Originally Posted by afishertx
Is it just me, or would this be like Mercedes suing Ford in the early 1900's because thier vehicles also had four wheels, seats, and internal combustion engines?
Not at all. If Nokia has the patent, and more just an 'idea patent', on these technologies then they deserve a license fee. Just like Mercedes would if they had a patent on the actual design of the internal combustion engine.
if this is over an idea and not an exact technology then Apple will likely come out clean. Because the days of getting a patent on an idea are coming to an end.
What confuses me is this notion that a company as big as Apple would just straight up violate a patent. wouldn't they have weeks, if not months, of research into existing patents, including perhaps a few of their own on the tech they use. With detailed analysis on the lack of overlap? Is the Patent Office not verifying the existence/non existence of overlap before they actually grant patents. If Nokia had a patent, wouldn't Apple have gone and worked out a license deal with them and have it on paper.
Originally Posted by geekdad
As to the lawsuit....I think this kind of suit goes on more than we think. Nokia waited until it would be economically feasible for them to sue. It also seems from some articles that they WERE in contact with Apple from the beginning and that the negotiations were not progressing so they decided to sue.
Here is an article from PC World:http://tech.yahoo.com/news/pcworld/2...oftheiphonepie
Actually that article gives no information that they were in contact. Just says again that it has been suggested that perhaps they were.
but what it also mentions is this:
Qualcomm sued Nokia over patent infringement related to GSM, EDGE, CDMA, WCDMA, HSDPA, OFDM, WiMax, and LTE technologies-- many of the same technologies Nokia is now suing Apple for allegedly infringing.
so since it would see that Qualcomm are the true 'owners' of said patents, how do we know that Apple didn't contact and license from them and it's actually Qualcomm that Nokia should be suing for now sharing the income. We don't. but it is at this point possible. Especially since that case wasn't concluded until June 2008 (per the linked article) and Apple would have settled up any licensing well before they even said the word iPhone for the first time.
and in that attached article we have this tidbit
Additionally, Nokia has agreed to assign ownership of a number of patents to Qualcomm, including patents declared as essential to WCDMA, GSM and OFDMA.
so for all we know, on paper Qualcomm are in fact the owners, per this agreement, of all the 'infringed tech'
Originally Posted by teckstud
I'm still waiting for Apple to sue Palm re iTunes . Where's that case? Maybe Apple doesn't have one?
there's nothing to sue about with the itunes issue. it's not a legal violation like Psystar. it's more akin to a sports game where Palm wants to change the rules. Decide that what is a foul isn't a foul if they do it. but the USB-IF isn't a legal authority. All they can do is refuse to license to Palm anymore. and given that Palm flipped them the finger over the dressing down and siding with Apple, that is exactly what might happen. But that would be out of Apple's hands.