Apple targets 3 new Get a Mac ads at Windows 7 (with videos) - Page 7

Originally Posted by souliisoul

good article and basically the same I have read about Windows 7, unfortunately Microsoft left bad taste in people's mouth and Windows 7 benchmark is being set so much higher now.

One issue I have is, you know that majority of your core customers have not moved to Vista, but still using XP/XP professional, why is the upgrade so tentative?
Maybe MS could not provide a smoother transition, but I not sure if they tried to look at that issue, I maybe wrong.

Originally Posted by newbee

Apple's credibility will depend on how Apple performs, not on how Win7 does ... if Win7 is any kind of improvement at all over Vista, and it's kinda hard not to be, then it will sell well. I'm still willing to bet we will see a lot of switchers coming to Mac, just based on what Mac is. We still have the best word of mouth thing going for us ... and that is very powerful.

Originally Posted by newbee

Your right, when it comes to computing, I'm an idiot ... didn't start until I was in my late 50s. But I was smart enough to get something that was appropriate for someone who doesn't want to "know how it works", just as long as it does work. I also know how to tell the difference between "buying cheap" and "getting value". That's why my choice has been, and always will be a Mac, unless they give me a reason to change my mind.

And as for "Apple's 1980 attack plan" .... If it ain't broke, ... don't fix it.

Originally Posted by extremeskater

I'm fairly certain I didn't make a comment about notebook users. Who on earth doesn't use a notebook some of the time? I work for IBM I use a notebook and doc station all the time.

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Here is a good review I saw today about Windows 7. Hits on some good point of Windows but also has an interesting last note about Apple.

http://www.usnews.com/money/business...windows-7.html

Originally Posted by extremeskater

That doesn't make any sense. The most hardware configurations you have to deal with the more complex your OS has to be, do you get it?

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Windows users have never been as big into upgrading as Apple users. I am not sure why but that has always been the case and I expect it will be that way in the future. People tend to upgrade when they get a new system. However from what I read today Windows 7 preorders have been pretty amazing and that is expected to continue into 2010.

I run Vista x64 on all my windows systems and honestly I'm not in any hurry to move to Windows 7. Being in IT all my life one thing I learned a long time ago is never be one fo the people to rush to the store when something is first released. Vista really didn't because good until SP1. After SP1 I have had no issues. Cant really say that before SP1. However when Leopard came out I really had issues that that also. Wasn't until about version 3 I felt it was in good shape. Yet again my opinion and experience with both operating systems.

I will give Windows 7 about six months and then take another look at it. I am thinking of getting another Macbook pro maybe 13" this time so that will be my first Snow Leopard machine.

Originally Posted by doyourownthing

according to wikipedia

Apple announced the iPhone on January 9, 2007 - iphone
It was first announced on 12 December 2006 - prada phone

Originally Posted by newbee

Please tell me you know the difference between "quantity" and "quality". How do you think M$ OS changes from "Ultimate," (cough cough) to "Home Premium". (Hint) : It dumbs down, i.e. leaves stuff out. Mac OS gives everyone the "full meal deal", each and every time. Now, do you get it?

Originally Posted by souliisoul

So what are the Corporate people (major core customer base for MS) and consumers( bought a computer 1-2 yrs old) going to do?

Originally Posted by souliisoul

So what are the Corporate people (major core customer base for MS) and consumers( bought a computer 1-2 yrs old) going to do?

Originally Posted by newbee

Prada sold how many phones?
Apple sold how many iPhones?

I rest my case.

Originally Posted by JupiterOne

Right now my employer (15,000 employees) has begun testing the thousands of apps the company uses on Windows 7. Then, usually one business unit at a time, they'll deploy a new Windows 7 "image" specific for that business unit. It's possible that the first rollout will happen in about 18 months, but company-wide deployment will most likely take place in about 3 years.

Originally Posted by anonymouse

This note? "Windows 7 may cut into the momentum behind the Mac, but it alone is unlikely to reverse Apple's gains."

Well, that seems to be their bottom line answer as to whether Mac users should abandon Apple, their conclusion being, no, and that they probably won't, the preceding paragraph explaining why not. Perhaps you are clinging to the "may"? I imagine that was just an editorial bone thrown to Microsoft.

I'm not really sure what you hope to accomplish here. Clearly, Apple's ads have hit a raw nerve for you. Clearly, you are enamored with Microsoft. But, if you think your posts are going to convince people not to switch, or to switch back, you're sadly mistaken. People will keep switching, and the switching will continue to be overwhelmingly unidirectional. Apple offers a better product and Microsoft's glory days are over. Very probably, for the foreseeable future, Microsoft will retain it's dominance of the personal computer market, but Apple will continue to retain and grow a very healthy slice of that market. That's the reality these days.

But, the real problem for Microsoft isn't Apple, yet, they allow this to remain a huge distraction for them, probably out of ego and their belief that the personal computer industry belongs to them. Microsoft should just accept that they've lost the image war and that it's been won by Apple, a point obvious to all but the most die-hard Windows fans. Yes, many people and companies will continue to buy Windows PCs because of cost, and because it's perceived as good enough by them. This isn't a problem for Apple, they'll just keep syphoning off the cream and leave the rest to be fought over, which isn't a problem for Microsoft either because they aren't selling computers.

What Microsoft should be focused on right now is how to keep the other company ahead of them in the image war, Google, from eating their lunch, and all this ego driven focus on Apple is just a huge and pointless distraction for them. If they continue on their present course, I give them 10 years at the most until they are completely irrelevant, perhaps still running on cruise control off Windows and Office sales, but maybe not even left with that.

Originally Posted by extremeskater

If they have a computer 1-2 years old then they are most likely running Vista. If their computer is older they will simply work into Windows 7 via upgrading new systems. At IBM we swap workstations and notebooks more often then the average company we cycle out about ever 2 years. Most companies at least based on surveys go about every 5 years. So many of them will just go with Windows 7 when its time for them to buy a new system.

Right now I would say its hard to tell with the OS only being a day old. At the end of 2009 I would suspect we will have a better idea. Reading today the forcast is for 40 million units sold by end of 2009 and 117 million total in 2010. Only time will tell how accurate those numbers are, in any case MS reported some good numbers today.

At least in my opinion its a good sign that both Apple and MS are doing well. No matter what side of the fence someone falls on I will always feel that competition breeds innovation.

Originally Posted by extremeskater


When looking at fortune 500 Microsoft has 60420.0 (revenue in millions) and 17681.0 profit in millions and is ranked 35.

Originally Posted by fbrider

very very few things osx has over windows. and yea a mac isnt for me because im actually smart with my money and im not like the rest of society, i dont go around buying things that the tv tells me to buy. i work in retail and 90% of all customers are idiots. just because you see an ad on tv doesn't mean its a good product. when people come in to buy a mac, i talk them out of it.

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Its not a bottom line answer its a bullet item along with sevreal key points. Even SJ says the peronal computer belongs to MS. SJ said a while ago that MS one that battle a long time ago. That doesn't mean Apple cant do well in that arena and others like the iPod and iPhone.

This isn't a win all or lose all situation. You need to chill out. With the new Apple ads it appears they have far more of an ego problem then MS. Apple takes the approach if you cant look good try to make someone else look bad. Which never works and only look weak.

Originally Posted by fbrider

very very few things osx has over windows. and yea a mac isnt for me because im actually smart with my money and im not like the rest of society, i dont go around buying things that the tv tells me to buy. i work in retail and 90% of all customers are idiots. just because you see an ad on tv doesn't mean its a good product. when people come in to buy a mac, i talk them out of it.

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Should I give you the list of software you cant run on a Mac. Not sure the AI server could hold all that info.

Originally Posted by red_skittles

I need confirmation on something. You say you are 67, correct? You also just replied to my post with, " You got a friend? ... Who knew?" correct? You then nitpicked my misspelling of Starbucks, correct? So I have to ask, "You are 67, correct?"

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Its not a bottom line answer its a bullet item along with sevreal key points. Even SJ says the peronal computer belongs to MS. SJ said a while ago that MS one that battle a long time ago. That doesn't mean Apple cant do well in that arena and others like the iPod and iPhone.

This isn't a win all or lose all situation. You need to chill out. With the new Apple ads it appears they have far more of an ego problem then MS. Apple takes the approach if you cant look good try to make someone else look bad. Which never works and only look weak.

Originally Posted by fbrider

very very few things osx has over windows. and yea a mac isnt for me because im actually smart with my money and im not like the rest of society, i dont go around buying things that the tv tells me to buy. i work in retail and 90% of all customers are idiots. just because you see an ad on tv doesn't mean its a good product. when people come in to buy a mac, i talk them out of it.

Originally Posted by solipsism

I thought it was you who made a disparaging comment about people using there notebooks in Panera but it may have been someone else. If so, my apologises.

Originally Posted by MacTel


Whenever Apple addresses the netbook segment with their own I believe they'll disappoint.

Originally Posted by souliisoul

actually, you missed the part, he used bty instead of btw.

That was lame by Newbee

Originally Posted by teckstud


Totally agree. Apple is really running scared - so obvious. Has any company ever attacked another product this soon - in ad history? I would expect a stock drop today.

Originally Posted by BenRoethig

And if they no longer trust that word of mouth?

Originally Posted by newbee

You keep hinting of all your knowledge, but you don't show us... huh?

Originally Posted by Robodude

Realistically, I don't see Google gaining significant OS market share until the internet becomes standard for all users, and even then, as we've seen in recent weeks the cloud isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Originally Posted by extremeskater

DAMN. New ads by Apple. This is bad it must mean that are SCARED of MS. Oh wait when Apple put out something stupid likd this they are just trying to steal thunder...LOL.

Originally Posted by newbee

Then they will start listening to all the trolls on these boards.

Originally Posted by Rhetoric.assassin

extremeDouche, and TekDUDDouche....

get over your freaking iHATE obsession with anything apple you bunch of sycophantic wannabe PC losers....

some of us actually have been coming to this site for years for actual USEFUL information regarding apple products that you don't get from other forums. When one has to constant get passed your incessant PC inferiority complex spouting your misinformed myopic view on all things windoze, its get old, quick. Not only does it get old quick, it really shows you guys are the ones scared of apple, which is wholly substantiated by their gradual dominance in the phone market, the portable music market, the premium market and any other market they CHOOSE to set their cross-hairs. READ that CAREFULLY....they don't want the bottom-feeder market and they CHOOSE not to compete in markets where the profit margin is so competitive the POS PC makers are fighting like hungry buzzards over a meatless carcass.

really, when you have this much time to spend on a forum, its my personal assessment to wonder how you two trolls or anything you trollies do is even in the slightest germane to the actual topics at hand.

Every new post....you really have no lives...on to the reason I finally started a new ai id..

really, apple is scared... really what universe do you live in.

Apple has over 32 billion in capital in the bank....Apple's stock price today? 203.94 a share....M$? a paltry 28. thanx in part to the upgrade to anything but Vista crowd...everyone was bragging that M$ was up 10%....wow, when your stock is valued out at 24 a share...2.40 a cents isnt really that difficult to conjure up, especially if you are introducing an OS that should have been released 8 years ago...

I would reserve one's projected fears for apple for microsoft, if W7 is not the hit the bloated over-hyped reviews say it is then M$ has a even more serious PR problem and their stock value will quarter yet again this year. We have seen this in the past, which is why if you are not responsible for your own non-revisionist history you are certainly to doomed to repeat it again....

I am really not aware of any two guys that spread more misinformation, misrepresent the reality in which the rest of world exists.....get a life.. go to pc world and go masturbate with the rest of sycophantic Balhmer types.....you guys are worst than Fox News... unbalanced and ill-informed....

Originally Posted by DaHarder


These ads never tell the 'entire truth', and in the case of the ones featured in this blog entry - Seriously Reek of Desperation on Apple's Part.

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Grow up. You actually joined the forum to post this nonsense. Great first post. You said alot of nothing. Newbee now this is what a true troll looks like.

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Grow up. You actually joined the forum to post this nonsense. Great first post. You said alot of nothing. Newbee now this is what a true troll looks like.

Originally Posted by solipsism

Why didnt they start testing it when the RC came out earlier this year. MS had to release it to prove that is wasnt borked like Vista was from the start, even though Vista is just as stable as Win7. I would think many companies would have started doing testing then.

Originally Posted by extremeskater

Grow up. You actually joined the forum to post this nonsense. Great first post. You said alot of nothing. Newbee now this is what a true troll looks like.

Originally Posted by extremeskater

You should never not want to know how something works. How can you make an educated opinion regarding Apple and Microsoft when you don't understand how all this works?

Originally Posted by extremeskater

When you say things like Vista doesn't work and is fully of viruses clearly you are not speaking from experience and only going off what Ads tell you.

Originally Posted by extremeskater

I haven't had a virus in I can't tell you how long and I don't even know when the last time a windows user has had a blue screen. It makes for good tv for people that are ignorant to the truth.