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post #201 of 261
11/10/09 at 1:19pm
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post #202 of 261
11/10/09 at 1:20pm
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I see nothing to be torn about. This is the first time I can recall that a free standard with capacities and features that current displays cant even come close to handling is being offered. On top of that, its the same exact connect on every single Mac, not a variation of port interfaces and different capabilities. This is a good thing.

How about the fact that when standards change there are incompatibilities and, at the very least, the hassle of physical adapters?

It's obvious how you feel about the tradeoff of moving to a new standard, but come on! Shouldn't you at least recognize that it's a tradeoff?

For instance, I'm not a gamer nor a college student. But imagine for a second their situation. They just bought a new iMac for school and yet they just can't plug in their cable box or Wii. Instead, they have to research the situation and buy additional equipment.
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post #203 of 261
11/10/09 at 1:28pm
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My point is that as long as your stuff is good, you won't have to think about it. New models with those standards will be around for years.

But at some time, when you need something new, you'll have gotten your money's worth from it, and it will be time to move on.

But I did have to think about it, every single damn time I put in a DVD. The PS3 would switch to 480p instead of staying in 1080i. And of course this meant that the projector had to search for like 15 seconds to find and sync to the the video signal. Same thing on returning to the PS3 main menu. Accidentally hit play from the menu or stop from the movie? Better be prepared to wait for that re-sync.

It was so maddening that I opened up my remote control and disabled the stop button.

While our current equipment will obviously keep working (no need to point that out), the fact remains that in order to make a single component upgrade, it was necessary to trash all existing equipment and upgrade the entire system.

This is a concern that shouldn't be dismissed when discussing A/V interconnect standards. I'm not suggesting that display port is bad, or that we shouldn't switch. But rather that there are trade-offs involved. Compatibility with current equipment is a valid concern... even though that equipment still works today.
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post #204 of 261
11/10/09 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by rcfa View Post

All of these new connectors may be cute, but certainly not professional.

A professional connector is positively LOCKING in place.
Think XLR connectors, think ethernet connector, DVI, heck even a old VGA port had screws that KEEP things IN PLACE.

By comparison there's constant issues with lose FW cables, lose mini-USB plugs, and now we'll likely get ever more fragile.

You can't have a professional production environment if you have to worry about someone bumping into your equipment and connectivity goes ape shit.

I wish Apple would pay as much attention to these things to compact and sexy ID.
I don't care if it's thumb screws, clips, hooks, latches, BNC connectors, magnets or whatever, but a cable has to be designed to stay put and securely connected. The current crop of cute and small connectors just doesn't cut it.

I agree with problems about locking. Apple used to have special connectors that were the same as far as physical connections were concerned, but had edges that locked. Much better, but not standard.

Sadly, industry is moving that way. Locking connectors take up more room, and cost more. All of which is anathema to consumers, and today, except in high end commercial use, consumer standards rule.
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post #205 of 261
11/10/09 at 1:41pm
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But I did have to think about it, every single damn time I put in a DVD. The PS3 would switch to 480p instead of staying in 1080i. And of course this meant that the projector had to search for like 15 seconds to find and sync to the the video signal. Same thing on returning to the PS3 main menu. Accidentally hit play from the menu or stop from the movie? Better be prepared to wait for that re-sync.

It was so maddening that I opened up my remote control and disabled the stop button.

That's a different problem though. I have problems like that from my DVr cable box to my HDTV. Handshaking isn't as good as it should be. I get a message when I turn the unit on, or am changing channels, about how it doesn't recognize this or that, but then works.

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While our current equipment will obviously keep working (no need to point that out), the fact remains that in order to make a single component upgrade, it was necessary to trash all existing equipment and upgrade the entire system.

This is a concern that shouldn't be dismissed when discussing A/V interconnect standards. I'm not suggesting that display port is bad, or that we shouldn't switch. But rather that there are trade-offs involved. Compatibility with current equipment is a valid concern... even though that equipment still works today.

It's not that I don't have empathy for you here, because I do, but technology marches on. I've wired my entire house with1Gb/s Ethernet. I'd like to move to 10 Gb/s when it becomes more common. What a pain (literally) that will be! But that's the way it is.
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post #206 of 261
11/10/09 at 1:45pm
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Originally Posted by dfiler View Post

They just bought a new iMac for school and yet they just can't plug in their cable box or Wii. Instead, they have to research the situation and buy additional equipment.

Assuming you are talking about the DP input on the 27 iMac, Im not following. How were they able to do this before but not now? If you are talking about the DP output, all Macs with DP can output video to HDMI/DVI monitors and HDTVs.


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I agree with problems about locking.

As I recall, DP has specs for optional locking.
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post #207 of 261
11/10/09 at 1:50pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

As I recall, DP has specs for optional locking.

The wikipedia entry shows a cable that looks like has a latch with button release. I don't see how that would work with mini DisplayPort.
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post #208 of 261
11/10/09 at 2:01pm
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

No- you're the one misinformed. Is it 7.1?

Yes. Up to 8 channel 24 bit linear PCM @ 6.144 Mbit/s bit rate uncompressed is the spec.

Which you would know if you could Google "display port" and "audio".
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post #209 of 261
11/10/09 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by vinea View Post

Yes. Up to 8 channel 24 bit linear PCM @ 6.144 Mbit/s bit rate uncompressed is the spec.

Which you would know if you could Google "display port" and "audio".

But who has the time, vinea!
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post #210 of 261
11/10/09 at 2:05pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

As I recall, DP has specs for optional locking.

And you know what that means.
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post #211 of 261
11/10/09 at 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post

The wikipedia entry shows a cable that looks like has a latching cable with button release. I don't see how that would work with mini DisplayPort.

The biggest suckiness of both HDMI and mDP is that there isn't a latching or other method of securing the cable other than friction. I've had HDMI pull out from a long heavy cable up to the projector.
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post #212 of 261
11/10/09 at 2:12pm
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Originally Posted by ljocampo View Post

You're right but I think a display without audio capabilities, even if it wasn't necessary for a particular task, is myopic. Today's small cost of built-in audio in a display should never limit the product's market versatility.

No need to limit it, which is why it's optional in the spec. I think it would be wise for Apple to start using the audio spec, while leaving it up to the Display manufacturer's as to whether or not to use the audio signal.

Blindly saying everyone should require it, even if they don't need it is just wasteful and not necessarily a good thing for the consumer. The fact that the audio piece is in the spec is a good thing.
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post #213 of 261
11/10/09 at 2:14pm
Wow this was a really poor thread with regard to technical info or at least some supporting their statements with a few facts.

We have the "usual suspects" that seem to take every topic that has anything to do with display technology and the Blu-ray or TV angle.

As one poster said before.

DisplayPort = Computer display.

HDMI- Consumer Electronics display


HDMI goes up to 4k at video refresh rates ( < 30 fps)
DP needs to handle 4k display of static images (meaning > 30fps)

Meaning they will

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post #214 of 261
11/10/09 at 2:16pm
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Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post

Wow this was a really poor thread with regard to technical info or at least some supporting their statements with a few facts.

We have the "usual suspects" that seem to take every topic that has anything to do with display technology and the Blu-ray or TV angle.

As one poster said before.

DisplayPort = Computer display.

HDMI- Consumer Electronics display


HDMI goes up to 4k at video refresh rates ( < 30 fps)
DP needs to handle 4k display of static images (meaning > 30fps)

Meaning they will


Not to belabor the point, but you do realize that a movie is just a bunch of static images in a series right?

In the end, it all comes down to throughput.
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post #215 of 261
11/10/09 at 2:17pm
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Originally Posted by vinea View Post

Yes. Up to 8 channel 24 bit linear PCM @ 6.144 Mbit/s bit rate uncompressed is the spec.

Which you would know if you could Google "display port" and "audio".

It’s even been stated in this very thread if he cared indulge in any sort of reading comprehension.


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And you know what that means.

Besides it being optional, it also means that very few devices will use it and you’ll pay a premium for cables with the latch, if you can find them.

Here is one from Newegg…

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812270242
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The biggest suckiness of both HDMI and mDP is that there isn't a latching or other method of securing the cable other than friction. I've had HDMI pull out from a long heavy cable up to the projector.

HDMI has optional latching, but I am not seeing it for mDP.

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http://www.displayport.org/cms/?q=co...mance-standard
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post #216 of 261
11/10/09 at 2:21pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

It’s even been stated in this very thread if he cared indulge in any sort of reading comprehension.



Besides it being optional, it also means that very few devices will use it and you’ll pay a premium for cables with the latch, if you can find them.

Here is one from Newegg…

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812270242

HDMI has optional latching, but I am not seeing it for mDP.

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http://www.displayport.org/cms/?q=co...mance-standard

I wonder why they just don't implement the magnetic latching? I absolutely LOVE that feature on a power cord.
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post #217 of 261
11/10/09 at 2:24pm
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Originally Posted by DJRumpy View Post

No need to limit it, which is why it's optional in the spec. I think it would be wise for Apple to start using the audio spec, while leaving it up to the Display manufacturer's as to whether or not to use the audio signal.

Blindly saying everyone should require it, even if they don't need it is just wasteful and not necessarily a good thing for the consumer. The fact that the audio piece is in the spec is a good thing.

Its too bad they didnt use it in the 24 LED Apple Display. Instead you have to use USB. Obviously they have their reasons but what it is I cant guess.


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As one poster said before.

DisplayPort = Computer display.

HDMI- Consumer Electronics display

CE doesnt often excludes PCs anymore. It might be more accurate to refer to these devices as consumer electronic appliances. Personally, I dont care as I understand the context given, but Im sure someone will pedantically and vehemently take issue with it.
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post #218 of 261
11/10/09 at 2:29pm
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It’s too bad they didn’t use it in the 24” LED Apple Display. Instead you have to use USB. Obviously they have their reasons but what it is I can’t guess.




CE doesn’t often excludes PCs anymore. It might be more accurate to refer to these devices as consumer electronic appliances. Personally, I don’t care as I understand the context given, but I’m sure someone will pedantically and vehemently take issue with it.

Agreed. I can't imagine why, especially if it was designed by their own shop. You would think they'd want to showcase it properly.

Ditto on the CE bit...
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post #219 of 261
11/10/09 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Besides it being optional, it also means that very few devices will use it and youll pay a premium for cables with the latch, if you can find them.

Here is one from Newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812270242

HDMI has optional latching, but I am not seeing it for mDP.
http://www.displayport.org/cms/?q=co...mance-standard

Yup, that's what will happen.

If you want something to be used, you can't make it optional.
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post #220 of 261
11/10/09 at 2:50pm
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Originally Posted by melgross

It will be as long lived as your equipment is. When you buy new stuff, you won't care.

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My point is that as long as your stuff is good, you won't have to think about it.

Are these comments related to the proposed gelding?
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post #221 of 261
11/10/09 at 2:52pm
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Are these comments related to the proposed gelding?

Er, ...
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post #222 of 261
11/10/09 at 4:43pm
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Originally Posted by DJRumpy View Post

No need to limit it, which is why it's optional in the spec. I think it would be wise for Apple to start using the audio spec, while leaving it up to the Display manufacturer's as to whether or not to use the audio signal.

I agree with most of this statement. However, I agree more with Melgross that optional in a spec means it won't be used.

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Originally Posted by DJRumpy View Post

Blindly saying everyone should require it, even if they don't need it is just wasteful and not necessarily a good thing for the consumer. The fact that the audio piece is in the spec is a good thing.

I'll have to disagree here. Blindly... is not the same as myopic. Apple has always added future or advanced technology, not currently needed, as a forward looking policy. Gigibit ethernet, bluetooth, and n-draft WiFI comes to mind. As I stated, the cost is minimal in volume, so IMO it is more beneficial to the consumer, in the long run, to have the display audio option onboard.

What is wasteful, on Apple's part, is having an mDP connection in a 27" iMac and not implementing the I/O audio portion of the DP spec in its hardware at market release.
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post #223 of 261
11/10/09 at 5:31pm
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Originally Posted by ljocampo View Post

I agree with most of this statement. However, I agree more with Melgross that optional in a spec means it won't be used.



I'll have to disagree here. Blindly... is not the same as myopic. Apple has always added future or advanced technology, not currently needed, as a forward looking policy. Gigibit ethernet, bluetooth, and n-draft WiFI comes to mind. As I stated, the cost is minimal in volume, so IMO it is more beneficial to the consumer, in the long run, to have the display audio option onboard.

What is wasteful, on Apple's part, is having an mDP connection in a 27" iMac and not implementing the I/O audio portion of the DP spec in its hardware at market release.

How do you know what the cost is? I haven't seen any data as to the difference between a bare connector and one that handles audio. Even if it is cheap, especially when you manufacture in volume, minimal costs tend to add up. Requiring a display maker to use a more complex adapter for audio that it doesn't even support is just silly.

If it was really that simple and cheap, why wouldn't they be using it already?

The market will decide things like this. If there is a demand for it, manufacturers will offer it.
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post #224 of 261
11/10/09 at 6:29pm
Full-sized DVI, mini-DVI, micro-DVI and now mini display port... I'm getting sick of buying all those adapters, Apple!

But I think Apple is wasting its time with mini display port. Next year Light Peak will be out and as long as Intel doesn't stuff it up, it will replace a multitude of connectors, including display port and HDMI.
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11/10/09 at 7:13pm
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Full-sized DVI, mini-DVI, micro-DVI and now mini display port... I'm getting sick of buying all those adapters, Apple!

But I think Apple is wasting its time with mini display port. Next year Light Peak will be out and as long as Intel doesn't stuff it up, it will replace a multitude of connectors, including display port and HDMI.

Expected to be available at the end of 2010. I wouldn't expect it to have any significant traction until two or three years later. Adoption doesn't happen overnight.

Chances are, Intel won't be releasing it as a royalty free connector either, meaning takeup will most likely be even slower until technology advances to the point where adoption of a faster technology is no longer an option.
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post #226 of 261
11/10/09 at 7:20pm
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Nonsense! Are you paying attention to anything here? You seem to be living in a bubble. When ALL ATI 58xx cards have DP outputs, including the cheap ones, how can you say that it's just a professional tool? How about all those $700 Dell computers? There are others as well.

ATI and Nvidia both go DUAL DVI and HDMI but ATI also adds a display port. Looks like the larger Dell monitors 27-30" provide a display port while below is HDMI and DVI only.
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11/10/09 at 10:30pm
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But I think Apple is wasting its time with mini display port. Next year Light Peak will be out and as long as Intel doesn't stuff it up, it will replace a multitude of connectors, including display port and HDMI.

I agree. Light Peak has the potential to do away with every peripheral port now in use. In a couple of years, say goodbye to USB, Firewire, DVI, VGA and all the rest. I can't wait to see all of the adapters for Light Peak.
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post #228 of 261
11/11/09 at 1:02am
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

HDMI is better- more universal.

Display Port and now Mini Display port are now standards. PC's will start using them over HDMI so in a few years, you'll be saying the same thing about Display Port.
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post #229 of 261
11/11/09 at 1:51am
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How do you know what the cost is? I haven't seen any data as to the difference between a bare connector and one that handles audio. Even if it is cheap, especially when you manufacture in volume, minimal costs tend to add up. Requiring a display maker to use a more complex adapter for audio that it doesn't even support is just silly.

Sure I don't have the cost figures, but if you can give away an FM radio free as a marketing ploy, I'd venture to guess what we're talking about is dirt cheap. It's surely doable within Apple's premium margins.

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If it was really that simple and cheap, why wouldn't they be using it already?

Profit & Greed pure and simple. Companies that are selling cheap goods to get the most profit from their consumers will not give you anything extra. That's why I think the PD spec shouldn't be optional.

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The market will decide things like this. If there is a demand for it, manufacturers will offer it.

Your right about this. Apple is the prime example. It gives more for the money, even when you don't need it just yet, and its customers are brand loyal willing to pay more.
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post #230 of 261
11/11/09 at 7:33am
I've just had a shouting match with a 'Specialist' at my local AppleStore, informing him that he and his team of 'Geniuses' were wrong - the Mini DisplayPort IS capable of driving 30" Cinema Displays.

According to him, and his Genius mates, Apple doesn't officially support the 30" Cinema Display via Mini Display Port on the original aluminum MacBooks or mDP enabled Mac minis. According to him, the only machine capable of supporting a 30" Cinema Display via Mini DisplayPort is the aluminium MacBook Pro, and the new plastic unibody MacBooks and the latest version of the Mac mini. He didn't have an answer as to why I was experiencing problems with my MacBook Pro as well.

When I showed him the specs on Apple's website, he informed me that the Apple website had nothing to do with the Apple Retail Store I was standing in, and that he couldn't comment on the content of the website. Convenient.

It's interesting that the ProCare mambership that I purchased has also been fuckall use to me - it took the store 72 hours (so much for 'First on bench') to get back to me explaining that they couldn't find a fault with my 30" Cinema Display, even when I provided them with two video clips of the problem occuring.

So the moral of the story is that even if Apple will say that something will work, chances are it won't, and when you tackle them, they'll deny they even said it in the first place even when you present them with evidence to the contrary. So much for Apple coming first in Customer Support.

Oh, and ProCare is a REAL waste of money!
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11/11/09 at 7:36am
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I've just had a shouting match with a 'Specialist' at my local AppleStore, informing him that he and his team of 'Geniuses' were wrong - the Mini DisplayPort IS capable of driving 30" Cinema Displays.

According to him, and his Genius mates, Apple doesn't officially support the 30" Cinema Display via Mini Display Port on the original aluminum MacBooks or mDP enabled Mac minis. According to him, the only machine capable of supporting a 30" Cinema Display via Mini DisplayPort is the aluminium MacBook Pro, and the new plastic unibody MacBooks and the latest version of the Mac mini. He didn't have an answer as to why I was experiencing problems with my MacBook Pro as well.

When I showed him the specs on Apple's website, he informed me that the Apple website had nothing to do with the Apple Retail Store I was standing in, and that he couldn't comment on the content of the website. Convenient.

It's interesting that the ProCare mambership that I purchased has also been fuckall use to me - it took the store 72 hours (so much for 'First on bench') to get back to me explaining that they couldn't find a fault with my 30" Cinema Display, even when I provided them with two video clips of the problem occuring.

So the moral of the story is that even if Apple will say that something will work, chances are it won't, and when you tackle them, they'll deny they even said it in the first place even when you present them with evidence to the contrary. So much for Apple coming first in Customer Support.

Oh, and ProCare is a REAL waste of money!

Did you ask him to show you this official statement from Apple? The guy sounds like a douche. Unless he can show you something documented from Apple showing this limitation, then I would pursue this with corporate.
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11/11/09 at 7:51am
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its also lower resolution

Umm, HDMI can most certainly achieve higher resolutions than 1920x1080.

That said, HDMI really isn't meant for a computer --> monitor configuration, IMO. The only real benefit of HDMI with computers is if you're looking to hook up your machine to an HDTV, as HDMI beats VGA hands down any day.
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11/11/09 at 8:19am
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Originally Posted by vinea View Post

The biggest suckiness of both HDMI and mDP is that there isn't a latching or other method of securing the cable other than friction. I've had HDMI pull out from a long heavy cable up to the projector.

I've managed to make it work without problems, but I support the cable in a way that there isn't much of a net force.

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Did you ask him to show you this official statement from Apple? The guy sounds like a douche. Unless he can show you something documented from Apple showing this limitation, then I would pursue this with corporate.

Apple doesn't seem to acknowledge problems with the mDP adapter to 30" displays. I haven't seen anyone say that it works fine for them. Both products are of their own brand, I don't understand why it's a problem.
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11/11/09 at 11:53am
One of the goals of standards is that they make things "just work" together.

If you need adapters, as you do with all of Apple's connectors, then, in the real world, it's not a standard, regardless of whatever bits of paper VESA sign.

HDMI may be technically inferior, but I'd like to see the stats on how many useful HDMI devices Mac owners have in their houses compared to mini-DisplayPort. I bet it's a million to one, minimum.

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11/11/09 at 12:51pm
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Originally Posted by DJRumpy View Post

How do you know what the cost is? I haven't seen any data as to the difference between a bare connector and one that handles audio. Even if it is cheap, especially when you manufacture in volume, minimal costs tend to add up. Requiring a display maker to use a more complex adapter for audio that it doesn't even support is just silly.

If it was really that simple and cheap, why wouldn't they be using it already?

The market will decide things like this. If there is a demand for it, manufacturers will offer it.

History has shown that if something isn't built-in, if won't become popular.

Most people won't even know what it is. It's go to be standardized. It's got to be available to everyone. It's got to be in all machines. Everything must work "out of the box".

Anytime you don't follow the rules, you are taking a big chance.
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post #236 of 261
11/11/09 at 12:54pm
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ATI and Nvidia both go DUAL DVI and HDMI but ATI also adds a display port. Looks like the larger Dell monitors 27-30" provide a display port while below is HDMI and DVI only.

We've already had people show that it isn't true.

http://www.google.com/search?client=...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

24" monitors that cost a bit over $400 aren't exactly professional.

Why don't you check these things out first?

Displayport has one big advantage over other ports. Monitors will cost much less, as most of the electronics in the display isn't needed.

I think that $15 for an adapter vs saving over $100 on the monitor is a pretty good tradeoff.
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post #237 of 261
11/11/09 at 2:47pm
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Displayport has one big advantage over other ports. Monitors will cost much less, as most of the electronics in the display isn't needed.

I think that $15 for an adapter vs saving over $100 on the monitor is a pretty good tradeoff.

Saving a $100 compared to what? Lots of sub $100 devices have ports other than DP. Am I missing something? (honest question)
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post #238 of 261
11/11/09 at 3:02pm
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History has shown that if something isn't built-in, if won't become popular.

Most people won't even know what it is. It's go to be standardized. It's got to be available to everyone. It's got to be in all machines. Everything must work "out of the box".

Anytime you don't follow the rules, you are taking a big chance.

You mean like DTS in a DVD player? It wasn't required, yet it's pretty much standard now in any tuner or dvd player that you buy. I see no reason to require audio be implemented when it's optional in the standard.
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post #239 of 261
11/11/09 at 3:02pm
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Displayport has one big advantage over other ports. Monitors will cost much less, as most of the electronics in the display isn't needed.

I think that $15 for an adapter vs saving over $100 on the monitor is a pretty good tradeoff.

I really doubt that. There are monitors with DVI close to $120 right now. A display-port only version of that isn't going to cost $20.
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post #240 of 261
11/12/09 at 9:06am
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I really doubt that. There are monitors with DVI close to $120 right now. A display-port only version of that isn't going to cost $20.

Doubt it all you like Jeff. That's the fact.

There will always be cheap, older models repackaged to sell for very little.

http://www2.electronicproducts.com/D...2008-html.aspx
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