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Apple's latest 10.6.2 beta packs fixes for VMWare, iMacs, Apple TV

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Apple has released a new beta of the Mac OS X 10.6.2 update with fixes for various performance issues dealing with AirPort, graphics drivers, and Apple TV, among others.

Those familiar with the build, titled 10C540 have said that it contains fixes for AirPort performance issues on the newly released iMacs and also resolves a problem which arose when plugging and unplugging a system to an Apple TV. A VMWare fix is also included, presumably for the newly released Fusion version 3.0.

The new build also fixes reported panic issues with USB, Apple Filing Protocol, and some video cards.

In the 10.6.2 update, Apple plans on fixing and tweaking nearly 150 OS X components.

Some components slated for fixes include: AppleBacklight, Battery Menu, Dictionary, Expose, FileSync, Family Controls, Fonts, Front Row, HFS, Inkwell, iPhoto, MobileMe, OpenCL, Parental Controls, QuickTime, Screen Sharing, Spell Checker, Spotlight, Time Machine, and USB.

Mac OS X 10.6.2 is expected to be released sometime in November and will reportedly be around 480 MB in size.
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Look like they're leaving no stone uncovered here. Taking their time and getting it all right.
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always beta, apple just lets snow leopard run around with dozens of bugs : )

A new beta means the release is pushed at least a week later. I thought that I could have seen it this week!

So it seems I have to install that magic mouse software, reluctantly.
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always beta, apple just let snow leopard run around with dozens of bugs : )

Did someone threaten you with severe consequences if you did not upgrade?

Stop complaining over silly things.
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Did someone threaten you with severe consequences if you did not upgrade?

Stop complaining over silly things.

The fact that I haven't got the upgrade more or less threatens me : )
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I'm stunned! I was told last week that there weren't any problems with SL. Amazing, there ARE actually problems with the OS that could effect how computers operate.
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always beta, apple just lets snow leopard run around with dozens of bugs : )

A new beta means the release is pushed at least a week later. I thought that I could have seen it this week!

So it seems I have to install that magic mouse software, reluctantly.

Umm, in those 5 extra buils they fixed 4 kernel panics and 1 system freeze. I'd say waiting 1 more week is worth have less kernel panics and system freezes.

Adi
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Did someone threaten you with severe consequences if you did not upgrade?

Stop complaining over silly things.

are they still shipping new Mac's with 10.5?
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Hopefully the 'vmware fix' mentioned is related to the VMWare Fusion 3.0 mds/mdworker issue that renders the system almost unresponsive. Now we know who the murderer is.
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Originally Posted by BenRoethig View Post

Look like they're leaving no stone uncovered here. Taking their time and getting it all right.


What exactly does that AppleTV problem mean? IS it that is keeps re-syncing files that have already been synced before? It used to work before,now they have to get it right? What does that mean?
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Mac OS X 10.6.2 is expected to be released sometime in November and will reportedly be around 480 MB in size.

AppleInsider must have some self-esteem issue with size. Why is the size of the update such an issue with them? They think the bigger it is the more it does? No one cares.
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Why would you want 10.5 when you could have the latest and greatest bugs.

Are you talkin Windows 7 again?
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AppleInsider must have some self-esteem issue with size. Why is the size of the update such an issue with them? They think the bigger it is the more it does? No one cares.

I believe the issue with size is users may be concerned with the amount they'll be required to download - some people have download limits.

Also the size does somewhat matter. 10.6.1 was a very minor update, where as .2, like all .2 releases, is a quite hefty "let's get this system in shape" release. .1's are for the glaringly obvious bugs, .2's are "iron out minor creases" releases. You can see this in file size. Apple replaces more pieces of the OS, so it needs to store more replacement pieces in the update. The size is thus directly related to patch count.
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Hopefully the 'vmware fix' mentioned is related to the VMWare Fusion 3.0 mds/mdworker issue that renders the system almost unresponsive. Now we know who the murderer is.

i personally hope that it relates to the fact that USB audio devices are useless under a virtual environment in 10.6 - the further mention of USB, these two fixes being mentioned for the first time mind you, gives me hope that this is the case.

care to elaborate on your mds issue? i don't have any problems...
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Inkwell??? That doesn't get updated that often.

"Tablet" anyone?
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Are you talkin Windows 7 again?


you joke but $%^&#* Microsoft still has an annoying RSS bug in Windows 7/IE 8. i set my RSS feeds to update every 15 minutes and they don't. a lot of times i have to say refresh all and today even that didn't work. it has been there since the early days of Vista. i think i'm finally going to check it out on MS Connect and see if anyone ever filed a bug report.

i'd jump to Firefox 100% but i still like the IE 8 RSS reader better than anything on Firefox.
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I'm stunned! ... Amazing, there ARE actually problems with the OS that could effect how computers operate. ...

You are indeed "stunned" in the 1970's pejorative sense of the term. i.e.- ignorant (of the facts), and quasi-illiterate (in terms your grammatical structure.)
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are they still shipping new Mac's with 10.5?

The news Macs are a couple of weeks old, and ship with 10.6.1. This is a small update of that version. What is the big deal here -- are you saying that a significant proportion of buyers of the two-week old Macs are left with massive bugs until this comes out? Care to provide any evidence for that?
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Haven't had the need for Windows 7 yet. Still running Vista x64 without any problems.

So, do you just hang out in an Apple forum for fun?
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There is no such thing as a bug free OS release. It is possible for a bug to exist for years hidden in an OS until some user (you're not supposed to do that!) inadvertently brings it to the surface. This point release is actually the first to deal with user uncovered bugs in SL. All to the better.

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post #21 of 73
Obscurely in this build Apple refers to an issue with “plugging and unplugging to an Apple TV”, the meaning of which is unknown but could refer to the new 27-inch iMac which allows video input, or maybe to an entirely new AppleTV product? I can´t wait for January! :-)
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post #22 of 73
I'll take Apple's 7-10 dot updates over a year and a half to Micro$ucks one service pack every year and a half.

Any day.
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So, do you just hang out in an Apple forum for fun?

Wasn't that obvious from the moment they arrived?

[yawn]
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I know this might be hard for you to grasp but some of us do use more then just OSX. Just because I use Vista doesn't mean I don't also use OSX.

Yeah, that is very hard to grasp.

I was really hoping for a logical explanation for your persistent passive-aggressiveness, but as justflybob points out just above your post, there is none. You disappoint yet again....
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I know this might be hard for you to grasp but some of us do use more then just OSX. Just because I use Vista doesn't mean I don't also use OSX.

Okay then Question: What OS is best in your opinion?
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The best OS at least in my opinion was Tiger 10.4.11.

Better than Windows 7?
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i personally hope that it relates to the fact that USB audio devices are useless under a virtual environment in 10.6 - the further mention of USB, these two fixes being mentioned for the first time mind you, gives me hope that this is the case.

care to elaborate on your mds issue? i don't have any problems...

Same here. I reported this on the Apple threads and the VMWare threads regarding the Audio issue. We received a response from the VMWare folks indicating it was an issue with SL, not VMWare. I was told it wasn't going to make it into 10.6.2 though. The issue affected all virtual software, including Parallels, and VirtualBox.

If it is the audio fix, this is good news. I can get rid of the extra 10.5 partition I've been running just so I can use my IP Phone in a virtual machine.
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post #28 of 73
I don't know if this is a bug or not or if it's been reported, but in 10.5, you used to be able to right click on a keychain entry and copy the password to the clipboard. In 10.6, I can see the "copy password to clipboard" but it's grayed out. It won't let me do it. Has anybody seen this?
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I'm stunned! I was told last week that there weren't any problems with SL. Amazing, there ARE actually problems with the OS that could effect how computers operate.

There is no such thing as bug free software. I believe the gist of the thread was that for the vast majority of folks, SL has been a solid release with no major bugs.

If you're going to troll, you could at least try to be a little less obvious.
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Will this update fix the persistent freezes in both Safari and Foxfire that seem to be related to Flash content? Oddly, Mail freezes too, so I'm not sure about the Flash, but it's really bothersome. The only thing you can do is force quit. Once it starts, it becomes progressively worse until you have to re-boot and re-build permissions, which knocks the freezes back temporarily, until the cycle starts again. I've re-installed the .1 update, done a deep clean including flushing all caches with Snow Leopard Cleaner, and still it comes back. The only thing I haven't done is a complete archive and install.
Anyone?
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The best OS at least in my opinion was Tiger 10.4.11.

Yeah, I too loved a pair of pants I had in the eighth grade, they were great.
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So, do you just hang out in an Apple forum for fun?

or maybe some sort of hobby?!

PS: I'm also having an AluMB & waiting for 10.6.2 as some things are running not THAT nice \, while my Inspiron1420 is still running Vista with no problems and no need for any W7.
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Hopefully the 'vmware fix' mentioned is related to the VMWare Fusion 3.0 mds/mdworker issue that renders the system almost unresponsive. Now we know who the murderer is.

sooOOooo, that's the issue with my MB getting almost unusable since I've got 3.0 on it...
d@mmit!
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Will this update fix the persistent freezes in both Safari and Foxfire that seem to be related to Flash content? Oddly, Mail freezes too, so I'm not sure about the Flash, but it's really bothersome.

Well it says it fixes a performance issue with the new iMacs to do with wireless. If wireless was the problem all along, that would explain why the site that originally reported the bug couldn't reproduce it: most companies have wired networks.

It would be interesting for someone who is having this issue to temporarily try a wired network and see if it fixes it.
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sooOOooo, that's the issue with my MB getting almost unusable since I've got 3.0 on it...
d@mmit!

mdworker is the program that finds keywords for Spotlight. Maybe try putting your Virtual Machines folder in the Spotlight privacy list.
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I honestly haven't used Windows 7 enough to give a solid opinion. However I do believe that Vista bad rap has been overstated and Window 7 hype has also been a bit overstated.

Maybe because I understand the internals of how an OS works problems most likely do not bother me the same way they would an average user. I don't really see a major advantage going to Windows 7 because Vista has really worked fine for me.

I also always use x64 systems even with XP which seem to give me less problems then 32bit systems (x86).

Panther and Tiger I feel were far better then Leopard and even SL. Cheetah was pretty slow. So far I would have to say SL has been better then Leopard which had alot of issue to start.

With all these bashing each other over Win vs Mac I always ask my self "Who are you" and "What's your skills?" I tend to say I'm bi-lingual. I can do Win and I can do Mac. I find problems with both of them. The thing is that I can solve them. I know a bit about networking, I'm pretty good at computer systems and some how I find it relatively easy to isolate and eliminate problems.

But what if your are not that interested in the computer as such? If you only want it to work? Get connected to wifi all the time, do Word, Excel, Mail and surfing the internet? Maybe your best qualifications are writing books, rehersing theatre or something else which has nothing to do with technology.

I think your opinion will wary quite a lot. When you throw words on each other - could you give me some insight on this backround info?
post #37 of 73
Is this possibly what is holding up the i5/i7 shipping date? I ordered an i7 the day it came out, and the ship date still says 'November'....
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You are indeed "stunned" in the 1970's pejorative sense of the term. i.e.- ignorant (of the facts), and quasi-illiterate (in terms your grammatical structure.)

And when you don't have an intelligent response you resort to the sentence structure?
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There is no such thing as bug free software. I believe the gist of the thread was that for the vast majority of folks, SL has been a solid release with no major bugs.

No that wasn't the gist of the thread. The gist of the thread was that some people look past the problems that people have been having, or don't use their machines the same way, and were telling us that we were wrong about the performance and stability of SL that we have been experiencing.

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If you're going to troll, you could at least try to be a little less obvious.

Can it really be trolling if it's obvious? Seems like that would be a total defeat of the trolling concept. Was it trolling when I said that I wasn't impressed with the stability and performance last week and had multiple blind followers, like yourself, tell us that we were full of crap?
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Do any of you actually have issues with Snow Leopard? Because it seems like everyone is running 10.6.1 just great.

I don't. I have a clean install on both my Macbook Pro and iMac, and have lot's of annoying issues: very frequent beach balls, total freezes of a couple of seconds, the save dialogs in my apps take 10 seconds to appear, random crashes, etc. These last days it feels like working back on windows :-(

Not to mention the bugs!
- Adding contacts to the Address book from Mail simply does not work
- Syncing Address book and Google results in duplicate and messed up contacts
- Mail does not seem to be able to remember my SMTP password
- Finder, Mail, QuickTime and Safari crashes
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