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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

Apple spends much much more on TV advertising- bar none. Microsof'st is all in print advertising up to this past year.

How much did MS pay for those Jerry Seinfeld / Bill Gates ads "about nothing"?!... I think there were only three... before MS dumped that idea... and after all that money...

"Remember those awful Microsoft ads with Jerry Seinfeld and Bill Gates? Well, now you can forget them. Microsoft flacks are desperately dialing reporters to spin them about "phase two" of the ad campaign a phase, due to be announced tomorrow, which will drop the aging comic altogether. Microsoft's version of the story: Redmond had always planned to drop Seinfeld. The awkward reality: The ads only reminded us how out of touch with consumers Microsoft is and that Bill Gates's company has millions of dollars to waste on hiring a has-been funnyman to keep him company."

http://valleywag.gawker.com/5051455/...e-seinfeld-ads

How many Justin Longs ads could have been made with all that money "down the drain" ad for what, Vista!?

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post #82 of 144
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Originally Posted by Foo2 View Post

Apparently that's the case, just as there's no denying 1001 is a bigger number than 1000. Close is good enough in horseshoes and hand grenades. Verizon also nickle-and-dimes its customers more, too.

You're a blind homer, apparently. ATT isn't a little worse than Verizon. Nearly everyone on ATT complains about dropped calls at some point, while Verizon users look at you and say "you drop calls? why would you put up with that?"

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Much is the same for many Verizon users. So what's your point?

My point is that ATT drops far more calls and has far worse coverage. You missed that?

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Let me guess, it's when you're behind a hill or in a little ravine. The fact that it's predictable is a good thing, no? Are Verizon's dropped calls unpredictable... and happy?

Exactly. Driving west 50 through courthouse. Call drops every time. Exiting 66 onto the toll road access road, dropped call every time. No, it has nothing to do with geology.

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Is your iPhone jailbroken?

You've got some major jailbroke blinders on. I'm not sure where you got the idea that a large percentage of iPhones are jailbroken, but they are not. No, my iPhone is not and never has been jailbroken.

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Try a Verizon phone for a couple weeks and see if it doesn't drop calls when you're driving about. The parkways and major roads of DC go 'round and through some decent hills. My experience with Verizon, in the locations I cared about, was that its coverage was worse than AT&T.

Then you'd be the only one in the DC area who claims that.
post #83 of 144
For those of you who keep saying Verizon won't get the iPhone because Apple won't take the time to engineer a phone that does CDMA read THIS.

If Apple uses the Qualcomm chip it's game over as that chip set will do ALL of the protocols that every carrier uses including LTE.

Now would the Verizon, and other CDMA carriers, naysayers please shut up, thank you.
post #84 of 144
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Originally Posted by anothersmartphoneuser View Post

'3) A large majority of people do not travel outside of the US'

That's just f***ing sad.

I wonder what the comparable number is for Euros traveling outside the Euro area, a similarly large land mass. Americans get a bum rap for never leaving the country, in large part because we can travel far and wide without ever leaving the country!

And yes, I travel all over the world regularly so I'm not talking about myself here. But if I lived in Kansas, NYC would be a pretty wild trip! And so would San Fran! Going from France to Germany is like going from VA to GA, but it just happens to be inside what's all the same country. The different states may not speak different languages, but the cultures are just as different as going from country to country in W Europe.
post #85 of 144
Too bad the ads won't really achieve much because the iPhone . . . is not available on Verizon. And the iPhone's growth isn't slowing down anytime soon.

Here's today's MDN take:

For Verizon to place the very device upon which their now multi-year parade of inferior knockoffs is based on an "Island of Misfit Toys" is a dramatic example of self-delusion and irony. If Apple's iPhone is on an "Island of Misfit Toys," then the best devices that Verizon can offer are are lying miles off shore, submerged, rusting, and dysfunctional under at least 50 feet of salt water. It's a cute ad, but it backfires under the least bit of scrutiny: Verizon offers wider, but slower, 3G coverage and a bunch of inferior handsets that obviously, and quite desperately, only wish they were iPhones.

Verizon had better be careful. This is Steve Jobs they're dealing with and this ad is sure to come up, if not played on a huge screen, when Verizon again comes begging Apple for an iPhone deal. Or maybe Verizon just has a death wish: iPhone 4G in the U.S. on AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint.


Spot on.
post #86 of 144
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

Verizon is seeing that consumers will put up with a seemingly horrible carrier just to get their hands on the iPhone, and they can't stand it.

It must really gall Verizon that they can be just as horrible as AT&T and yet they still can't get the iPhone.
post #87 of 144
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Originally Posted by noexpectations View Post

Well, if they showed Global Coverage, your Verizon CDMA-only phone would not work in most of the world....your AT&T 3G phone would.

See this map?


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This is the map where Verizon supports the iPhone today.

True dat- but as someone else posted - what Americans travel beyond our borders? We have Disney and Las Vegas - do we really need to go anywhere else?
post #88 of 144
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Originally Posted by Rot'nApple View Post

How many Justin Longs ads could have been made with all that money "down the drain" ad for what, Vista!?

Hasta la Vista, baby! It's all about Windows 7 now.
post #89 of 144
Verizon should have spent this much money and effort on trying to get the iPhone when Apple originally offered it to them. That had to be the Business Blunder of the Decade.

Instead of paying for all these commercials and air time, why not use the money to upgrade to 4G faster?....get on to a global standard and off of CDMA ASAP.

It's clear to me that Verizon knows that they will not get the iPhone until they have a 4G Network that is completely rolled out (2012-13).
post #90 of 144
I hope the rumors are true that the iPhone is coming to Verizon in Q3 2010. I want one so bad, but I am not paying $60/month for my wife and I to have 2.5G coverage in Minnesota here. ATT is a joke.
post #91 of 144
You know, I can't wait 'til the iPhone comes to Verizon. Then this tired debate can be put to bed. If you get better coverage with Verizon in your area, then you'll get your iPhone with them. If, like me, you get better (3G) coverage in your area from AT&T, then you'll stay with them. I drop no more calls with my iPhone than I did with my Crackberry on Verizon. Maybe after 30%-50% of AT&T iPhone subscribers switch back to Verizon, it'll tax the crap out of their network as well.
post #92 of 144
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Originally Posted by surebet07 View Post

Verizon should have spent this much money and effort on trying to get the iPhone when Apple originally offered it to them. That had to be the Business Blunder of the Decade.

Instead of paying for all these commercials and air time, why not use the money to upgrade to 4G faster?....get on to a global standard and off of CDMA ASAP.

It's clear to me that Verizon knows that they will not get the iPhone until they have a 4G Network that is completely rolled out (2012-13).

I thought the Business Blunder of the Decade was the iPhone locked into AT&FEE for 3 years and counting with such lousy coverage, late MMS, and still no tethering. Imagine how much more APple could have made if the iPhone were offered on more than one carrier. As much as Apple has made off its iPhone, AT&Fee has more than made riding on its back.
Did Apple actually think the cellphone market wasn't going to be competitive? I'm surprised it actually took this long for direct advertising attacks.
post #93 of 144
Verizon:

"Come enjoy our faster, more reliable network, with a whole range of lousy phones that aren't the iPhone!"

Winner.
post #94 of 144
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Originally Posted by lowededwookie View Post

I take it no one here has read Daniel's (AKA Prince McClean) article outlining legitimate reasons why "Verizon getting an iPhone" claims are unfounded. It's here for those who missed it:

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/1...ng-to-verizon/

CDMA is a dying technology. Telecom here in New Zealand is ditching its CDMA network for WCDMA because it can't use its phones elsewhere in the world very easily instead having to use World Mode phones which are kind of pathetic. Also Telecom's phones have been so feature poor that Vodafone was trouncing them. Hell, Vodafone's bottom end phone has BlueTooth and web browsing which is more than some of Telecom's top end phones had.

If Verizon is insisting on continuing using CDMA then all the features that makes the iPhone a great phone will largely be useless under CDMA. CDMA 3G is no way near as good as WCDMA and I've seen the two working side by side with a test between Vodafone's UMTS network and Telecom's CDMA network and Telecom failed miserably.

I'm picking that in the right spots the battle between the two would probably favour AT&T instead of Verizon.

I guess you missed the later article

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...n_q3_2010.html

about the next generation of iPhone being a UMTS/CDMA hybrid and that it will be available on Verizon.
post #95 of 144
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

I thought the Business Blunder of the Decade was the iPhone locked into AT&FEE for 3 years

Except that the iPhone is enjoying record sales with no slowdown in sight, is about to overtake RIM, has handed AT&T record quarters, and has become the Gold Standard of smartphones. All in two years.

Apple locking it to AT&T was a brilliant move. It has create a wicked amount of demand for the iPhone and Apple is quute pleased to listen to and deny various iPhone suitors at will. Apple has seen that the iPhone has such desirability that consumers are willing to put up with a dinosaur carrier in order to use it. Apple now knows just how far it can go with controlling carriers and just how much power it wields among them.
post #96 of 144
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

Mmmmm, I seem to recall you using the words "troll", "trolling" "resident troll" etc, etc.etc as if they are so grown up? And "stunted little mind" might just be a personal attack?

(i) You recall wrong - can you find a post of mine that uses the word 'troll?' (ii) I said, 'symptomatic of a ......' - you should expand your own comprehension a bit more.
post #97 of 144
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

I thought the Business Blunder of the Decade was the iPhone locked into AT&FEE for 3 years and counting with such lousy coverage, late MMS, and still no tethering. Imagine how much more APple could have made if the iPhone were offered on more than one carrier. As much as Apple has made off its iPhone, AT&Fee has more than made riding on its back.
Did Apple actually think entering the cellphone market wasn't going to be competitive? I'm surprised it actually took this long.

3 years? Mine was 2.

Service where I am at is great....I get 4-5 bars inside my home now. I think that AT&T installed a new tower near me....or added that new frequency that is able to penetrate walls.

If your service is so bad, why didn't you return the phone?.....you had 30 days.
post #98 of 144
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Originally Posted by surebet07 View Post

3 years? Mine was 2.

Service where I am at is great....I get 4-5 bars inside my home now. I think that AT&T installed a new tower near me....or added that new frequency that is able to penetrate walls.

If your service is so bad, why didn't you return the phone?.....you had 30 days.

He's one of those that knew about AT&T and their service issues, then went ahead anyway and got an iPhone. And then keeps complaining about AT&T.

Witness the power of the iPhone.
post #99 of 144
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

Verizon:

"Come enjoy our faster, more reliable network, with a whole range of lousy phones that aren't the iPhone!"

Winner.

Like having a superhighway with no Lexus only Camaros?

Lexus, on the other hand, stuck on country back roads!
post #100 of 144
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Originally Posted by surebet07 View Post

3 years? Mine was 2.

Service where I am at is great....I get 4-5 bars inside my home now. I think that AT&T installed a new tower near me....or added that new frequency that is able to penetrate walls.

If your service is so bad, why didn't you return the phone?.....you had 30 days.

We're now in the 3rd year of AT&T/iPhone exclusivity with each other.
My coverage is not that bad- just not as good as my old Verizon crap phone.
post #101 of 144
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

He's one of those that knew about AT&T and their service issues, then went ahead anyway and got an iPhone. And then keeps complaining about AT&T.

Witness the power of the iPhone.

I absolutely love my iPhone. It completes me.
post #102 of 144
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Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post

The "Misfit Toys" one is pure genius. That being said, I know everyone loves to crap on AT&T's service, but I have no complaints here in the Raleigh, NC area.

indeed. i'm in LA and have had no issues.

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Originally Posted by Jerseymac View Post

Santa, if you're listening, all I want for Christmas is a Verizon iPhone.

you must be talking Christmas 2011 cause that is when it is plausible

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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

Lame. They could have got a real iPhone.

or perhaps not. there are rules about using products in ads, tv shows etc. if they didn't have the proper permissions they could get sued. and I doubt Apple would say yes since the ads are bashing a partner

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Originally Posted by alandail View Post

Verizon can't directly attack the iPhone too much since sometime next year they'll be selling it.

MIGHT. not will. and the might is at this point unlikely. despite the articles about the 3way chipset it also says that it will be sampling next summer. which means it isn't likely to show up for real for up to a year after that.

the best we might have next summer is unlocked phones good for all GSM carriers. but even a fight between ATT and TMobile could produce better rates etc so it is still all good.

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Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post

I think that you are reading the ads wrong. These ads are in no way an attack on Apple or the iPhone -- they are direct assault on AT&T.

it would be more plausible an argument if they toss a blackberry or two in the ads. to cover the notion of all smart phones. instead they only use, and clearly show that it is meant to be, iphones.

also there have been articles saying that ATT's Edge is 90% the speed of Verizon's 3g with ATT's 3g being slightly faster. which is why they are taking issue with the ads even though the maps are clearly marked "3g coverage". so they need to whip up some ads on this point to counter the ads.

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Originally Posted by Andyinc91 View Post

i dont see why verizon has to keep using the iPhone in their anti-at&t commercials. if they wanna get on Apple's good side in order to get the iPhone next year,

perhaps they know that despite this talk of a dual chip, tri-chip, Apple has no plans to support CDMA so they aren't really losing anything taking shots at the iphone.

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Originally Posted by Rot'nApple View Post

But not Steve Jobs? I thought it was him that worked the deal with Cingular(AT&T) and then telling us consumers at the iPhone introduction in January that Cingular/AT&T was the best choice!

at the time that they made that announcement it was the best choice. ATT was better than TMobile and the choice was to support GSM not CDMA. Also, for all we know ATT promised them that the network was enough to cover the traffic and being improved all the time.

trouble was that the iphone was more popular than anyone expected. and ATT can't keep up. As perhaps TMobile would not have been able to, or even Verizon.


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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

Too bad the ads won't really achieve much because the iPhone . . . is not available on Verizon. And the iPhone's growth isn't slowing down anytime soon.

Here's today's MDN take:


Verizon had better be careful. This is Steve Jobs they're dealing with and this ad is sure to come up, if not played on a huge screen, when Verizon again comes begging Apple for an iPhone deal. Or maybe Verizon just has a death wish: iPhone 4G in the U.S. on AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint.


Spot on.

actually no it isn't. they blew it with the last comment. Sprint is NOT going LTE. they are supporting Wimax. so no iphone for them.

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Originally Posted by alandail View Post

I guess you missed the later article

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...n_q3_2010.html

about the next generation of iPhone being a UMTS/CDMA hybrid and that it will be available on Verizon.

guess you missed that it was a rumor and not an announcement from Jobs and company. that's when something is real. not when AI etc say it might happen
post #103 of 144
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

I absolutely love my iPhone. It completes me.

Same here.
post #104 of 144
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

Same here.

I can't tell you how many things I used to dread doing here in NYC (land of the lines) but now waiting is a vacation with the iPhone. Last week I had a doctor's appointment with an hour plus wait- no problem. Same thing with a post office pick up on Saturday- the line was 45 minutes, again no problem.
post #105 of 144
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

I thought the Business Blunder of the Decade was the iPhone locked into AT&FEE for 3 years and counting with such lousy coverage, late MMS, and still no tethering. Imagine how much more APple could have made if the iPhone were offered on more than one carrier. As much as Apple has made off its iPhone, AT&Fee has more than made riding on its back.

Yeah... nerds think that tethering and MMS are important, but nerds always have trouble understanding how little the other 95% of the population cares about what they care about.

Apple might have made more in the first two years if Verizon could also sell the iPhone, but it might have made less (because ATT paid sky high prices for the iPhone, which wouldn't have been as high without that exclusivity). By the time the 3GS came out, I do think that Apple started leaving real money on the table. The true masterstroke would be switching the VERIZON exclusivity for the next gen iPhone (assuming 4G was ready, which it is not) and then get a king's ransom from Verizon for all those hordes of switchers.

Can you imagine? You've been with ATT for 3 years for the iPhone, and you're hooked, though you do wish you could have Verizon's network. Suddenly the next gen iPhone is only on Verizon! I bet Apple could charge Verizon $1000 per sale (with a two year contract and those high cancellation fees) and Verizon would happily pay it. Of course this would piss off a lot of customers, but the financial windfall would be obscene.

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Did Apple actually think entering the cellphone market wasn't going to be competitive? I'm surprised it actually took this long.

Entering the cell phone market has been anything but competitive for Apple.
post #106 of 144
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Originally Posted by cameronj View Post

Yeah... nerds think that tethering and MMS are important, but nerds always have trouble understanding how little the other 95% of the population cares about what they care about.

Apple might have made more in the first two years if Verizon could also sell the iPhone, but it might have made less (because ATT paid sky high prices for the iPhone, which wouldn't have been as high without that exclusivity). By the time the 3GS came out, I do think that Apple started leaving real money on the table. The true masterstroke would be switching the VERIZON exclusivity for the next gen iPhone (assuming 4G was ready, which it is not) and then get a king's ransom from Verizon for all those hordes of switchers.



Entering the cell phone market has been anything but competitive for Apple.

Well Verizon didn't want it - so how was that competitive? ( I meant cellphone market in general)
post #107 of 144
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Originally Posted by cameronj View Post

You're a blind homer, apparently. ATT isn't a little worse than Verizon. Nearly everyone on ATT complains about dropped calls at some point, while Verizon users look at you and say "you drop calls? why would you put up with that?"

I had more dropped calls with a Samsung phone on Verizon than with any other phone on any other network.

So....
post #108 of 144
So Apple finally gets bashed and everyone is boohooing. Shouldn't have bashed PCs for 3 years I guess.
Microsoft on the other hand has taken the high road at least with their positive attitude Windows 7 commercials. I actually find them fascinating!.
post #109 of 144
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

Well Verizon didn't want it - so how was that competitive? ( I meant cellphone market in general)

Verizon wanted it, they just didn't want it at the price (both dollars and loss of control) that was asked. And that's the definition of competition my slow friend.
post #110 of 144
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Originally Posted by nondual View Post

I had more dropped calls with a Samsung phone on Verizon than with any other phone on any other network.

So....

Then I guess we should throw out all of the market research that contradicts your single experience, right? Did you consider that you didn't even eliminate the phone as the cause of the problems?

Duh
post #111 of 144
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Originally Posted by desertofwater View Post

So Apple finally gets bashed and everyone is boohooing. Shouldn't have bashed PCs for 3 years I guess.
Microsoft on the other hand has taken the high road at least with their positive attitude Windows 7 commercials. I actually find them fascinating!.

I don't see anyone "boohooing". MIcrosoft, on the other hand, realized that their "laptop hunter" commercials weren't really effective at anything other than making a bunch of 20-something nerds lust over Lauren. I find their new "shiny happy people" commercials fascinating, too, although maybe not for the same reason you do.
post #112 of 144
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

Same here.

I agree with both of you. I had Verizon for about 5 years and never had a problem except they were behind the curve with offering the newest phones. When my contract was up last year I switched to AT&T and the iPhone 3Gs.
I have never had a problem with AT&T and their coverage.
My 13 year old son still has a verizon phone and we compare signal strength all the time and everywhere we go. We both always have just about the same signal strength. I have not noticed a difference in networks from Verizon to AT&T!
Except of couse now I have the iphone which is a all in one phone, music player and all around entertainment device! It is like carrying a min laptop wherever I go!

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post #113 of 144
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Originally Posted by cameronj View Post

Verizon wanted it, they just didn't want it at the price (both dollars and loss of control) that was asked. And that's the definition of competition my slow friend.

My slowest friend- and when you don't counter offer for said prodfuct and simply reject it instead there is NO competition. It is called rejection plain and simply- surely you know that defintion.
post #114 of 144
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Originally Posted by Jon T View Post

For APPL longs, we also want the iPhone on every large network.

Correct. We heard it said that Steve will not give the iPhone to Verizon after their initial rejection of the original iPhone proposal and now these ads. But there is a fine line between Steve being a prophet and a CEO. He can get away with more than your average CEO in terms of dictating corporate policy based on his personal philosophy because of the successful track record. But his first responsibility as a CEO is to maximize profits for the shareholders.

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post #115 of 144
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

My slowest friend- and when you don't counter offer for said prodfuct and simply reject it instead there is NO competition. It is called rejection plain and simply- surely you know that defintion.

I'm impressed to know that you were in on the negotiations.

Who are you kidding, suggesting that you know the details of offers and counter offers? Don't you know if you're going to BS, stick to BS that's within the realm of believability? Everyone here knows that neither you nor anyone else who's talking has intimate details of the negotiations. It's all speculation that has become folklore.

Oh, and don't start a sentence with 'and,' it makes you sound uneducated.
post #116 of 144
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Originally Posted by cameronj View Post

Oh, and don't start a sentence with 'and,' it makes you sound uneducated.

I am. And therefore, why are you talking to me?
post #117 of 144
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Originally Posted by anothersmartphoneuser View Post

'3) A large majority of people do not travel outside of the US'

That's just f***ing sad.

Perhaps it should be clarified as, it isn't necessary to make a phone decision based off where you will be 2% of the time as opposed to 98% of the time.

I can buy a $20 Nokia for those instances where GSM is necessary to get the job done.

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post #118 of 144
Yay, more free advertising for AT&T.

What school did Verizon's marketing people graduate from? Clown School? Everybody knows that you do *not* mention your competition's name in your ads. You might *imply* who you're talking about, you might say "here's our competition's coverage map" without saying your competition's name, but never mention your competitor's name, because that just improves his name recognition. When people decide to actually go buy cellular service they don't do it immediately after an ad, they do it some time later, and by that time they will have forgotten who is who and often tend to go to the carrier with the best name recognition. "AT&T? Sounds familiar, lots of ads mentioning their name, sounds good to me."

I mean, I'm not a marketing guru, but this is what was taught to me by people who *are* marketing gurus, which makes me wonder about the sanity of the people at Verizon. And BTW, you want the fastest 3G network? Sprint. By a landslide. I've used'em all, and Sprint's 3G network wins hands-down, coverage isn't great but where there *is* coverage it runs at speeds that Verizon and AT&T can only dream about.
post #119 of 144
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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post

guess you missed that it was a rumor and not an announcement from Jobs and company. that's when something is real. not when AI etc say it might happen

As was the other article that said the iPhone wasn't coming to verizon. Both are nothing more than rumors at this point. What isn't a rumor is the fact that AT&T's exclusive deal is set to expire. What also isn't a rumor is the fact that in other countries, Apple is pursuing deals with multiple carriers. Also, Verizon's CEO has been quoted as saying they would like to carry the iPhone.

Apple could accomplish it with a hybrid model. They could also accomplish it with a model specific to EV-DO. I'm sure if Motorola and RIM can manages to make versions of their phones for both AT&T and Verizon, that Apple can do it as well.
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

Or is that still the Blackberry?

http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/10...-satisfaction/

Not for long.

Apple, with a single device, on ONE carrier, in only two years, enjoying skyrocketing demand unabated, with carriers desperate for the device, is already at 30%, with RIM in decline.

The iPhone with 30% market share is only available (officially) on one network, AT&T. Whereas RIM is on all the networks and still only at 40%.

The writing is on the wall.
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