Microsoft looks to combat Apple globally with Zune content - Page 2

Originally Posted by Alfiejr

only Ballmer could be dumb enough, despite this, to insist on using its tarnished "brand" as the name for the XBox media store. as if anyone over 30 is ever going to use an XBox (ok, there are a few), and as if teens and gamers are going to pay for any media they can get free instead from filesharing ... .

Originally Posted by bokap

We had been an all Apple household since the mid 90's. My 12 year old son wanted a Xbox and I complained about Microsoft but he bought it. It's hooked up to our home theater system, have a Xbox live account, have Mac360 software on my computer and it totally rocks. He just bought Call of Duty which looks fantastic in 1080P, always downloading free games, like he does with my iPhone and his Touch, and loves looking at my iPhoto albums and listening to iTunes on it. Now he is looking forward to Facebook on it when it updates. We all use it for Netflix downloads which for some reason works better on the Xbox than on my Samsung blu ray player. Another benefit it my music cd's sound better on it than on my stand alone cd player. I don't see how Apple Tv can compete with this. It is really a great product with Xbox Live.
Bob

Originally Posted by monstrosity

I'm fairly certain this is not Apple's fault, it's the 'fault' of the studio's who are scared that apple will boss them about.

Originally Posted by monstrosity

It's for keeping doors open and stopping paper from blowing away, I think.

Originally Posted by Quadra 610

1) What's a Zune??

2) Too little, too late.

Originally Posted by lamewing

i'll ignore your sarcasm and act as if your questions are actually valid requests for information.

Too many apple fanboys here like to attack anything non-apple. If that floats your boat...go for it. Nonetheless such drivel makes the real mac users look like arrogant idiots. What a few vocal fanatic few can do for a "cause"....sheesh.

i'll try to get over it. Maybe if ms made some products that actually inspired something other than laughter i'd be less arrogant. Deal?

the simple fact is that the new zune hd is a very fine dap/pmp.

pmp/dap? You mean the market that apple chewed up and spat out two years ago? We're waaaay beyond the pmp. As soon as the iphone hit the shelves the pmp market was doomed. Ipods still sell, but the slide is perceptible. The zune has no chance unless it's attached to a phone.

i own one as well as an iphone. I use them for totally different purposes.

i own one. The iphone. It serves all purposes.

the iphone for data/calls and apps, and the zune hd for media playback. It sounds better than my iphone and can output higher quality video.

if i had a time machine i'd go back to two years ago and shake your hand. Bravo.

do i care about the sound quality? Absolutely. The video output? Maybe. It is not like i used the video out on my iphone either. Please don't bring up the fact that the zune needs a dock to output video; it is the same with all modern ipods thanks to changes in apple's business model.

i won't bring up anything about the zune needing a dock because we're past the point where the zune actually matters. It's obsolete. Unless it's attached to a phone.

in regards to whether the zune hd is as well know as the ipod, as well as your "too little, too late" comment; who really cares?

no one. Mostly because no one really cares about the zune, ergo no one really cares whether it's as "well known" as the ipod.

if ms can build a product that will still make a profit, then they are golden.

as is anyone who can turn a profit. It might do as well as the previous zune. If that ended up turning a profit, then great. I don't recall. Does anyone?

if it takes a while, then it takes a while.

this whole "ms can afford to fail" nonsene is wearing thin. Apple users get great products in regular cycles while ms fans are left out in the cold . . . Waiting. Because ms can "afford to fail."

no company has to dethrone apple to make a profit with their pmps and daps. They don't even need a large customer base. I can live with folks buying the ipod over the zune due to a lack of brand knowledge, due to personal choice after researching the devices, but having to listen to the inane nonsense spouted by fanboys (of any product) is such a waste of peoples' time and energy. Just get over it. Think of how much could be done if we just harness all of the "fanboyism" energy output...it is probably more than is collected by all the solar collectors worldwide!!!

Both of these are good products. Buy what you want.

are you trying to convince us . . . Or yourself?

Originally Posted by axual

There are two insurmountable problems Microsoft has:

1. Microsoft does not think like Apple.

2. Steve Jobs is the CEO of Apple.

If MS can solve these two hurdles, they might have a chance.