Originally Posted by Wormhole
This could have avoided a useless war.
Please spread the good word to Bush, Palin, Bachmann, Boehner, Cantor, Limbough, Hannity, Beck and Co.
Great post SDW2001!
Nice try. The war wasn't about finding weapons in some kind of scavenger hunt. It was about Iraq repeatedly violating UN resolutions. The burden of proof was on Iraq, not the U.S. They had to prove they were complying, which they unquestionably didn't do.
Originally Posted by jimmac
Yes you've stated a lot of things. Too bad they don't have anything
to do with the reality. And now you're trying to squrm out of it. Classic SDW!
On the contrary, I have consistently backed up my positions with data, whereas you rarely do. Now, I've certainly been wrong about a few things. For example, I thought until about 6-8 months before the election that McCain would be the next President. I also didn't think the Dems would take the Senate in 2006. It happens. You, on the other hand, seem to subscribe to the notion that a stopped clock is still right twice a day.
One quote I remember is you calling it " Clinton's recession " instead of Bush's. I don''t think when someone is trtying to wiggle out of something it's amazing someone presses a point.
I don't recall posting that, but I might have. Either way, that doesn't mean he did anything specific to cause it (other than the aforementioned tax policy). That said, it was Bush's responsibility to help fix the problem, which he did.
Yeah just like you never posted the Democrats were melting down before the election.
I did, and they were. But events changed in the 6 months before the election. Obama found a way to knock out Hillary. McCain ran a crappy campaign. The economic crisis hit at the wrong time (for the GOP). That doesn't mean it wasn't true when I posted it.
A simple question SDW. The conversation we're talking about would have happened some where around 2002 or 2003. Can you search back that far?
I asked it before but all I got was " You can't find it! Nya, nya, nya! "
Actually, I don't know. Are you now asking me to go find evidence of your claim for you? Yes, I think you are. Typical. Also, I don't recall posting "Nya Nya Nya" or anything like it. I merely denied having made a comment and asked you to prove otherwise if you disagreed.
Why bother? There were so many times you mentioned Clinton when we were talking about Bush.
I don't see how that matters, even if its true. Presidents are responsible for the policies they implement. Clinton did several things, specifically, that ended up affecting events during the Bush presidency. One of these was the nuclear deal with North Korea, the consequences of which we are still dealing with today. So yes, when someone offers an opinion on how terribly Bush handled the situation with North Korea, it's worth pointing out that Clinton had specific and identifiable policies
that caused the problem.
This is why I have a problem with calling the current recession the "Bush Recession." Bush did not have policies or pursue policies that can be linked to recession. Yes, I know you'll scream "DEREGULATION, SDW!" and "WARS!", but those don't explain the recession.
What do you think this part of that conversation meant ?
However to be fair I did jump to the other recession without making a clear break so I could see where you could get confused for a moment ( unless you too busy thinking about your retort that you didn't think about what you're reading ). I haven't corrected because then you'll say I've altered things.
Yes that's what our conversation was a bout if you read back.
Classic SDW dodge.
Have you no shame?
You posted this:
Yes Bush cut taxes and unemployment dragged on forever. And guess what? Before he was out of office here we are again!
Is that correct? Good.
The implication of your statement is that cutting taxes caused unemployment to drag on forever. Or, possibly you're not linking those two...I don't know. Either way, it's an absurd statement, because unemployment did NOT drag on forever, and wasn't very high at all at any time during his presidency. I think the max was somewhere just below 7% and the average was about 5% (I can't find the data at the moment, but that's close). That is better than the average of the 70s, 80s and 90s.