Originally Posted by Tofino
...adobe has abandoned its mac user base years ago. if you look at the amount of products that adobe lists on their website, you can see that the tools that are critical to graphic designers on the mac are probably just 5 out of 100 or so. i don't know where adobe makes its money, but from their product list it looks like they see more value in supporting windows with cheap crap than in supporting high end mac software.. their flagship products are now windows first and the mac has turned into an afterthought
i think that apple should take a hard look at adobe and consider buying the lot.
I've stated the same here at AI in other threads... multiple times (sorry!)
can you imagine how many graphics people would buy high end mac pros if the mac versions would get preferential treatment at an apple owned adobe? i don't know if they could shut down windows development altogether, but they could certainly prioritize the todo lists of their most talented people.
The graphics industry i.e. publishing, print, media and advertising has supported Apple from the get-go. Without our contribution in the early years (1984-1999), may I dare say that Apple would have folded BEFORE their successful venture into consumer computing. Adobe, Macromedia, and Quark were the software cornerstones for Apple in the day. Now there's only Adobe... and to a lesser degree Quark (did THEY ever screw up!)... and they have most obviously went Windows-first in their development.
the same graphics whores that switched to windows in the 90s would certainly buy new shiny boxes from apple if that's where their tools would run the best.
...I can call and describe myself with the above epitaph, but it sounds sooo condescending reading it from someone else... but it still made me laugh!
i also think that adobe's product line could use some of that minimalist obsession that mr jobs is so famous for.
I've also stated the same. Funny how Adobe originally built their programs using the strict GUI guidelines from Apple, then ported those same popular and productive GUIs to Windows, creating the most sought after and stolen photo editor in the process... and then decided that the "Apple GUI" wasn't good enough. The response to their recent GUI changes have been less than complimentary from both Mac and/or Windows users.
as for flash - if apple owned it, i'm sure it could get optimized for the mac, replaced by Quicktime on the video front, open sourced, or killed outright. I certainly wouldn't miss it.
In all truthfulness, Flash in and of itself is great software. It's how it's used is the problem. Technically it was only meant to be an interface builder for manipulating images, animations, and later video. It's how Macromedia first, and later Adobe implemented video, that problems started to arise. I believe Apple could make the "Flash experience and performance" so much better using their own tech and Open Source tech.
I actually think that Adobe's investors would LOVE Apple to come courting, if not only because Adobe has definitely lost their focus IMO, and because there are a ton of synergies to be exploited. Culling the software overlap alone would save Adobe and Apple millions... maybe billions, in reduced marketing and R&D costs.
Actually, the near future is the time for Apple to make it's move if ever, because with less than double-digit market-share (still... but for how long?), Apple could get through any attempts to block it due to anti-competitive or monopoly issues.
In the end, it would revert to being the same Mac vs.PC sales argument started in 1984: Apple=media and content creation/manipulation... PC=office back-end, organization, and processes... and let's not forget Über-GAMERS! <--How did THAT ever happen? What strange bedfellows those 2 market segments make!
Regardless, Apple and the Mac will still be the platform of choice for professionals in the industry. I can't count the number of photogs, printers, agencies, etc. here in Germany that have switched "Back to Mac" (as I did), or have switched, over the last few years. However, they are ALL gnashing their teeth over the Adobe dilemma though. Mainly because CS could be sooo much better taking it's cues from Apple, and Adobe returning to their roots so-to-speak.
Sorry for the long post... did I say I was a "passionate
" Graphics Whore
? <-- Titles should be capitalized