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Mini towers, while I wouldn't mind a small one or two slot Mac mini tower, I don't think they are ever gong to do it. The new i7 iMac's just about put a nail in that coffin.


An i7 Mac mini would be nice. Maybe in a slightly bigger form factor (4" height vs. 2" for mini) to allow for an optical drive and two hard drives; discrete graphics would be nice too.

Or an all new i7 Cube?

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post #42 of 101
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Originally Posted by mrr View Post

Ok Apple, I get it. No more hackintoshes because you are hacked.

We are hacked too, because people REALLY do want NETBOOKS - not oversized iPhone iTablets.

The least you can do is give us a 10" MacBook Air !

There is some extra space to the left and right of the keyboard on the Macbook Air. Hopefully Apple engineers can find a way to shrink it down to the very edges of the keyboard and give us an 11" Macbook Air. Hey, we can dream can't we?
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Originally Posted by MacTripper View Post

Is Apple going down the Microsoft road of insecure/buggy OS in order to cause updates and breaking of hackintoshes?

Where the hell did that come from?
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Originally Posted by AeronPrometheus View Post

The question to that is, why did they not also cut out the code for Centrinos? or Pentiums?

LOL. Noob!

Centrino is the brand name for the Mobo+CPU+GPU+WiFi combo provided by Intel. The CPUs initially started out as Pentiums (4s I think), but Centrino actually includes whatever the current generation of CPUs happen to be.
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Originally Posted by tawilson View Post

LOL. Noob!
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The CPUs initially started out as Pentiums (4s I think)

Before you start calling others "Noob", you should make sure you know what you are talking about.

What CPUs started out as Pentium 4s? The Pentium 4? What about the Pentium 3, Pentium 2, and original Pentium? Don't forget the Pentium MMX or Pentium Pro. You could throw the Pentium 2 Xeon and Pentium 3 Xeon into the mix as well if you like.
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Originally Posted by guytoronto View Post

Before you start calling others "Noob", you should make sure you know what you are talking about.

What CPUs started out as Pentium 4s? The Pentium 4? What about the Pentium 3, Pentium 2, and original Pentium? Don't forget the Pentium MMX or Pentium Pro. You could throw the Pentium 2 Xeon and Pentium 3 Xeon into the mix as well if you like.

By "The CPUs", I'll expand the sentence fully, maybe brevity wasn't such a good idea after all.

The CPUs [used in the Centrino Chipsets] started out as Pentium (4s I think). As in I wasn't sure whether the first Centrino chipsets indeed used the Pentium 3.

There were two ways you could have read my sentence, and you've gone out of your way to assume I meant the incorrect way.

I was doing computer studies at college when the 486-DX was state of the art, so spare me the CPU history lesson, I've lived all of Intel's x86 life.
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Can someone post the support notes of a release of OS X which did officially support Atom. As far as I am aware, no release has ever officially supported it as there are no Atom bases Apple products.

I think people get confused between 'officially supporting' and 'able to run on'. The fact that previous releases of OS X have run on Atom processors is not Apple officially supporting the processor. They may have included this functionality whilst they develop their answer to the Netbook, maybe the much rumoured but yet unseen Tablet. However, I would suspect a Tablet computer would use iPhone OS rather than OS X.

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Originally Posted by womble2k2 View Post

Can someone post the support notes of a release of OS X which did officially support Atom. As far as I am aware, no release has ever officially supported it as there are no Atom bases Apple products.

I think people get confused between 'officially supporting' and 'able to run on'. The fact that previous releases of OS X have run on Atom processors is not Apple officially supporting the processor.

Very good point indeed.

Although the headline reads:

Intel Atom support officially missing from Mac OS X 10.6.2

and not:

Official Intel Atom support missing from Mac OS X 10.6.2

The first one meaning it has been confirmed that 10.6.2 removes support for Atom. Only if it was phrased the second way would it have meant 'officially supported'
post #49 of 101
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Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post

the atom is the crappiest cpu on the market, via included.
That said its very obvious most of them are doing a diservice to themselves by not buying a superior apple products. Although with most of these computer modders/geek guys it's much less of an actual attempt to get a working computer to get their job done and more of a perennial moding/testing thing, a sexual thing really, subverted.

I have an iBook, MacBook, AppleTV, iPhone, TimeCapsule, mobileMe, iPods and iMac from Apple. So I know their quality and longlievity.

I do have a Hackintosh too. And guess what ? I like it. Its small, its light, its (replaceable) battery [not that I acre] lasts 5.5 - 6 hours for the basic things that i do most of the day with a/any PC. Write mails, work, internet browsing, content sharing.

No it is not for content creation. But plugging in a camera and uploading the pics to facebook and mobileMe works a treat. Now why on earth would I wanna do that with a windows machine, given the rest of my config
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Originally Posted by MacTel View Post

Yes, I know the Mini and Macbook can hook-up to HDTV. I've heard it plenty of times. There are many converter cables but I like the simplicity of one cable. That is especially important on such a small device where every bit of real estate is precious. On at least the Dell Mini Netbook there's no optical drive but there's an SD card (sound familiar?).

I'm talking about Apple missing the netbook boat. Windows 7, even the starter edition on netbooks, is a good OS. Is it as good as OSX? I my opinion not quite but pretty close. Hopefully Apple will distance themselves from Windows 7 in the next OSX release.

So for a $349 base price I can do what the Mini can and have a keyboard, glidepad (mouse essentially), and a monitor for $250 less. I could almost buy two of them. And the Mini is visually more appealing.

The cons of the Mini are that it feels cheap on the glidepad, there's no optical drive (that's extra), and Dell clutters up the display with their own Mac OSX dock rip off. Other than that it is a rocking system. Apple only needs to introduce their own at $599 with similar specs and they'd sell like hotcakes. Why they don't make netbooks, mini towers, blades etc is anyone's guess. They feel they don't need to but maybe they would be in the top 5 computer manufacturers in the world if they did.

I'm still a Mac OSX fan and will always be but I'm also a Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony, RIM, and HP fan when they make good products too.

The only thing on SD that I would ever use is the occasional picture. Takes all of 2 seconds to plug in a USB reader when I need it. SD is nice and all when I used it once every few months. My latest camera comes with wireless. I just send them directly to my PC.

Why in the world would you want a HTPC with no optical drive? Don't watch anything on DVD much I take it. To each his own I suppose. The optical drive is standard on the base mini. It's not on the Mini server.

They don't make netbooks because they are bottom of the barrel computers. Something you find at WalMart. No profit there.

By all means, enjoy your Dell and congratulations. If it makes you happy then it's served it's purpose.
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Originally Posted by tawilson View Post

LOL. Noob!

Centrino is the brand name for the Mobo+CPU+GPU+WiFi combo provided by Intel. The CPUs initially started out as Pentiums (4s I think), but Centrino actually includes whatever the current generation of CPUs happen to be.

I think he was trying to say Celeron, not Centrino. (I started on a TRS-80, and built my first PC using an 8088
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post #52 of 101
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Of course, the Software Updater is grabbing the package for your particular machine so it’s significantly smaller. It won’t work for any other machine.




1) Cutting off netbooks does not cut off the Hackintosh community, which can use non-Atom Intel and AMD processors

2) Cutting off Atom support at 10.6.2 to supress the Hackintosh community makes no sense because there aren’t wanting by staying with 10.6.1.

3) If they were going cut off the Hackintosh community they would have done it at a major update and in a way that it makes it harder for all non-Mac HW to run Mac OS X.

Everything else is irrational.

No sorry genius, not everything else is irrational. This might be the most useless post in this entire thread. Its certainly the only one to suggest that this wasn't intentional on Apple's part. LOL, wow w.a.f.i. For most people, this is it. As soon as the OS can't by updated anymore, the game is over.

Guess what? The game is over. The non-factor, non-market, non-interesting Netbooks can now be even LESS interesting than they were yesterday, if that's even possible.
post #53 of 101
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Originally Posted by MacTel View Post

Yes, I know the Mini and Macbook can hook-up to HDTV. I've heard it plenty of times. There are many converter cables but I like the simplicity of one cable. That is especially important on such a small device where every bit of real estate is precious. On at least the Dell Mini Netbook there's no optical drive but there's an SD card (sound familiar?).

I'm talking about Apple missing the netbook boat. Windows 7, even the starter edition on netbooks, is a good OS. Is it as good as OSX? I my opinion not quite but pretty close. Hopefully Apple will distance themselves from Windows 7 in the next OSX release.

So for a $349 base price I can do what the Mini can and have a keyboard, glidepad (mouse essentially), and a monitor for $250 less. I could almost buy two of them. And the Mini is visually more appealing.

The cons of the Mini are that it feels cheap on the glidepad, there's no optical drive (that's extra), and Dell clutters up the display with their own Mac OSX dock rip off. Other than that it is a rocking system. Apple only needs to introduce their own at $599 with similar specs and they'd sell like hotcakes. Why they don't make netbooks, mini towers, blades etc is anyone's guess. They feel they don't need to but maybe they would be in the top 5 computer manufacturers in the world if they did.

I'm still a Mac OSX fan and will always be but I'm also a Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony, RIM, and HP fan when they make good products too.

Good god, this again? There is no netbook "boat". Never was, never will be. Its more of a rounding error than anything else. If people want a Mac, they can buy a Mac. I'm tired of people passing off P.O.S. netbooks as if they are a legitimate alternative to get started with OSX. They're not legitimate, nor a GOOD OSX experience. I would never recommend one to anyone, and no one seriously considering buying a Mac would ever opt for such a piece of crap.

Oh, right, except the current Mac user that has 4 pieces of hardware he's bored with, so he wastes some money on a Dell just so he can hack it and feel better for a few hours. Great.
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Originally Posted by pmz View Post

No sorry genius, not everything else is irrational. For most people, this is it. As soon as the OS can by updated anymore, the game is over.

Guess what? The game is over. The non-factor, non-market, non-interesting Netbooks can now be even LESS interesting than they were yesterday, if that's even possible.

If they compete with an Apple product, be that unreleased, or the tablet, or whatever, then I could understand Apple's move. Even if Apple doesn't release a netbook, I could see the hackintosh creating uneeded competition if they are installing it on netbooks. Hardware which could potentially compete with a tablet.

Everyone is totally guessing at this point. Makes no difference to me. I have no hackintoshes, and I don't see any value in a netbook.
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If they compete with an Apple product, be that unreleased, or the tablet, or whatever, then I could understand Apple's move. Even if Apple doesn't release a netbook, I could see the hackintosh creating uneeded competition if they are installing it on netbooks. Hardware which could potentially compete with a tablet.

Everyone is totally guessing at this point. Makes no difference to me. I have no hackintoshes, and I don't see any value in a netbook.

Here's the thing. Hackintosh netbooks, regardless of what the dorks tell you, are for DORKS-only.

They are NOT, NOT, NOT a consumer-oriented, entry-level MacBook. This bogus theory that many people try to tout, that, "Someone considering their first Mac, but unsure about diving in with both feet, (a.k.a: ponying up a thousand bucks) might buy a $350-450 dollar netbook, and "buy" a $130 retail copy of Mac OSX, and create themselves a $580 entry level Mac.".....is absolutely ridiculous.

Someone who cannot yet bring themselves to spend $1000 on a Mac, is certainly not going to spend half that, over $500, on a product that is critically handicapped, and completely unsupported. Yeah, try telling your mom that you're getting her a $500 Mac, but there won't be any customer service available, not anywhere. Not from Dell, not from Apple, and not from you unless you're around with your Leopard DVD.

What a joke. Its stunning how arrogant and uninformed Mac users are.
post #56 of 101
If you want support from Apple, get a Mac. If you want sorry hardware and poor support stick with PCs.
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Here's the thing. Hackintosh netbooks, regardless of what the dorks tell you, are for DORKS-only.

They are NOT, NOT, NOT a consumer-oriented, entry-level MacBook. This bogus theory that many people try to tout, that, "Someone considering their first Mac, but unsure about diving in with both feet, (a.k.a: ponying up a thousand bucks) might buy a $350-450 dollar netbook, and "buy" a $130 retail copy of Mac OSX, and create themselves a $580 entry level Mac.".....is absolutely ridiculous.

Someone who cannot yet bring themselves to spend $1000 on a Mac, is certainly not going to spend half that, over $500, on a product that is critically handicapped, and completely unsupported. Yeah, try telling your mom that you're getting her a $500 Mac, but there won't be any customer service available, not anywhere. Not from Dell, not from Apple, and not from you unless you're around with your Leopard DVD.

What a joke. Its stunning how arrogant and uninformed Mac users are.

I don't know what it is about AI, but too many of the folks on here are rude as hell. You could have said as much without being so inflammatory. I happen to agree with your sentiment, but not with your style of reply. Would you want to be spoken to in such a way?

I really wish there was a better moderation system with real teeth in place here.
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post #58 of 101
I was looking at a netbook the other day and I couldn't help but notice how much it look like a Fisher Price toy. I may get one for my grandson. No loss if he breaks it.
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I don't know what it is about AI, but too many of the folks on here are rude as hell. You could have said as much without being so inflammatory. I happen to agree with your sentiment, but not with your style of reply. Would you want to be spoken to in such a way?

I really wish there was a better moderation system with real teeth in place here.

Oh please. Maturity sounds like something you should be more interested in. The moderation system here as already absolutely ridiculous.
post #60 of 101
No need for Hackintoshes anymore now that Windows 7 has arrived with such glowing reviews. Hackintoshes were only needed in the age of Vista . They are obsolete now.
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Originally Posted by DJRumpy View Post

I don't know what it is about AI, but too many of the folks on here are rude as hell. You could have said as much without being so inflammatory. I happen to agree with your sentiment, but not with your style of reply. Would you want to be spoken to in such a way?

I really wish there was a better moderation system with real teeth in place here.

I know - it used to be a such a civil place on here when I first started 2 years ago and then it became so polarizing once Apple stopped selling matte screens , AT&T dropping calls, iPhones pushing MACS to the curb, Windows 7 became a hit, etc ,etc
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I know - it used to be a such a civil place on here when I first started and then it became so polarizing once Apple stopped selling matte screens and Windows 7 became a hit.

How is Windows 7 doing by the way? I know they said initial sales were strong. I've been running it for about a year on bootcamp. It's done fine for the most part, but one of my Macbooks is starting to show signs of sluggish boot, and a slammed CPU on startup that was so common under XP, and pervasive under Vista.
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Originally Posted by DJRumpy View Post

I don't know what it is about AI, but too many of the folks on here are rude as hell. You could have said as much without being so inflammatory. I happen to agree with your sentiment, but not with your style of reply. Would you want to be spoken to in such a way?

I really wish there was a better moderation system with real teeth in place here.

I don't agree. As someone who's often painted with that same "rudeness" brush (mostly undeserved), I don't think this post stands out as especially rude except perhaps the first and last sentences. The meat of what is being said here is true and is simply stated.

Even so, "beating up" on a other posters for making stupid or unintelligible remarks is negative, but not necessarily "bad" IMO. If people are not corrected, they won't ever learn. This isn't a self esteem society, it's a debating area.

I find the constant non-sequitors by actors like teckstud, and the constant crap-stream from people who just come here to drop one liners about how they hate Apple to be far "ruder." They also have the failing of being completely un-constructive, uninformative, and useless in almost every way. They make other people angry, without contributing anything at all.

Anyone who's actually trying to say something and can be engaged in a debate is already worthwhile IMO however rude they may get. If they are also "nice" at least some of the time, well, then I guess that makes them human, you know? No one is nice all the time.
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How is Windows 7 doing by the way? I know they said initial sales were strong. I've been running it for about a year on bootcamp. It's done fine for the most part, but one of my Macbooks is starting to show signs of sluggish boot, and a slammed CPU on startup that was so common under XP, and pervasive under Vista.

I heard that box sales of Windows 7 have done very well, but I'm also hearing that system sales with Windows 7 not so much. That's not going to save the PC industry.
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anyone have any help on how to get back my recordings ?

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I don't agree. As someone who's often painted with that same "rudeness" brush (mostly undeserved), I don't think this post stands out as especially rude except perhaps the first and last sentences. The meat of what is being said here is true and is simply stated.

Even so, "beating up" on a other posters for making stupid or unintelligible remarks is negative, but not necessarily "bad" IMO. If people are not corrected, they won't ever learn. This isn't a self esteem society, it's a debating area.

I find the constant non-sequitors by actors like teckstud, and the constant crap-stream from people who just come here to drop one liners about how they hate Apple to be far "ruder." They also have the failing of being completely un-constructive, uninformative, and useless in almost every way. They make other people angry, without contributing anything at all.

Anyone who's actually trying to say something and can be engaged in a debate is already worthwhile IMO however rude they may get. If they are also "nice" at least some of the time, well, then I guess that makes them human, you know? No one is nice all the time.

I also agreed with the 'meat' of what was said, but it was a poor choice of words, and inflammatory (flamebait). No need to encourage that kind of attitude IMO.
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Originally Posted by DJRumpy View Post

The only 'market' there is for people who put together home built PC's for dirt cheap, meaning there's no profit for Apple. Makes sense for them to prevent hackintosh from a business perspective. I would guesstimate that a large portion of that community probably didn't even bother to buy OS X, but downloaded it via Torrent.


This is it in a nutshell. People can argue for days that they help rather than hurt Apple (which is not my view), but Apple is smart enough to know that the time to act on protecting your intellectual property is when the people glomming it have zero potential of becoming customers.
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Originally Posted by dcolley View Post

I heard that box sales of Windows 7 have done very well, but I'm also hearing that system sales with Windows 7 not so much. That's not going to save the PC industry.

The economy is far from robust and we will have to see the figures after the holidays to see how well new PCs are selling with it pre-installed.
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Good god, this again? There is no netbook "boat". Never was, never will be. Its more of a rounding error than anything else. If people want a Mac, they can buy a Mac. I'm tired of people passing off P.O.S. netbooks as if they are a legitimate alternative to get started with OSX. They're not legitimate, nor a GOOD OSX experience. I would never recommend one to anyone, and no one seriously considering buying a Mac would ever opt for such a piece of crap.

Oh, right, except the current Mac user that has 4 pieces of hardware he's bored with, so he wastes some money on a Dell just so he can hack it and feel better for a few hours. Great.

You sound like Ballmer with the "rounding error" bit.

I didn't buy the netbook rather I won it at a conference and it isn't a POS, but that's my opinion kind of like yours.

Acer is beating the pants off of Dell for marketshare and soon HP solely based on their netbook sales and they are still making a profit.
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While I'm sure Apple is keeping options open in their internal work work on OS X (as they maintained working x86 builds for many years before they went intel) how is it that people keep saying that they have **dropped support for** Atom processors?
Apple has never **been supporting** Atom processors and they continue not to support them. Any notion to the contrary is simply delusional.
Duh!
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Originally Posted by pmz View Post

No sorry genius, not everything else is irrational. This might be the most useless post in this entire thread. Its certainly the only one to suggest that this wasn't intentional on Apple's part. LOL, wow w.a.f.i. For most people, this is it. As soon as the OS can't by updated anymore, the game is over.

In your infinite wisdom, explain to us how purposely cutting off netbooks in v10.6.2 disables the hackintosh community? Oh, thats right, it doesnt. 10.6.2 bug fixes with Atom support is being added right now and other Intel and AMD support. Seriously, Id like to hear your play -by-play on Apples big conspiracy to knock out Atom-based hackintoshs on 10.6.2 but no other hackintosh and only at a point release update.
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So for a $349 base price I can do what the Mini can and have a keyboard, glidepad (mouse essentially), and a monitor for $250 less. I could almost buy two of them. And the Mini is visually more appealing.

Great. How much profit does that make for Apple? Apple doesn't want to compete in a market where profit margins are razor thin just to satisfy some geeks on forums. It's that simple.

The danger in making these is that it will cannibalize sales of MacBooks. MacBooks have healthy profit margins for Apple. Netbooks wouldn't. Apple knows this.

Why don't people here realize this?
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Originally Posted by freelander51 View Post

I have an iBook, MacBook, AppleTV, iPhone, TimeCapsule, mobileMe, iPods and iMac from Apple. So I know their quality and longlievity.

I do have a Hackintosh too. And guess what ? I like it. Its small, its light, its (replaceable) battery [not that I acre] lasts 5.5 - 6 hours for the basic things that i do most of the day with a/any PC. Write mails, work, internet browsing, content sharing.

No it is not for content creation. But plugging in a camera and uploading the pics to facebook and mobileMe works a treat. Now why on earth would I wanna do that with a windows machine, given the rest of my config

Fair Point. But you are the minority. I guess the mactablet will wonderfully suit you then, I know it will suit me a lot, I am eagerly anticipating it.
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Originally Posted by DJRumpy View Post

Anyone else finding the size of this update to be substantially less than the 400 MB? On all 4 of my Mac's, it's coming in at 200 MB or so.

nevermind
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

They would like be in the top 5 but how much would it increase their value as a company if they are now selling Macs with razor thin margins? How would it hurt the long term value of the Mac brand if they sold Macs that compete with the cheaply built netbooks? Could Apple even compete with these cheap machines without resorting to selling out to 3rd-party vendors by loading crapware on the systems?

Complete agreement.

People just don't get that, in order to be able to manufacture and sell an ultra-cheap PC at a profit, you need to do one or more of the following:
  • Use components which are manufactured as cheaply as possible. After which you need to compensate for all of the problems created by those components in your operating system. Which is part of the reason why Windows PCs have had so many problems over the years (and why Microsoft has taken a long time to develop new versions of their OS which are backwards compatible with all of the crap hardware which has been used in PCs in the past).
  • Accept money from other software companies who want to bundle their crapware with your operating system. Sorry, but I'm not interested in having to uninstall a bunch of bloatware/adware which came with my PC.
  • Outsource a good chunk of your software and hardware engineering to areas of the world where labour is cheaper.

All of which Apple is not willing to do as they tend to negatively affect the positive experience Apple has worked very hard to create with their software and hardware.
 
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post #76 of 101
PMZ needs to get on the PMS meds..

The hackintosh community isnt going anywhere, simple as that. You know there will be a work around for 10.6.2 by the end of this week for netbooks.

Everyone loves to hate the Atom but fact of the matter is the shit works and quite well. For content consumption a netbook works remarkably well (and i own a Dell Mini 10v hackintosh) but thats about the extent of it. Your not gonna plow through Final Cut or Photoshop...your telling me Apple cant find a market for this?

Everyone loves to act like a fucking snob here because they think owning anything Mac puts them in some elite class but simply put Apple COULD make a netbook and price it aggressively at 499 or 549 (that is well above the average 299 netbook and that provides that glorious apple tax apple likes to rape consumers on and mac users love to spout on about). Maybe this is some kind of segment the Tablet is going after? Still we know that with an iphone at the price of 499 itself it isnt going to be cheap and probably will be astronomical.

Anyways look at it without bias. You sell a mobile PC for 499, it isnt customizable (1.6ghz Atom, 120GB HD, 2GB RAM, No optical drives, decent display) and people love it. Say they then go on to buy another computer that does more, if they had a great experience on the mac they will most likely GO BACK...its not that hard of a concept to grasp.
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Originally Posted by DESuserIGN View Post

While I'm sure Apple is keeping options open in their internal work work on OS X (as they maintained working x86 builds for many years before they went intel) how is it that people keep saying that they have **dropped support for** Atom processors?
Apple has never **been supporting** Atom processors and they continue not to support them. Any notion to the contrary is simply delusional.
Duh!

There never was any real code to "support" Atom. Atom runs any OS that uses x86 code (assuming the chipset drivers are compatible). This is actually Apple doing some kind of CPU sniffing and nuking the OS if it finds Atom. So it's not a matter of removing code to "drop support" so much as adding code to search and destroy. What can be added can be stripped out. I doubt this will last more than a few weeks at most.

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I disagree - I think Apple cutoff support to cutoff the Netbooks. I don't blame them and applaud them for protecting what is theirs. How could they let this slide while Psystar is out there stealing from them and they are fighting it in court. The quicker the get rid of Psystar the faster they will be able to concentrate on the real paying customers (and before someone says it- no buying an OS that is supposed to be for an upgrade is not the same - just cause some don't agree EULA does not mean that was not Apple's intent in selling it with those conditions attached).

Uh, do you realize that Atom and netbooks have nothing to do with Psystar? Psystar not only doesn't make netbooks, they don't sell any laptops whatsoever, Atom-powered or otherwise.
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I'm new here but have hackintoshed my computer a while back and have to admit it took a lot of work to get one up and running. It ran smoothly with a few quirks which is why I change to 7 (the mac-ish vista service pack 3 IMO) even though I didn't want to.

I believe Apple meant to disable Atom and they were right in doing so. If they open the OS up to everyone, then apple-geared viruses will startup full time and I don't think it's ready for that. Making hackintoshes (and pyslar whatever) inconvenient alternatives is important to cripple hackers therefore, apple can buy itself more time to strengthen the OS security. Hackintoshing requires quite a bit of skill because you need to know the inner workings of the OS aka "hackers' territory".

I've been slowly saving up for either the Macbook pro or the tablet and can't wait to switch!
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I believe Apple meant to disable Atom and they were right in doing so. If they open the OS up to everyone, then apple-geared viruses will startup full time and I don't think it's ready for that. Making hackintoshes (and pyslar whatever) inconvenient alternatives is important to cripple hackers therefore, apple can buy itself more time to strengthen the OS security.

That's completely wrong. Whether OS X is running on Apple hardware or not has absolutely no bearing on the presence or absence of malware.
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Everyone loves to act like a fucking snob here because they think owning anything Mac puts them in some elite class but simply put Apple COULD make a netbook and price it aggressively at 499 or 549 (that is well above the average 299 netbook and that provides that glorious apple tax apple likes to rape consumers on and mac users love to spout on about).

I want to live in a world where software and hardware designers are paid as little as possible so that we can all have the cheapest computers. Not to mention zero innovation because it's much cheaper to just copy what's already been done than to invest in R&D for new products (ala the multitude of iPhone knockoffs).

I'm not saying that the "Apple tax" completely goes into hiring highly skilled engineers and R&D, but I'd be willing to bet a good chunk of it does when you take a look at Apple's track record of products in the past 10 years (as compared to competitors like Dell/Acer/Microsoft).

I'm not a mindless company supporter... I simply like to support whoever I think is taking technology in the direction which is best in my eyes. And right now, for me, that's Apple. I think a lot of other people working in the tech industry would agree.

However, if/when Apple goes in the direction of the technology lock-in game (Microsoft's business model) and/or only feeding the shareholders with minimal R&D investment (as they did in the 90s) then I'll switch to supporting someone else.
 
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