Apple targets 3 new Get a Mac ads at Windows 7 (with videos) - Page 6

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Funny how you completely jumped over my other posts with links. Don't want to talk about that>>>>LOL. Like most Apple users you are very selective. Also you cant read you posted Q2 results not Q1. Get a clue.

Originally Posted by fbrider

MS may not be perfect but osx isnt either. its far from it.
1. snow leopard and its guest account deleting all your data? thats a huge huge huge flaw.
2. i can build/buy a computer for $1200 thats 300X better and faster and cooler looking with a 24 in screen for the same price than a imac
3. i can play games... enough said there
4. nothings ever apples fault, its always users fault. Data deletion? your fault. your battery in your iphone is blowing up? your fault. we're also going to pay you to shut up and if you talk we'll sue you.
5. they might be good for not getting viruses but that will soon change IF mac get a bigger market share.
6. psystar is doing the right thing by taking apple to court. APPLE IS A BIGGER MONOPOLY THEN MS!!!!! everything has to be theirs or they will cry about it. go psystar, take apple down!!

Originally Posted by fbrider

but my palm pre is better then anything the iphone can do.

Originally Posted by fbrider

like i said before, IF macs get bigger there are going to be alot more problems. yea ill give apple the win for the iphone, it has made the number of touch phone jump in number. but my palm pre is better then anything the iphone can do. i back up extremeskater. tell me, what can you do on a mac that you cant do on a pc anymore?

Originally Posted by Quadra 610

Except that the entire industry is following Apple.

And Apple owns the Premium market with Macs.

Everyone and their dog is copying the iPhone, the growth of which has been explosive, and continues unabated.

iPods still #1.

You don't have to lead in sales to be incredibly, ridiculously successful (just own your segment of the market.)

Apparently, sales leads don't have a lot to do with actual success (growth, profit, etc) - witness MS' last two quarters.

Vista outsold OS X by leaps and bounds. But universal licensing, ignorance and inertia will do that. The also-ran box assemblers, HP, Dell, etc., all outsold Apple . . . but it's all about growth and profit - Apple leads the industry in this area, and has been outpacing the industry for years. And of course, being #1 in customer satisfaction year after year after year, feeds into that.

Your trolling is weak. What's even worse is that you're a Windows troll camping an Apple fansite . . . unsuccessfully.

Originally Posted by souliisoul

yet again, you do not read my posts Q1 & Q2 2009 and Q1 2008. As for your posts I think Quadra 610 did that enough justice.

read my words slowly there are 3 links:
1. 2009 Q1
2. 2009Q2
3. 2008 Q1

Originally Posted by fbrider

tell me, what can you do on a mac that you cant do on a pc anymore?

Originally Posted by solipsism

1) Not have to run virus and spyware apps.
2) Do the same task in less steps, thus saving time.
3) Get faster start ups, shutdowns, application start ups for the same HW.
4) Get more battery use of a single charge doing the same tasks due to better PM.

Those a few of the things OS X has over Windows and will continue to have due to disparate business models. That doesn't mean a Mac is for you, and I don't think anyone here expects everyone to have a Mac, but don't slander it just because you can't afford one or don't it it's demographic. One size does not fit all!

Originally Posted by solipsism

1) Not have to run virus and spyware apps.
2) Do the same task in less steps, thus saving time.
3) Get faster start ups, shutdowns, application start ups for the same HW.
4) Get more battery use of a single charge doing the same tasks due to better PM.

Those a few of the things OS X has over Windows and will continue to have due to disparate business models. That doesn't mean a Mac is for you, and I don't think anyone here expects everyone to have a Mac, but don't slander it just because you can't afford one or don't it it's demographic. One size does not fit all!

Originally Posted by fbrider

i work in retail and 90% of all customers are idiots. just because you see an ad on tv doesn't mean its a good product. when people come in to buy a mac, i talk them out of it.

Originally Posted by S8ER01Z

This all reminds me of the Democrat vs Republican thing... when it comes down to it I hate both sides.

Both sides cling to bad information and bs to 'convince' the other side they are wrong.

Wow.

Originally Posted by mstone

Final Cut Studio, iPhone Dev

Originally Posted by extremeskater

I can perform a full boot in 25 secs.

Originally Posted by mstone

Well that says it all. Now we know exactly what you are about, and where you work.

Originally Posted by S8ER01Z

This all reminds me of the Democrat vs Republican thing... when it comes down to it I hate both sides.

Both sides cling to bad information and bs to 'convince' the other side they are wrong.

Wow.

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Yet again selectly I already said that Apple has the lead in ipods. And Apple did have a weak 2009 Q1. Who said anything about 2008. Not sure why you are laughing you look like the idiot not me.

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Should I give you the list of software you cant run on a Mac. Not sure the AI server could hold all that info.

Originally Posted by mstone

Don't care because I don't need much more than I have on a Mac. We have plenty of Windows machines and most of our clients are exclusively Windows. But honestly the only thing I ever need a PC for is to create MS Access files for 1 client. Although our accounting dept. is all Windows and our IT is 90% Linux. So they are all useful, but for the best development environment for Web, Video and Print publishing - Mac has no equal.

Originally Posted by souliisoul

read the link for q1 2009 before you make another comment.

again I posted a link for Q1 2009 and Q2 2009 to show a trend and because you never mentioned the year, i did ask the question, are you talking about 2009, so i posted Q1 2008.

Anyway as you said I must believe you, since YOU said Apple had a weak Q1 2009, without any links to show the facts. Btw: you could have posted a link, since the results are open to public.

Originally Posted by extremeskater

That fine but most fo the world isn't in the print pubishing business. I am not in that business so I really don't have an opinion on what works best.

Originally Posted by red_skittles

yes but will the average consumer know that. most likely not. the point im trying to make is that for every os, regardless of win vs osx, theyre supposed to be better than the last. Don't tell me OSX hasn't been plagued by bugs or else we wouldn't be at 10.5 now would we.

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Why give you links? When I do you just jump over that post because you don't like what I have provided.

Originally Posted by teckstud

Was ever an anti-Vista, anti- XP ad released less than 24 hours after their initial release? NO.
HHmmmmm- Sounds pretty scared to me.

Originally Posted by souliisoul

ok BS..next topic

Originally Posted by S8ER01Z

This all reminds me of the Democrat vs Republican thing... when it comes down to it I hate both sides.

Both sides cling to bad information and bs to 'convince' the other side they are wrong.

Wow.

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Now you have really lost it.

Most Windows users running x64 bit system do not even have virus software. Do you know why? And if you do decide to run an antivirus like NOD32 it runs in the backround with little resources.

Same task less steps? What does that even mean and how can you even back up that statement.

My system can boot faster then anything Apple has on the market. I have a faster cpu, gpu, more ram then anything apple has to offer. I can perform a full boot in 25 secs.

HP and Dell have systems with the same battery usage as Apple if not better.

Originally Posted by mstone

Well even if I was in engineering or medicine which is the business most of my clients are in, I would still have a Mac at home since it is really an excellent machine for almost any casual computer usage as well as creative work. Of course creative industries have always been a stronghold for Apple so you'll find a disproportionate number of creative people on this forum.

Originally Posted by Alfiejr

"Trust Me" s very effective in getting its message across.

it will be interesting to see if Apple can peel away some XP users.

also if Apple launches the new iTab in the next few weeks to grab the spotlight away from Windows.

Originally Posted by solipsism

The difference is that both the Dems and Rep. suck, while OS X and Windows both have their place.



Except that all of those netbooks will be 32-bit. Id wager that a 23-bit version will be the lions share of the cheap notebooks, too, which account for most PCs sold. Either way you cut it, virus are not gone from Windows.



Of course you dont understand. Its faster and easier to to the same task in OS X than it is on Windows. How many steps does it take to get a screenshot on the desktop? Do you still have to go Start » Progams » Accesories » MS Paint » Edit » Paste Save As » file_name » Desktop after hitting the Print Screen button?


But on the SAME HW Mac OS X boots faster, shuts down faster, uses less resources for the same tasks, and can start up apps faster. Its just the way it is. It doesnt make Windows bad, MS has a different business than Apple does. MS has to support legacy code as part of their business model, while Apple is quick to shed its skin, sometimes too quick.


Having an option for a much larger battery pack is not what I stated. You have once again failed to comprehend. For the same HW (which includes the a battery with the same mAh) Windows uses more power to do the same tasks. UNIX-based systems are just inherently more efficient, and with Apple adding synergy by designing the HW, they can make that even more efficient.

On top of that, you have once again jumped from talking about an OS to OS comparison to a shift to PC vendors to support your argument once cornered. I dont think you are a troll, but I do think that you are pushing your preference on people simply for not having your needs. I, like most users, have a notebook and will only use a notebook, yet you think I am an idiot for not building my own box. Its the inability to see that your needs do not necessarily match other peoples needs combined with the radical jumps in your arguments from OS to vendor, etc. that are making some see you as a troll as that is the same short bus riding dance routine we get from our resident troll boy.

Originally Posted by DaHarder

I find it a bit disheartening, especially as the owner of several Macs, that Apple misleadingly makes it seem that 'moving' one's stuff' to a Mac is some simple task, when in fact it is not for many users.

Originally Posted by hiimamac

Is it true iMacs are using pata still?

Originally Posted by DaHarder

Does the new iMac come in any flavor besides Vanilla?

Originally Posted by newbee

Wow! You got a friend? ... Who knew? And your friend bought a MBP ... a smart friend to boot ... what is this world coming to?
bty ...is Sarbucks the PC equivalent to Starbucks, you know, a wannabe Starbucks kind of thing?

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Most users are going to x64 systems. In many cases x64 comes preloaded and most users don't even know the difference. I really can't defend the netbook market. When you pay 300.00 for a computer you cant really ask for much.

As far as booting most of that is because of bios vs EFI. EFI is always going to be faster but for some odd reason we are still using bios. Kind of like Firewire being faster yet even Apple appears to be going the route of USB. Even SJ said everyone is using USB. Better doent always get supported.

To me it doesn't matter if the hardware is the same because I can add three times the hardware at the same cost. However booting is just part of the picture. I can run huge applications at the same time with no issue at all. I care more about how fast my system is once it is up rather then at boot. Fact is most of us dont boot anyways we sleep our systems.

A larger battery pack is not what I am taking about. Makers like Sony and even HP and Dell are using the same 4 or 6 cell battery and getting a good charge time. Sony is using LED screens and you can switch from dedicated video to shared which saves power. This really isnt rocket science.

Here is a good review I saw today about Windows 7. Hits on some good point of Windows but also has an interesting last note about Apple.

http://www.usnews.com/money/business...windows-7.html

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Most users are going to x64 systems. In many cases x64 comes preloaded and most users don't even know the difference. I really can't defend the netbook market. When you pay 300.00 for a computer you cant really ask for much.

As far as booting most of that is because of bios vs EFI. EFI is always going to be faster but for some odd reason we are still using bios. Kind of like Firewire being faster yet even Apple appears to be going the route of USB. Even SJ said everyone is using USB. Better doent always get supported.

To me it doesn't matter if the hardware is the same because I can add three times the hardware at the same cost. However booting is just part of the picture. I can run huge applications at the same time with no issue at all. I care more about how fast my system is once it is up rather then at boot. Fact is most of us dont boot anyways we sleep our systems.

A larger battery pack is not what I am taking about. Makers like Sony and even HP and Dell are using the same 4 or 6 cell battery and getting a good charge time. Sony is using LED screens and you can switch from dedicated video to shared which saves power. This really isnt rocket science.

Originally Posted by solipsism

But you get more OS marketshare because of those cheap machines. The $400 notebooks give you a lot more performance and capacity for only a little more money. Even dual core, though in a Pentium. Cant ask for much on these machines either, but a sale of Windows is a sale of Windows; it will likely jump up a little in marketshare this quarter, despite Apple once again getting record sales. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT BUSINESS MODELS.


Apple has dropped FW400, not FireWire itself. This was a long time coming, just look at the systematic dropping from the iPod and iPhone.

That last line I find ironic since youre been arguing that Windows higher marketshare signifies that it must be better.


You have a desktop tower, why wouldnt you be able to add more/better HW at a lower cost? Apple only has one tower that is designed as a workstation. It really shouldnt be a Mac as its really a consumer geared machine. ALL of Apples other offerings, which regular Mac users by have trade offs for the compactness and portability. You made a comment yesterday about notebook users in Panera are beneath you. Why you think notebook users are scum is beyond me. I dont need or want a desktop. It would limit my productivity severely. ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL!


Same HW, including battery with same mAh gets more run time from Mac OS X than from Windows. Battery life should mean nothing to you since you think notebooks are foolish anyway.

Also, The same machine that differentiates from an Intel to AMD CPU gets more run time from Intel, especially with notebook chips. Check out AnandTech.

Originally Posted by red_skittles

I need confirmation on something. You say you are 67, correct? You also just replied to my post with, " You got a friend? ... Who knew?" correct? You then nitpicked my misspelling of Starbucks, correct? So I have to ask, "You are 67, correct?"

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Well at least we know you are safe with and idiot proof computer. It was made for you. As for viruses you are right they are just something you hear about in Apple ads in reality these day a dangerous virus is far more of a myth then reality. Apple needs to update their 1980 attack plan.