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Typical Teckstud post. FAILS TO COMPREHEND WHAT HE READS. www.rif.org

1) Stated that comparing OS marketshare is silly, that Apple is a PC vendor first and foremost

2) Stated that Apple chooses not to license OS, not that it’s not capable of it.

3) Compared the MS and Apple’s market

caps, not their OS marketshare. One day, I do hope you get to best me just so you don’t have to cry yourself to sleep one night. Now it’s time for you to ba-ba-ba-backtrack.

Actually, I was just checking to see if you've continued reading my posts as opposed to practicising what you preach and have me on your ignore list.
So now you can see that actually I have bested you!

May I suggest for you:
http://www.fool.com/school.htm

just ignore it, it's a troll...
always talks about flash player issues, glare issues, and random links...
really tired of it

Well that is so nice...you don't ever have to come here and you don't ever have to buy anything that is from distasteful America!! But if you are here then why would you want to live here so just leave...... after all we are such a distasteful America!!!!
Sorry i am as patriotic as they come! I have family that has DIED defending this country!!
If you don't like it leave! Don't buy American products like Apple or Microsoft.......They are so distasteful to you!
Geekdad

Yeah that is pretty bad. However no quite as bad as being turned down by Verizon when you want to go into business with them.

microsoft has a new cloud computer center, with 40 something employees, three of which are microsoft employees. you can imagine who the rest of their employees are. that's how much they love america. i don't remember where the link is, you can google it.

do you think the flags are for the love of the us? come on don't be so naive...

He is on my ignore list, but as you know the post is just minimized, not completely removed. Ive opened his before by accident, but this last time was intentional. Its slow right now so I had a minute free slap him around a bit. I know I shouldnt be picking on the mental challenged but he makes it so easy.

Where does he think Cupertino is located? China?


Oh NO !!!! Apple has a US flag!!!!!

No you're just tired- time to light you Kool pipe again. I post many a positive thing regarding Apple- you simply edit those out. Unfortunately the truth sometimes hurts.

Its questionable if Apple ever seriously courted them since Verizon would require a wonky CDMA phone. There is reason to believe it was done to scare AT&T into agreeing to Apples demands. Its a viable tactic.

When you consider what Apple got out of the AT&T deal its surprising that anyone agreed to their terms with no experience in the cell phone market. I recall more than few cellular vendors, other tech vendors and pundits stating how Apple was destined to fail in this entrenched, well developed market.

I don't care...I don't care how many different flags they had! So now how many different countries does Apple sell their products to? So now Microsoft should be condemned for their hiring practices?? Dude wake up! Do you know how many Technology jobs are going Offshore?

BUT when you compare America to Nazi Germany most Americans are going to get mad!
That was uncalled for!!!

The correct phrase is mentally challenged. Get with the program.
Are you peeking in and out behind your ignore list again???:

Now he sees me, now he doesn't. You're frightening me - stop!!!!

when did i compare america to nazi germany?

I fully understand Apple is a hardware company the problem is Apple doesn't understand and that seeing most of their attack ads are pointed at MS which is a software company. Shouldn't they get geared towards HP or Dell?

Apple can't get more market share. Decades have proven that fact time and time again. In fact it was here in AI that stated 85% of all Apple users also have Windows system. The fact remains this is a Windows world and people need Windows to get real work done.

A few good quarters for Apple isnt exactly a trend. All it takes is one good health scare for SJ and your stock will be down to 83 dollars a share again. Apple stock has rebounded but that doesn't mean it can't go back down. I believe when it was that level before people were saying it was going to 250 and then 500. Instead it went to the mid 80's. I wouldn't go counting your Apples just yet.

No its the fact that Verizon is big enough where they told Apple to take their demands and stick them up their a$$. ATT caved because they wanted to try and catch Verizon. Which of course hasn't worked.

So ATT and the iPhone are in the right place, second behind Verizon and RIM, where they will stay.

You're wasting your time with that one. He thinks he's SJ's right ear.

Gazoobee did. Give credit where credit is due.

I didn't say you did. It was the post I was quoting from:

Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post
Sadly, it's like that everywhere in the US.

They apparently don't realise the irony. The only other country ever to worship their flag so much was Nazi Germany.

While it's a bit startling to us non-Americans, it's really standard procedure down there. In New York there are flags on the sides of buildings many stories high. Scary at best, but mostly just distasteful."
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I think you just got caught in the middle........

it's not a shock really. XP is way dated and Vista was crap. of course folks want to go for Win 7 when all the major reviewers are confirming it is a major improvement. and I for one am happy about that, cause winning isn't as much fun when the other side totally blows (it's too easy)


nah, put them at the Guru bar, makes the bad news easier to deal with.


actually they can. they choose not to.



i dedicate this video to you


Apple has probably known for a while what Microsoft was intending to do. That they didn't act implies that they aren't worried about the copying.


really? then why did the stock price go up $15-20 in 3 days with the products being released via a website update and a few videos, known of which show even a glimpse of Jobs.

could it be because of the products.


AppleCare rarely covers the cost of what you get in repairs, just like the $99 for one to one doesn't cover the cost of all the time you can be there. especially now that they dropped the once a week rule. i mean even if those kids are getting minimum wage, that's like $9 here in Cali. so your membership is 11 hours of one persons time.

so where's the rest of the money coming from. it's that Apple Tax that some folks talk about. it pays for that staff time, for the cost of those parts, the overnight shipping two ways when it has to go to a service center, etc.


that those two titles are there is just as much because the makers paid Apple for the space. same in all other retailers.



they don't have to do any of that. almost every area has a no loitering rule and they can legally use that to boot out anyone hanging around for ages. not to mention that they are a private business and can refuse service to anyone they wish. between that, it doesn't matter what someone is doing on the computer.


this is actually the one thing they have done that Apple will hopefully copy in some form. Cause those screens could actually be more 'green' than the plastic banners that Apple puts up all the time (and changes at least once a quarter).

moving to some kind of embedded screen similar to what's up behind the genius bars would actually let them change that stuff more often and eliminate more trash.

although I thought I heard something about them using biodegrading plastic now so that's better


i agree about the snobby feeling at times. my other issue is the belief that what the small group here wants is what Apple MUST do or they are stupid. Apple isn't going to follow the crowd or give into any one group unless it fits what they want. period. but some folks just won't get over that issue.


the best part is that yet again CP+B is the ad house. and guess what they use for all their work. yep. Macs.

Yeah I love when they call themselves shareholders. Makes it sound like they get to sit next to SJ at dinner.

No, Apple has 90% of retail computers over $1000. Which excludes pretty much whole business, government/education/army/... buyers. I'm not even sure if on-line purchases are included in that retail study..?

Your posts are funny and yes, Charli, tuna does taste best, BUT-

guess what the Apple stores use to express checkout with their handhelds. yep. WINDOWS.

And what's your point?
Bottom line-What's Apple's total market share?

Brand recognition is exactly what they are looking for. Accidentally it is very important factor in reaching for consumers with MP3 players, phones, video games... just to mention a few. Which is, accidentally, what MS has been pushing recently with ZuneHD, WinMo6.5 (and 7 whenever released), upcoming tablet...

With Windows 7 and Server 2008R2 families released for desktop/computer market, I feel MS will - for a while at least - shift it's focus from computers. I'd expect their advertising campaign will reflect that as well - no way 300M are spent on those handful of laptop-hunter commercials.

Or Sony or Acer or Asus or Gateway or Lenovo or Alien. There are just too many possibilities. There ads first started as simply being PC v Mac, despite Macs being PCs. Since VIsta was a blunder they used that opportunity to kick MS while they were down. Its business, not the playground They all use Windows so if you put fear of Windows being bad into the customers mind then no non-Mac PC looks viable.

On top of that, there is also the very common yet silly attempt to directly compare Apples OS sales which only come on Apples HW to all of MS OS sales, so why not make the ad as useful as possible. MS laptop buyer ads are all focused on the HW. Each company is trying to make the ads work, doesnt mean that a more intelligent comparison is valid from those ads. Gotta love marketing.


Sure they can. All they have to do is license their OS. MS had to license XP on the cheap when Vista wouldnt run on netbooks and Linux was getting installed as the de facto at first. MS would shit bricks if Apple actually licensed PC OS X.


The stock went down with the recession and it went back up with every other company even while Jobs was out of the picture for 6 months. Check out their stock history overlaid with the NASDAQ.

Apple has had more than A FEW quarters of profit. Check out there history. iPods, Macs, iPhones are all pushing beyond the industry average. The only losing unit sales YoYis the iPod, but that is due to the phones doubling as PMPs. Other PMPs are losing out too so Apples PMP marketshare is still holding strong.



I stated that Apple may have used Verizon to curry favour with AT&T. You are now confirming that it was good tactic for Apple to do so, assuming it was the case? I guess having the iPhone and the radical change in the cellphone market is better than not having it at all.

Are you sure they will stay there? Weve already seen some changes happen. Nokia is losing a lot of ground quickly and a few years ago no one thought they could falter. The iPhone is far from being as good as business as Blackberries, but it does have many other pluses that make it attractive to users and businesses, especially the lower per user fee. If Apple can tie up some of the business use shortcomings it may beat out the Blackberry in some markets, its certainly beating out the Storm, which was a direct response to the iPhones arrival.

See above- I told you. Types a lot, says nothing.
Ask him why he never mentions the AppleTV.

Ummm... yeah what he said.

Apple has also reported that it takes in ⅓ of every dollar in PC sales in the US. Since they can easily add up what all the other make in a quarter, that number would include all sales expect DIY PCs. That seems to coincide with the 91% of all PC sales in the US over $1000 theyve also reported.

NO - he says retail and goes on and on. He still hasn't responded to my question to clarify.

I believe Apple wanted to deal with all repairs and tech support for the phone, and Verizon didn't want that. They also didn't want to give a cut of the money from the plan, but that is speculation.

Bottom line is, the way Verizon supports phones is utter shit. I've experienced first hand their stupid agents support the Treo700w and how incompetent they are. When you see that, it is clear why Apple didn't want Verizon's reputation for support tarnishing their image.

Unless you enjoy the solution to every issue being a "hard reset".

Btw, most people, on the loonatic fringe, left and right, don't hesitate to invoke the Nazi's. We hit Godwin's law here awhile ago.

Of course, there is this article as to why the left says Bush was a Nazi/Fascist, and then of course Obama is obviously a Nazi because both groups wanted nationalized health care .

I love when you provided unsupported opinions and back track on your outburst to people, e.g.

1. Premium market, your comments there is no premium market and then I provided links to show that many industry reviewers discuss premium market and its not Apple's or their Fanboys making this sector up. You change your tune.

2. Verizon would have the same issues has AT&T with concern to the iPhone, this is my opinion and I can not prove it, but I discussed it with many of my IT guys and their felt the same way. No one expected iphone to change the way people surf the internet so much.

Can you show me proof of Verizon turning down Apple or this just another one of your opinions.

At least when you are providing your opinions, provide some evidence to support your comments and if other people provide evidence, then you should provide counter evidence. But ranting your opinions with a little supporting data, I just do not believe what you are saying.

Apple market capitalization http://www.nypost.com/p/news/busines...c1MI0Aohc8tWpM

MS market capitalization: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=MSFT

MS may have 90% of the market share in OS, but investors are not confident of its earning power and thats something that needs to change. I think MS needs Bill Gates, like Apple requires SJ. The Bald head eagle in charge is just screwing up the company. I can't show proof, but there are enough links to show his half-thought dumb comments about other competitors, who later become successful.

Tell that to pros who purchase units like Lenovo W... configured to the max, it gets close to US$6,000. And that is without extra software or extended warranty. But you don't purchase that in retail.

You have way too much time on your hands. We need to get you either an xbox 360 or a computer that can play more then just WOW.

Did someone actually get that amped up over this to use the word Nazi? Thats insane.

extremeskater = thurott or is cut from the same mold

I pefer iMac 27" with bootcamp, so I have the best of all worlds

Every company has a not so proud product and Apple TV is one for Apple. But come were do we start with MS.
Vista

The AppleTV has not been great, but its no worse than any other dedicated media appliance on the market. It looks like things have changed enough that Apple may actually know how to make the next iteration a success. They certainly cant drop it altogether without losing the living room. The only other option is to work out deals to get the AppleTV OS on other companies, but that doesnt seem likely.

The previous poster absolutely schools you with a thoughtful answer, and that's the best you can come up with?

Thompson

I'm embarrassed for Microsoft. Its ok to imitate another company a little bit, but it appears that every store detail has been copied from Apple, including the clear glass fronts & even the light colored wood floor. What that tells me is that even the Microsoft retail store designer staff can't innovate or create new & fresh ideas. How pathetic. To copy Apple directly like that on the smallest details, is Microsoft's own confirmation that they are hopeless. If Apple disbanded & all of the employees went away, Microsoft 'innovators' would be trying to decide where to take MS into the future: "now, should we go with multi-colored computers or beige?"