way around.

The Wind has full driver support for installing OSx86. Its still a crappy netbook, but compared to the others in its class, its not that bad. Much better than the AcerAspire One with left and right mouse buttons on the left and right sides of the trackpad, not left and right side of the bottom of the trackpad. That was a dumb idea that tok them way to long to correct.
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post #173 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:37pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

I wonder how locked the PCs being demoed in the store will be locked down and if they will have internet access like in Apple stores. I dont think there is any locking to the Macs in the Apple Stores, but think that Win7 will have to be locked down hard in order to prevent people from loading viruses.

I am pretty sure that Apple stores have a very short black list of sites (porn etc.).

They threatened to add Facebook to it last year, but I don't think they did.

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post #174 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:39pm
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Originally Posted by Mastersonics View Post

That's all they know to do, COPY APPLE

What a bunch of sad people.....

if you look at the youtube comments, someone pointed out the m$ store looks like the bullring, UK apple store
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post #175 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:41pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Considering that Wind came out long after the white polycarb MB first hit, the argument should be that MSI took cues from Apple, not the other way around.

The Wind has full driver support for installing OSx86. It’s still a crappy netbook, but compared to the others in its class, it’s not that bad. Much better than the AcerAspire One with left and right mouse buttons on the left and right sides of the trackpad, not left and right side of the bottom of the trackpad. That was a dumb idea that tok them way to long to correct.

Well probably "POS" is a bit of an overstatement given it's popularity, but I didn't like it at all. Too cramped, too slow, and a lot of other things too insignificant to mention here.

Even though when you first see one you think how small and sexy the netbooks are, I've yet to pick one up that doesn't make me want to throw it at the wall inside of about ten or fifteen minutes even with OS-X installed.

If it has windows, then it's more like two minutes.

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post #176 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

You're blending everything together. Microsoft would care less if Apple brought Dell. What does that have to do with anything. Also is MS bottom feeling when many Apple users install Windows via bootcamp? Are they also bottom feeding when 85% of all housholds with Apple computers also have Windows systems? Apple will never pass MS on anything. Even SJ had to break down and admit that a long time ago.

A long time ago, SJ had to admit that it was either make a deal with MS and play nice or go out of business. On that, we can agree.

What that says about the concept of "never" is debatable.

Never is a long time, extreme.

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post #177 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:46pm
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Originally Posted by Leonard View Post

Wait till Apple sues them for using a rainbow colored logo.

Apple dispensed with the romper-roomish rainbow colors many years ago. Where have YOU been?

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post #178 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:46pm
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Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post

I'm more intrigued by the insanely huge American flags in one of the shots. Is MS on some sort of super jingoistic GO-USA! charge or something? How odd.

Sadly, it's like that everywhere in the US.

They apparently don't realise the irony. The only other country ever to worship their flag so much was Nazi Germany.

While it's a bit startling to us non-Americans, it's really standard procedure down there. In New York there are flags on the sides of buildings many stories high. Scary at best, but mostly just distasteful.

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post #179 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:48pm
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Microsoft debuted its first retail store in Scottsdale, Ariz., Thursday to coincide with the launch of Windows 7, and AppleInsider has exclusive photos, video and details from the grand opening event.

Pretty much like everything Microsoft does, just copy what Apple does. A truly innovative company.

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post #180 of 294
10/22/09 at 2:49pm
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A long time ago, SJ had to admit that it was either make a deal with MS and play nice or go out of business. On that, we can agree ...

you may agree with this but if you look into it you will find it's really just a myth.

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post #181 of 294
10/22/09 at 3:03pm
I know quite a bit about this project so let me give you some insider info.

Designed by the architects who did the Apple stores (yes, MS wanted it to look like Apple). Well, at least, David Porter head of retail at MS wanted it to look like Apple. He directed the look to head that way even when the architects didn't want it to go there. Believe me, slap an apple logo on it and you'll confuse most consumers. The only difference is the wall of video screens (close to 200) that wraps the store. The only place where these screens will really look cool is the Xbox area that will utilize a grid of 4 screens per game. (assuming it all works)

MS wants this to make money selling high end stuff that utilizes windows and the phone OS, Xbox and possibly Zune. Focused on service and customization. In reality, this is just a brand store like Nike Town. Unlike Apple, which is more than a brand store, it actually makes a very good profit while promoting the brand.

Get ready for the next phase of the stores that will have Emily (wireless gaming/computing like the wii but better). If you ask me, they should just do Xbox/gaming stores.
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post #182 of 294
10/22/09 at 3:06pm
Something is wrong here. By my calculation 89% of the visitors should either be dressed as Trojans, suffering from worms or really sick with a contagious virus. There are no hijackers, nobody dressed in all blue clothes with white lettering and no frozen people with porn ads all over them.

They're not fooling me, if this was a real Microsoft store opening, most visitors would get infected the moment they walked in the door. The exception, a few guys trying to look normal while wearing 150 lb condoms and some smiley dudes eating apples.
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post #183 of 294
10/22/09 at 3:14pm
What are they buying, can't see anything.

Microsoft.... no hardware.... well a Zune

Software.... Its Windows 7...... and ......



Better get myself off to the Apple Store....... Simple
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post #184 of 294
10/22/09 at 3:15pm
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

you may agree with this but if you look into it you will find it's really just a myth.

I have MORE than looked into this. I LIVED it.

I do agree that there IS a myth about it. The investment that MS made was immaterial. That part is the myth.

However, Microsoft's accompanying promise to resume development of MS Office for the Mac OS really saved Apple's bacon. That is no myth.

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post #185 of 294
10/22/09 at 3:17pm
M$ has a reputation as a copier and not an innovator. I can see if they want to compete with Apple's stores but do they have to completely imitate them? Did Apple imitate the Gateway Store when they decided to create retail stores? M$ could have created something newer and edgier than Apple, something distinctive. Instead, Ballmer probably went, get me Apple Stores!! I want Apple Stores! It looks like they copied the furniture, the floor, the walls, the tables, the layout, even the Geniuses!
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post #186 of 294
10/22/09 at 3:27pm
Michelle Armstrong, a 20-year-old in pajama pants who slept outside the Scottsdale Fashion Square mall to be among the first in the store, said she was a bit disappointed in the bags, which included a $25 gift certificate, chapstick, mints, a bottle of water and tickets to an Ashley Tisdale concert at the store later in the day.



http://www.azcentral.com/business/co...microsoft.html
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post #187 of 294
10/22/09 at 3:32pm
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

Sadly, it's like that everywhere in the US.

They apparently don't realise the irony. The only other country ever to worship their flag so much was Nazi Germany.

While it's a bit startling to us non-Americans, it's really standard procedure down there. In New York there are flags on the sides of buildings many stories high. Scary at best, but mostly just distasteful.


Shame on people for loving their country.

I put a flag out at my house quite often.

Sue me.
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post #188 of 294
10/22/09 at 3:36pm
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Its the elite attitude that makes people think every Apple user is an a$$hole. There was a good article on this a while back about Apples biggest problem is not Apple but its users.

I know this will piss people off but fair amount of us know its true.

I do have to agree with you there as some of the comments that the hardcore fans have made make me cringe. I especially noticed it when some people were complaining that Apple kept the white macbook and the rumor that they might drop the price was horrifying to them. The attitude was that if you couldn't afford the then current price then you didn't need to be using a mac. Some people can't stand Apple evolving or making products beyond what a creative artist type user would want or even worse that if you want a feature that Apple does not offer then you are an idiot and should switch to Windows. That attitude is an epic fail and propagates the impression all mac users are snobs.
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post #189 of 294
10/22/09 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by ZeroKelvin View Post

I wonder how many of the people at the grand-opening of the MS store were paid actors...

You mean like how Apple gave away free laptops to celebrities when they opened the Midtown store?
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post #190 of 294
10/22/09 at 3:39pm
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You mean like how Apple gave away free laptops to celebrities when they opened the Midtown store?


Celebs get PAID.

They don't do shit for free.
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post #191 of 294
10/22/09 at 3:43pm
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

Think of it this way.

If the site was instead called "Luftwaffe Insider" they would probably publish a lot of stories on Spitfires wouldn't they?

Good point.
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post #192 of 294
10/22/09 at 3:54pm

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post #193 of 294
10/22/09 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by thompr View Post

I agree with this sentiment. I have no problem with Microsoft emulating the formula that has made Apple one of the most successful retailers on the planet (and number one by revenue per square foot metric). If they are bound and determined to enter the retail experience at all, they would be foolish not to learn from the best.

So rather than bitch, I am here to showcase my skills of prognostication: the MS stores will do well for a time, until the novelty wears off, and then they will be a loss leader. I will come back a year from now and say "I told you so."

Thompson

I actually think extremeskater is even further off course than you suggest. In one post, he discusses the benefit of competition and then almost immediately gives a post suggesting that there is no issue with companies copying, to which you replied.

I, in fact, love MS if for no other reason than it gives a competitor a chance to show alternatives. I am allowed to vote by where I spend my money. However, the system breaks for the consumer when the larger corporation is simply replicating over innovating and leaning on enormous capital reserves to defeat competition.
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post #194 of 294
10/22/09 at 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

So Apple's #1 rating in customer satisfaction, year after year, just happened by sheer accident. And consumers handing Apple record quarter after record quarter in Mac sales don't actually exist.



There's a reason MS lost the Premium market and is constantly embarrassed by Apple in nearly every area in which it competes. And that's no accident.

Except that MS never lost premium market - because they never had one. Microsoft is doing OS, not computers.

PC hardware manufacturers, well, they might have lost premium market. They definitely did loose retail part of the premium market; how does retail part stands against other purchase options, I have failed to find any relevant info, However, since business does not purchase retail, real picture is likely to be a bit different.
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post #195 of 294
10/22/09 at 4:24pm
i wonder if this might backfire on ms (like most things they do outside of their reach). after all apple was suffering from lack of exposure when they started opening their stores, and has grown considerably with the advantage of up close comparison - same mall anyway. ms does not suffer from anonymity and if apple succeeds when side-by-side the obviously ms loses.

btw if the picture is from the front then those american flags are hung backwards.
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post #196 of 294
10/22/09 at 4:41pm
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

MS doesn't have to copy Apple. Remember MS is the one that owns 90% of the market. Just because a company decides to take an new direction doesn't mean they are always copying Apple, or scared of Apple. Apple isn't all that scary.

Heh, nice one. But don't forget this is the site with huge concentration of Apple Extremists, so logic doesn't always appl(e)y.

Otherwise, it would be very hard to explain how come, when MS comes with their announcement before Apple, they do that because they are scared; but when Apple does the same, they are "stealing thunder"..?
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post #197 of 294
10/22/09 at 4:52pm
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Originally Posted by nikon133 View Post

Except that MS never lost premium market - because they never had one. Microsoft is doing OS, not computers.

PC hardware manufacturers, well, they might have lost premium market. They definitely did loose retail part of the premium market; how does retail part stands against other purchase options, I have failed to find any relevant info, However, since business does not purchase retail, real picture is likely to be a bit different.

Or more like they never had it (but they wanted it), in that Vista introduced us to Ultimate, and all the poor suckers who went for the "premium" OS didn't get much in the way of extras or anything of value save for bitlocker+media center.

They want that market, but they haven't shown any compelling reason to buy Ultimate.
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post #198 of 294
10/22/09 at 5:02pm
Windows X?
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post #199 of 294
10/22/09 at 5:06pm
Dear Microsoft,

Until you can come up with your own work and stop copying your classmates, you must go sit in the corner and be still.

You really should be ashamed of yourself!

Pathetic.
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post #200 of 294
10/22/09 at 5:07pm
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Originally Posted by iPedro View Post

So is this a Microsoft Store or a Windows Store?



The logo suggests this is a Windows store, unless Microsoft changed their logo.

Apparently that is Microsoft Retail Logo.

I guess they want to differentiate their retail, consumer division from business oriented servers etc. division(s). Something like Toyota differentiates Lexus, or Nissan does with Infinity.

For many average consumers, MS is related to serious/complicated/not-fun-at-all! stuff like servers, networks, volume licensing, CALs... ek. So I can see plenty of reasons to separate retail from business as much as possible, if they want to persuade average user that this other Microsoft is all about fun, games, music, multimedia... you name it.
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