Intel Atom support officially missing from Mac OS X 10.6.2 - Page 2

Originally Posted by DocNo42

Mini towers, while I wouldn't mind a small one or two slot Mac mini tower, I don't think they are ever gong to do it. The new i7 iMac's just about put a nail in that coffin.

Originally Posted by mrr

Ok Apple, I get it. No more hackintoshes because you are hacked.

We are hacked too, because people REALLY do want NETBOOKS - not oversized iPhone iTablets.

The least you can do is give us a 10" MacBook Air !

Originally Posted by MacTripper

Is Apple going down the Microsoft road of insecure/buggy OS in order to cause updates and breaking of hackintoshes?

Originally Posted by AeronPrometheus

The question to that is, why did they not also cut out the code for Centrinos? or Pentiums?

Originally Posted by tawilson

LOL. Noob!
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The CPUs initially started out as Pentiums (4s I think)

Originally Posted by guytoronto

Before you start calling others "Noob", you should make sure you know what you are talking about.

What CPUs started out as Pentium 4s? The Pentium 4? What about the Pentium 3, Pentium 2, and original Pentium? Don't forget the Pentium MMX or Pentium Pro. You could throw the Pentium 2 Xeon and Pentium 3 Xeon into the mix as well if you like.

Originally Posted by womble2k2

Can someone post the support notes of a release of OS X which did officially support Atom. As far as I am aware, no release has ever officially supported it as there are no Atom bases Apple products.

I think people get confused between 'officially supporting' and 'able to run on'. The fact that previous releases of OS X have run on Atom processors is not Apple officially supporting the processor.

Originally Posted by myapplelove

the atom is the crappiest cpu on the market, via included.
That said its very obvious most of them are doing a diservice to themselves by not buying a superior apple products. Although with most of these computer modders/geek guys it's much less of an actual attempt to get a working computer to get their job done and more of a perennial moding/testing thing, a sexual thing really, subverted.

Originally Posted by MacTel

Yes, I know the Mini and Macbook can hook-up to HDTV. I've heard it plenty of times. There are many converter cables but I like the simplicity of one cable. That is especially important on such a small device where every bit of real estate is precious. On at least the Dell Mini Netbook there's no optical drive but there's an SD card (sound familiar?).

I'm talking about Apple missing the netbook boat. Windows 7, even the starter edition on netbooks, is a good OS. Is it as good as OSX? I my opinion not quite but pretty close. Hopefully Apple will distance themselves from Windows 7 in the next OSX release.

So for a $349 base price I can do what the Mini can and have a keyboard, glidepad (mouse essentially), and a monitor for $250 less. I could almost buy two of them. And the Mini is visually more appealing.

The cons of the Mini are that it feels cheap on the glidepad, there's no optical drive (that's extra), and Dell clutters up the display with their own Mac OSX dock rip off. Other than that it is a rocking system. Apple only needs to introduce their own at $599 with similar specs and they'd sell like hotcakes. Why they don't make netbooks, mini towers, blades etc is anyone's guess. They feel they don't need to but maybe they would be in the top 5 computer manufacturers in the world if they did.

I'm still a Mac OSX fan and will always be but I'm also a Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony, RIM, and HP fan when they make good products too.

Originally Posted by tawilson

LOL. Noob!

Centrino is the brand name for the Mobo+CPU+GPU+WiFi combo provided by Intel. The CPUs initially started out as Pentiums (4s I think), but Centrino actually includes whatever the current generation of CPUs happen to be.

Originally Posted by solipsism

Of course, the Software Updater is grabbing the package for your particular machine so it’s significantly smaller. It won’t work for any other machine.




1) Cutting off netbooks does not cut off the Hackintosh community, which can use non-Atom Intel and AMD processors

2) Cutting off Atom support at 10.6.2 to supress the Hackintosh community makes no sense because there aren’t wanting by staying with 10.6.1.

3) If they were going cut off the Hackintosh community they would have done it at a major update and in a way that it makes it harder for all non-Mac HW to run Mac OS X.

Everything else is irrational.

Originally Posted by MacTel

Yes, I know the Mini and Macbook can hook-up to HDTV. I've heard it plenty of times. There are many converter cables but I like the simplicity of one cable. That is especially important on such a small device where every bit of real estate is precious. On at least the Dell Mini Netbook there's no optical drive but there's an SD card (sound familiar?).

I'm talking about Apple missing the netbook boat. Windows 7, even the starter edition on netbooks, is a good OS. Is it as good as OSX? I my opinion not quite but pretty close. Hopefully Apple will distance themselves from Windows 7 in the next OSX release.

So for a $349 base price I can do what the Mini can and have a keyboard, glidepad (mouse essentially), and a monitor for $250 less. I could almost buy two of them. And the Mini is visually more appealing.

The cons of the Mini are that it feels cheap on the glidepad, there's no optical drive (that's extra), and Dell clutters up the display with their own Mac OSX dock rip off. Other than that it is a rocking system. Apple only needs to introduce their own at $599 with similar specs and they'd sell like hotcakes. Why they don't make netbooks, mini towers, blades etc is anyone's guess. They feel they don't need to but maybe they would be in the top 5 computer manufacturers in the world if they did.

I'm still a Mac OSX fan and will always be but I'm also a Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony, RIM, and HP fan when they make good products too.

Originally Posted by pmz

No sorry genius, not everything else is irrational. For most people, this is it. As soon as the OS can by updated anymore, the game is over.

Guess what? The game is over. The non-factor, non-market, non-interesting Netbooks can now be even LESS interesting than they were yesterday, if that's even possible.

Originally Posted by DJRumpy

If they compete with an Apple product, be that unreleased, or the tablet, or whatever, then I could understand Apple's move. Even if Apple doesn't release a netbook, I could see the hackintosh creating uneeded competition if they are installing it on netbooks. Hardware which could potentially compete with a tablet.

Everyone is totally guessing at this point. Makes no difference to me. I have no hackintoshes, and I don't see any value in a netbook.

Originally Posted by pmz

Here's the thing. Hackintosh netbooks, regardless of what the dorks tell you, are for DORKS-only.

They are NOT, NOT, NOT a consumer-oriented, entry-level MacBook. This bogus theory that many people try to tout, that, "Someone considering their first Mac, but unsure about diving in with both feet, (a.k.a: ponying up a thousand bucks) might buy a $350-450 dollar netbook, and "buy" a $130 retail copy of Mac OSX, and create themselves a $580 entry level Mac.".....is absolutely ridiculous.

Someone who cannot yet bring themselves to spend $1000 on a Mac, is certainly not going to spend half that, over $500, on a product that is critically handicapped, and completely unsupported. Yeah, try telling your mom that you're getting her a $500 Mac, but there won't be any customer service available, not anywhere. Not from Dell, not from Apple, and not from you unless you're around with your Leopard DVD.

What a joke. Its stunning how arrogant and uninformed Mac users are.

Originally Posted by DJRumpy

I don't know what it is about AI, but too many of the folks on here are rude as hell. You could have said as much without being so inflammatory. I happen to agree with your sentiment, but not with your style of reply. Would you want to be spoken to in such a way?

I really wish there was a better moderation system with real teeth in place here.

Originally Posted by DJRumpy

I don't know what it is about AI, but too many of the folks on here are rude as hell. You could have said as much without being so inflammatory. I happen to agree with your sentiment, but not with your style of reply. Would you want to be spoken to in such a way?

I really wish there was a better moderation system with real teeth in place here.

Originally Posted by teckstud

I know - it used to be a such a civil place on here when I first started and then it became so polarizing once Apple stopped selling matte screens and Windows 7 became a hit.

Originally Posted by DJRumpy

I don't know what it is about AI, but too many of the folks on here are rude as hell. You could have said as much without being so inflammatory. I happen to agree with your sentiment, but not with your style of reply. Would you want to be spoken to in such a way?

I really wish there was a better moderation system with real teeth in place here.

Originally Posted by DJRumpy

How is Windows 7 doing by the way? I know they said initial sales were strong. I've been running it for about a year on bootcamp. It's done fine for the most part, but one of my Macbooks is starting to show signs of sluggish boot, and a slammed CPU on startup that was so common under XP, and pervasive under Vista.

Originally Posted by drjjones

anyone have any help on how to get back my recordings ?

Originally Posted by Gazoobee

I don't agree. As someone who's often painted with that same "rudeness" brush (mostly undeserved), I don't think this post stands out as especially rude except perhaps the first and last sentences. The meat of what is being said here is true and is simply stated.

Even so, "beating up" on a other posters for making stupid or unintelligible remarks is negative, but not necessarily "bad" IMO. If people are not corrected, they won't ever learn. This isn't a self esteem society, it's a debating area.

I find the constant non-sequitors by actors like teckstud, and the constant crap-stream from people who just come here to drop one liners about how they hate Apple to be far "ruder." They also have the failing of being completely un-constructive, uninformative, and useless in almost every way. They make other people angry, without contributing anything at all.

Anyone who's actually trying to say something and can be engaged in a debate is already worthwhile IMO however rude they may get. If they are also "nice" at least some of the time, well, then I guess that makes them human, you know? No one is nice all the time.

Originally Posted by DJRumpy

The only 'market' there is for people who put together home built PC's for dirt cheap, meaning there's no profit for Apple. Makes sense for them to prevent hackintosh from a business perspective. I would guesstimate that a large portion of that community probably didn't even bother to buy OS X, but downloaded it via Torrent.

Originally Posted by dcolley

I heard that box sales of Windows 7 have done very well, but I'm also hearing that system sales with Windows 7 not so much. That's not going to save the PC industry.

Originally Posted by pmz

Good god, this again? There is no netbook "boat". Never was, never will be. Its more of a rounding error than anything else. If people want a Mac, they can buy a Mac. I'm tired of people passing off P.O.S. netbooks as if they are a legitimate alternative to get started with OSX. They're not legitimate, nor a GOOD OSX experience. I would never recommend one to anyone, and no one seriously considering buying a Mac would ever opt for such a piece of crap.

Oh, right, except the current Mac user that has 4 pieces of hardware he's bored with, so he wastes some money on a Dell just so he can hack it and feel better for a few hours. Great.

Originally Posted by pmz

No sorry genius, not everything else is irrational. This might be the most useless post in this entire thread. Its certainly the only one to suggest that this wasn't intentional on Apple's part. LOL, wow w.a.f.i. For most people, this is it. As soon as the OS can't by updated anymore, the game is over.

Originally Posted by MacTel

So for a $349 base price I can do what the Mini can and have a keyboard, glidepad (mouse essentially), and a monitor for $250 less. I could almost buy two of them. And the Mini is visually more appealing.

Originally Posted by freelander51

I have an iBook, MacBook, AppleTV, iPhone, TimeCapsule, mobileMe, iPods and iMac from Apple. So I know their quality and longlievity.

I do have a Hackintosh too. And guess what ? I like it. Its small, its light, its (replaceable) battery [not that I acre] lasts 5.5 - 6 hours for the basic things that i do most of the day with a/any PC. Write mails, work, internet browsing, content sharing.

No it is not for content creation. But plugging in a camera and uploading the pics to facebook and mobileMe works a treat. Now why on earth would I wanna do that with a windows machine, given the rest of my config

Originally Posted by DJRumpy

Anyone else finding the size of this update to be substantially less than the 400 MB? On all 4 of my Mac's, it's coming in at 200 MB or so.

Originally Posted by solipsism

They would like be in the top 5 but how much would it increase their value as a company if they are now selling Macs with razor thin margins? How would it hurt the long term value of the Mac brand if they sold Macs that compete with the cheaply built netbooks? Could Apple even compete with these cheap machines without resorting to selling out to 3rd-party vendors by loading crapware on the systems?

Originally Posted by DESuserIGN

While I'm sure Apple is keeping options open in their internal work work on OS X (as they maintained working x86 builds for many years before they went intel) how is it that people keep saying that they have **dropped support for** Atom processors?
Apple has never **been supporting** Atom processors and they continue not to support them. Any notion to the contrary is simply delusional.
Duh!

Originally Posted by Damn_Its_Hot

I disagree - I think Apple cutoff support to cutoff the Netbooks. I don't blame them and applaud them for protecting what is theirs. How could they let this slide while Psystar is out there stealing from them and they are fighting it in court. The quicker the get rid of Psystar the faster they will be able to concentrate on the real paying customers (and before someone says it- no buying an OS that is supposed to be for an upgrade is not the same - just cause some don't agree EULA does not mean that was not Apple's intent in selling it with those conditions attached).

Originally Posted by jon111122223333

I believe Apple meant to disable Atom and they were right in doing so. If they open the OS up to everyone, then apple-geared viruses will startup full time and I don't think it's ready for that. Making hackintoshes (and pyslar whatever) inconvenient alternatives is important to cripple hackers therefore, apple can buy itself more time to strengthen the OS security.

Originally Posted by ifail

Everyone loves to act like a fucking snob here because they think owning anything Mac puts them in some elite class but simply put Apple COULD make a netbook and price it aggressively at 499 or 549 (that is well above the average 299 netbook and that provides that glorious apple tax apple likes to rape consumers on and mac users love to spout on about).