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post #41 of 151
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Originally Posted by cprail View Post

I'm not that sure... considering the Apple TV is pretty much useless without nitotv or boxee, I guess these guys will have to work on a new version of their software pretty soon.

Hyperbole much?

Seriously, less than a couple of percent of AppleTV owners use those or are even able to.
post #42 of 151
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

As an AppleTV owner I have to say .. WTF?

I often have to stick my ear right next to it to tell if it's on or not. An AppleTV should not make any noise at all. If yours does, it's either faulty or someones fiddled with it by putting in a noisy crap drive or something.

Agreed... mine is silent.
post #43 of 151
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

As an AppleTV owner I have to say .. WTF?

I often have to stick my ear right next to it to tell if it's on or not. An AppleTV should not make any noise at all. If yours does, it's either faulty or someones fiddled with it by putting in a noisy crap drive or something.

I concur!


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that you teckstud?

No, this is him.
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post #44 of 151
How's the speed?

Any word if this is Snow Leopard or still stuck on Tiger? (A Snow Leopard-based AppleTV 3.0 is more likely to run on the new MacMini I so desperately crave.)
post #45 of 151
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Originally Posted by Cory Bauer View Post

Kudos to Apple for hiding the fact that only 71 movies are available for purchase in HD by continuing to combine their "rent or purchase" figures. Look out, Blu-Ray!

Glad to see they finally added HD YouTube support, though. I don't know what took them so long.

I'm a watch once kind of guy, so purchase of a movie is rediculous to me. I really hate waiting for the new releases to go to rental on ATV.
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post #46 of 151
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Originally Posted by oddjob View Post

Thanks Apple for another boring update!

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that you teckstud?

Good call!
post #47 of 151
Can we please drop the extra dollar charge for HD content. I will never rent it otherwise. "Here, we also offer decent quality for a buck more......." Sheeeesh Come on Apple. \
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post #48 of 151
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Originally Posted by djames42 View Post

I believe you mean 1080, and from a definition standpoint, 720p is considered HD.

While I can tell a difference between the 720p content on my AppleTV and the 1080 content on my HD-DVDs (yeah, I was one of them), it's not significant enough to offset the absolute convenience (and cost savings) of the AppleTV.

Cost savings? What cost savings? There's as many films that cost less on Blu-Ray as there are ones that cost more. And how convenient can Apple TV be when there are only 71 movies available for purchase, you have to wait a month to rent most new releases (who disappear again a few months later), and many films are never released on Apple TV at all?
post #49 of 151
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

As an AppleTV owner I have to say .. WTF?

I often have to stick my ear right next to it to tell if it's on or not. An AppleTV should not make any noise at all. If yours does, it's either faulty or someones fiddled with it by putting in a noisy crap drive or something.

Uhhh, it was me. A WD 250. But the original 40 was pretty noisy too. Which one do you have, the 40 or 160?

Maury
post #50 of 151
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Originally Posted by mclarenf1 View Post

Can we please drop the extra dollar charge for HD content. I will never rent it otherwise.

Really? I think you might be the only one. I always coff up the buck.

Maury
post #51 of 151
I updated my Apple TV, they mistakingly gave me a Sony interface. I actually don't have an Apple TV, but you get the point.
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post #52 of 151
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Originally Posted by Maury Markowitz View Post

Really? I think you might be the only one. I always coff up the buck.

Maury

I am probably am...... I hear ya, but I just wish they gave you the best experience right off the bat.
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post #53 of 151
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Originally Posted by Maury Markowitz View Post

Well I do like this, don't get me wrong... but:

1) still no real sleep mode?! I can't stand the sound of the drive.

2) Come on Apple, make a deal with Elgato for a plug-in tuner! Sheesh, I could chuck half my AV gear if it could just tune the friggin channels! (my TV can, but SLOOOOOWLY)

Maury

I don't hear the drive on my AppleTV but I wish there was a sleep mode to keep the heat down. It just feels like something wrong with that thing when it is always so warm.
post #54 of 151
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Originally Posted by lopsided View Post

argh, now all the cool apple tv hacks will have to be redesigned. that new menu looks like it's going to make adding more options more difficult.

That is why I don't hack. It is a waste of time for somebody like me who has perhaps 30 min/day to watch TV.

Pirating, on the other hand, takes very little time and has a high $$ return.
post #55 of 151
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

that you teckstud?

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Good call!

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No, this is him.

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Who is teckstud?
post #56 of 151
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Originally Posted by djames42 View Post

I believe you mean 1080, and from a definition standpoint, 720p is considered HD.

While I can tell a difference between the 720p content on my AppleTV and the 1080 content on my HD-DVDs (yeah, I was one of them), it's not significant enough to offset the absolute convenience (and cost savings) of the AppleTV.

And it really isn't the 720p that is the problem in as much as the 5 Mbps max bit rate. Apple want to charge $4 to rent that? No thanks.
post #57 of 151
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Originally Posted by pt123 View Post

And it really isn't the 720p that is the problem in as much as the 5 Mbps max bit rate. Apple want to charge $4 to rent that? No thanks.

Guess I'm not the only one...... I think there are more out there that expect better seeing as it's not even full HD. I shoot HD all day long and it aint 720.
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post #58 of 151
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Originally Posted by Cory Bauer View Post

Cost savings? What cost savings? There's as many films that cost less on Blu-Ray as there are ones that cost more. And how convenient can Apple TV be when there are only 71 movies available for purchase, you have to wait a month to rent most new releases (who disappear again a few months later), and many films are never released on Apple TV at all?

I'm actually referring to the cost savings I achieve by using the AppleTV (and iTunes season passes) for my television content. When I bought my HDTV I checked with Comcast and their cost for basic HD service and a HD-capable DVR was about $105/month. I regularly watch about three TV shows and can subscribe via season pass for well under $150/year. I don't have to deal with commercials and can watch shows whenever I want (and unlike the DVR can also watch shows on my iPod or iPhone). I'm saving over $1000/year this way.

I agree (to a point) about movie purchases. Until the prices drop, I'm not going to purchase any movies from iTunes when I can buy better quality versions on DVD. The extra features help, but not enough. I do rent the occasional movie however, especially when they have decent options on the 99¢ menu.
post #59 of 151
Finally, my stuff at the top of menus - my music, my movies, my photos. And search is there now for my music, not just the iTunes store. Entering search terms on my itouch makes a mouse-free life worth living.

With my 320GB hard disk update this month, my ATV does all I want it to do, except for my last wish - an iTunes-style visualizer/screensaver.
post #60 of 151
With hook-up to YouTube and the iTMS adding the Safari browser shouldn't be a big deal for them. The truth is that they don't want people buying these instead of Mac systems. If you just needed to browse the web and do email then the Apple TV would have been a great alternative to a sub-$400 PC. I believe they are really missing an opportunity here.

Does this mean a new AppleTV is not far from appearing early next year? They have that new remote but the current AppleTV doesn't have it bundled.
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Hmm Anyone here installed it yet?

Yep...download took 10 minutes according to the countdown bar. Then another couple minutes to install. No probs noted.
post #62 of 151
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Originally Posted by joeblowjapan View Post

Finally, my stuff at the top of menus - my music, my movies, my photos. And search is there now for my music, not just the iTunes store.

Are you teckstud?
post #63 of 151
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Originally Posted by sandau View Post

I'm a watch once kind of guy, so purchase of a movie is rediculous to me. I really hate waiting for the new releases to go to rental on ATV.

Too right. A significant expansion of the movies available, particularly to rent, would see my ATV getting much more use in our house than any of the new features. Over time it is becoming a nice was of playing our own ripped DVDs, but I have been very disappointed by the rental content.
post #64 of 151
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Originally Posted by djames42 View Post

I'm actually referring to the cost savings I achieve by using the AppleTV (and iTunes season passes) for my television content. When I bought my HDTV I checked with Comcast and their cost for basic HD service and a HD-capable DVR was about $105/month. I regularly watch about three TV shows and can subscribe via season pass for well under $150/year. I don't have to deal with commercials and can watch shows whenever I want (and unlike the DVR can also watch shows on my iPod or iPhone). I'm saving over $1000/year this way.

Ah yes, now that I agree. I think there's a lot of people who really only religiously watch 2-3 shows (that aren't available on the free networks), and for those kinds of people it makes total sense to buy those shows on iTunes versus paying Comcast $75-100 a month for cable.
post #65 of 151
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Originally Posted by mclarenf1 View Post

I am probably am...... I hear ya, but I just wish they gave you the best experience right off the bat.

You're not the only one, I don't cough up the extra buck either. Apple charges way too much for their HD content.
post #66 of 151
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Originally Posted by mrkoolaid View Post

Who is teckstud?

OK, OK... I get it. Moving right along (and with apologies to readers who might be wondering what the heck is going on)....
post #67 of 151
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Originally Posted by Maury Markowitz View Post

UBut the original 40 was pretty noisy too. Which one do you have, the 40 or 160?

Maury

I have the original 40, and it is totally silent.
post #68 of 151
Music keeps playing now until you play a different source. You can browse the movie lists, for example, and still listen to music until you play a movie/trailer.

Audiobooks now show up as well... or were they already there? How soon one forgets.

FWIW, my WD 320 Scorpio Blue is as quiet as the original 40GB it replaced.
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

I have the original 40, and it is totally silent.

160GB, totally quiet. Maybe he needs to re-glue it to the top of the case.
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post #70 of 151
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Originally Posted by joeblowjapan View Post

Music keeps playing now until you play a different source.

That is a nice little tweak.
post #71 of 151
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

160GB, totally quiet. Maybe he needs to re-glue it to the top of the case.

maybe he used wrong kind of oil to fry.
post #72 of 151
Is the a menu for iTunes U now that iTunes has a separate section for it?
post #73 of 151
It's called buy a Mini and run Plex on it. That's all ya need.
post #74 of 151
No new HW!! Well.. I will get one in January anyway
post #75 of 151
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Originally Posted by djames42 View Post

I'm actually referring to the cost savings I achieve by using the AppleTV (and iTunes season passes) for my television content. When I bought my HDTV I checked with Comcast and their cost for basic HD service and a HD-capable DVR was about $105/month. I regularly watch about three TV shows and can subscribe via season pass for well under $150/year. I don't have to deal with commercials and can watch shows whenever I want (and unlike the DVR can also watch shows on my iPod or iPhone). I'm saving over $1000/year this way.

I agree (to a point) about movie purchases. Until the prices drop, I'm not going to purchase any movies from iTunes when I can buy better quality versions on DVD. The extra features help, but not enough. I do rent the occasional movie however, especially when they have decent options on the 99¢ menu.

So, you don't have any cable tv at all? I can see all the savings there if you decide not to get cable tv period, but I guess you never watch the news, live sporting events, awards shows or any random television. Unfortunately I can't breakdown the cost savings like that cause I'm only looking at the few dollar jump between SD package and HD package. Plus, I do watch alot more than just 2-3 shows per season. I have kept trying to take a serious look at ATV but always find a higher pic quality solution through other means. Blu-Ray purchase(love collecting and can't top the quality), netflix(usually get to see quality blu-ray content quicker that what the iTS makes available), just set up ps3mediaserver so I can stream all my .mkv torrent files straight through my ps3, and I have a WD HD Media Player(pic quality of which is far better than anything I've seen on an aTV, and there new live model has ethernet hook ups for streaming).

And no this isn't teckstud BTW what did he end up getting banned for?
post #76 of 151
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Originally Posted by filburt View Post

While 3.0 is much needed with freshly improved UI, I am a bit underwhelmed. I was hoping for at least one major new feature, either USB external disk support, TV subscription, Netflix streaming, Hulu, or Vimeo.

I am just guessing here, but I suspect new remote will be included with updated 3.0 Apple TV packaging.

Right. Apple is going to allow the competition access to their hardware to compete with iTunes. The AppleTV was designed for one thing and that is to display iTunes content on a TV. If you want Netflix you're just gonna have to buy their box.
post #77 of 151
Of course they updated the AppleTV interface: I just sold my AppleTV to buy a mini.

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post #78 of 151
I wasn't expecting Apple to ever update Apple TV again, so I guess this is a nice surprise... Too bad it's still very uninspiring and dull. No new features either, beyond a non-searchable web radio thing.

Why no streaming video Apple? Here in the UK BBC iPlayer is everywhere now, except on Apple TV of course. If Apple had any sense, they'd open Apple TV up to iPhone style App development, and slash the price by 100% too. (at least)

Actually at this point I'd even be glad of HD rentals for all titles, and day and date too. As others have commented, it's infuriating to have to wait months for a 'buy' only title to pop up (and briefly at that) as a rental.
post #79 of 151
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Originally Posted by pt123 View Post

I don't hear the drive on my AppleTV but I wish there was a sleep mode to keep the heat down. It just feels like something wrong with that thing when it is always so warm.

If you select Menu, when you actually see the menu come up you can press and hold the Play button on the remote for 5 seconds (I think) to put it to sleep. Saves power and heat dissipation drops drastically.
post #80 of 151
I have bought in every product category Apple has ever made except the boom box and AppleTV. While waiting for Apple to do the right thing and make a DVR I kept adding to and upgrading my TiVo collection. I am so far up TiVo's butt that anything else is redundant. To date, Apple isn't offering anything more or better than I already have and use. I can look at my iPhoto albums and listen to iTunes though our wireless network with TiVo. I can stream movies through our existing Netflix account on TiVo. I keep waiting for Apple to consolidate all those functions and a DVR with a killer UI that tops what I have. As soon as that happens and one of my Tivos die, I'll replace it with Apple.
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