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11/19/09 at 11:06am
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Just another opinion or rumor ..... something else you can share your expert views on.

How is it a rumor?
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post #82 of 154
11/19/09 at 11:06am
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I'm going to posit that there is no chance at all that an Apple Tablet will merely, or even mostly, be an e-reader. That's completely nuts.

I'm going to posit that there is no chance at all that an Apple Tablet will be an e-reader, at all.

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post #83 of 154
11/19/09 at 11:11am
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Price? More like looks and power.

More like price.

Looks? You may want to rephrase that. Explain the looks part for us all. I'd like to see you try to explain that.

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post #84 of 154
11/19/09 at 11:14am
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My comment had nothing to do with Apple sales. Not sure if you have ever been in an Apple store or have done most of your shopping online. If you have ever been in an Apple store you would know they are over run with teenagers just taking up space. Its why Apple was once thinking of charging a low admission to enter their stores. To be honest I think it would be a great idea so I could shop with people just looking to buy and not ones that want to use facebook and take endless pics with the isight cam.

So you want your own Apple store just like you want your own version of a Mac computer. Why does that not surprise me? Get over yourself .... the whole world is not all about you.

And while I'm at it, I don't ever recall Apple saying it was considering an admission charge to their stores. Is their a link for that? ... or did you come up with that all by yourself again?

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11/19/09 at 11:22am
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Try not to sink to that level. Although the guy is wacky to say the least, I try not to resort to that sort of name calling. I know you mean no harm, I'm just trying to keep the peace round here.

When he gets too much I usually go tell him to have a coffee or a nap, it's for the best.


I appreciate your advice, I really do, but look over his posting history .... full of inaccuracies and/or lies, not to mention the same name calling you accuse me of. The reason I treat TechDud with disdain ... is because he deserves it.

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post #86 of 154
11/19/09 at 11:23am
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So you want your own Apple store just like you want your own version of a Mac computer. Why does that not surprise me? Get over yourself .... the whole world is not all about you.

And while I'm at it, I don't ever recall Apple saying it was considering an admission charge to their stores. Is their a link for that? ... or did you come up with that all by yourself again?

I have two Apple Stores near me so my opinion isn't based on one store.

Also here are your links.

http://www.bbspot.com/News/2007/07/a...rance-fee.html

http://digg.com/apple/Apple_Store_to...g_Entrance_Fee
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post #87 of 154
11/19/09 at 11:33am
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How is it a rumor?

Opinion or rumor .... does it exist ... has apple stated it's intention?

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post #88 of 154
11/19/09 at 11:35am
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

More like price.

Looks? You may want to rephrase that. Explain the looks part for us all. I'd like to see you try to explain that.

Oh you're sooo condenscending yet ignorant. I guess I need to explain something so obvious to everyone but you- I would have thought you much smarter than that.
The whole marketing of the MacBook Air was based on its looks (read thinness) as it could fit in an interoffice envelope. Its whole raison d'etre was that is was sooo thin and light in its weight. It was supposed to make us like something just because it looked like a thin notepad and weighed like a feather. I could care less for the skinny underpowered bitch myself.
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post #89 of 154
11/19/09 at 11:38am
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At 2000.00 they might as well not even bother. There isn't anyone thats going to pay 2000.00 for any tablet. Not that I think this article is accurate, this is just someone pulling numbers out his butt.

Arbitrary and uninformed. Without knowing what the actual device is like, you have no basis for saying that. People will drop that amount and more for a laptop. Surely as price goes up, the number of buyers goes down. But a statement like yours is entirely fatuous, almost as fatuous as the comment I saw below yours that fanboys would line up outside the store. Apple purchasers tend to be as pragmatic as anyone else. Except our equation for "whether to buy" isn't completely dominated by price. Some people don't understand that. Price is their only metric. Some of us, though, have more sophisticated metrics. For you, perhaps, price is the alpha and the omega. I pity you and the machines you must have to surround yourself with.
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post #90 of 154
11/19/09 at 11:39am
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TechDud, if you had even one nopad ( it takes 10 nopads to make a clue) you would realize that people who are "playing" with a mac today .... are tomorrows customers, but I guess that's a concept too sophisticated for your tiny, biased mind!

Hey newbee - i thought you weren't cluless but i may need to reconsider now. It means that they are addicted to posting on their facebook and myspace pages and checking their posts- nothing more and nothing less.
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post #91 of 154
11/19/09 at 11:41am
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Try not to sink to that level. Although the guy is wacky to say the least, I try not to resort to that sort of name calling. I know you mean no harm, I'm just trying to keep the peace round here.

When he gets too much I usually go tell him to have a coffee or a nap, it's for the best.

You tell him not to call me a name and then call me a name. Now that's rich!
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post #92 of 154
11/19/09 at 11:42am
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The new 2010 Macbook Air.

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html...t_adv_XSG10001

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post #93 of 154
11/19/09 at 11:42am
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I have two Apple Stores near me so my opinion isn't based on one store.

Also here are your links.

http://www.bbspot.com/News/2007/07/a...rance-fee.html

http://digg.com/apple/Apple_Store_to...g_Entrance_Fee

You're relying on a fake news blog and another one who links to it for your info???
The following quote is taken from your link (emphasis mine)

"Called "the world's greatest tech humour site" by The Register, BBspot creates entertainment for the geekier side of the world. BBspot produces a variety of features like fake news stories satirizing the tech and political worlds, the BBspot Mailbag which pokes fun at the Believers (people who believe our fake news) and much more."

Extreme ... that sinks to a new level of stupidity I'm not even sure TechDud could/would duplicate.

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post #94 of 154
11/19/09 at 12:00pm
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You're relying on a fake news blog and another one who links to it for your info???
The following quote is taken from your link (emphasis mine)

"Called "the world's greatest tech humour site" by The Register, BBspot creates entertainment for the geekier side of the world. BBspot produces a variety of features like fake news stories satirizing the tech and political worlds, the BBspot Mailbag which pokes fun at the Believers (people who believe our fake news) and much more."

Extreme ... that sinks to a new level of stupidity I'm not even sure TechDud could/would duplicate.

Funny how you omit what DIGG is? Go Wiki it and maybe you'll be enlightened.
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post #95 of 154
11/19/09 at 12:02pm
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Hey newbee - i thought you weren't cluless but i may need to reconsider now. It means that they are addicted to posting on their facebook and myspace pages and checking their posts- nothing more and nothing less.

So explain their large per/store retail sales. Apple understands that people who today are "just looking" and experiencing Apple products .... tomorrow will make up a large portion of their customer base .... apparently you still don't get it. ... Why am I not surprised?

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post #96 of 154
11/19/09 at 12:08pm
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So explain their large per/store retail sales. Apple understands that people who today are "just looking" and experiencing Apple products .... tomorrow will make up a large portion of their customer base .... apparently you still don't get it. ... Why am I not surprised?

How can you be surpised that I don't get your nonsense? As I stated previously most people do their homework prior to purchasing big ticket items and go to the store and buy them. That is why you rarely see a saleperson along side these punks who monopolize the machines. Do I need to spoon feed you anymore today?
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post #97 of 154
11/19/09 at 12:11pm
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Funny how you omit what DIGG is? Go Wiki it and maybe you'll be enlightened.
teckstud

In this case, at least, Digg is a website who relies on a blog for its news
The following is the headline from your precious Digg website.

"Apple Store to Begin Charging Entrance Fee
bbspot.com — If you want to see the iPhone at an Apple store, be sure to bring some cash. Large crowds flocking to see the iPhone and next generation iPods have forced Apple to begin charging a $5 entrance fee for Apple stores. Many analysts anticipated the move, and expect a positive response from customers."


Again TechDud, if you stopped skimming and read all the words .... you would "be enlightened", .... of course that would mean no more Apple bashing ... and that doesn't fit your agenda, does it? If you're trying to show off your wit and intelligence .... FAIL!

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post #98 of 154
11/19/09 at 12:15pm
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In this case, at least, Digg is a website who relies on a blog for its news
The following is the headline from your precious Digg website.

"Apple Store to Begin Charging Entrance Fee
bbspot.com If you want to see the iPhone at an Apple store, be sure to bring some cash. Large crowds flocking to see the iPhone and next generation iPods have forced Apple to begin charging a $5 entrance fee for Apple stores. Many analysts anticipated the move, and expect a positive response from customers."


Again TechDud, if you stopped skimming and read all the words .... you would "be enlightened", .... of course that would mean no more Apple bashing ... and that doesn't fit your agenda, does it?

I don't have any AGENDA!
Unlike you who's agenda is to bash TechDud- whoever that may be. Try posting something related to the topic of the thread for a change - I know it requires a bit more thinking but try it, you may like the challenge.
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post #99 of 154
11/19/09 at 12:15pm
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How can you be surpised that I don't get your nonsense? As I stated previously most people do their homework prior to purchasing big ticket items and go to the store and buy them. That is why you rarely see a saleperson along side these punks who monopolize the machines. Do I need to spoon feed you anymore today?


So now your speaking for "most people" .... how misguided and arrogant!

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post #100 of 154
11/19/09 at 12:18pm
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I don't have any AGENDA!
Unlike you who's agenda is to bash TechDud- whoever that may be. Try posting something related to the topic of the thread for a change - I know it requires a bit more thinking but try it, you may like the challenge.


You reply to me ... I reply to you .... That's what makes up a thread ... that doesn't require a lot of thinking, if it did, we would never hear from you.

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post #101 of 154
11/19/09 at 12:20pm
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Those $600 iPhones who's debut had huge lines 2 years ago are worthless today and laying in the garbage heap of technology today.

Hardly. They are all jailbroken and running on T-mobile or shipped to the third world. Nobody is throwing them away.

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post #102 of 154
11/19/09 at 12:20pm
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So now your speaking for "most people" .... how misguided and arrogant!

So you think most people then are impulsive/compulsive shoppers.
I'M not speaking for most people by that statement if you understood grammar.
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post #103 of 154
11/19/09 at 12:22pm
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Hardly. They are all jailbroken and running on T-mobile or shipped to the third world. Noboby is throwing them away.

Well I have always heard that "one man's trash is another man's treasure" so you do have a point- somewhat. \
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post #104 of 154
11/19/09 at 12:26pm
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I'm going to posit that there is no chance at all that an Apple Tablet will be an e-reader, at all.

That's just as silly, but in the other direction. The iPhone is already an e-reader, and Apple didn't have to lift a finger to make it so.

I see that I made a mistake in my post. I meant the iTunes Store, not just iTunes. I'll go back and fix that. Then my post should be clearer: The technologies to do an e-reader right are in place now. There will presumably be an App Store. There are already plans to sell magazines through the iTunes Store. All that's needed is a tablet and an app.

Apple doesn't actually have to do anything, although in my opinion it would help if they did. Really, the question is not whether the tablet will become an e-reader--it will--but whether it will do so because publishers see an opportunity to go that way and act independently, or because Steve Jobs sees an opportunity to revolutionize publishing for the second time. Apple didn't lead the desktop publishing revolution the first time. They just provided the platform that made it possible.
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11/19/09 at 12:28pm
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Well I have always heard that "one man's trash is another man's treasure" so you do have a point- somewhat. \

NY has a lot of rude angry snobs. I used to work there several years ago. So glad to be somewhere pleasant now. That place will make you crazy. So I can sort of understand your issues.

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11/19/09 at 12:29pm
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I not speaking for most people by that statement if you understood grammar.

HaHaHa ... pot, meet kettle!

quote from TechDud: " most people do their homework prior to purchasing big ticket items"

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11/19/09 at 12:33pm
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HaHaHa ... pot, meet kettle!

quote from TechDud: " most people do their homework prior to purchasing big ticket items"

Well I tried to get you to understand in plain English and it didn't work so I thought I'd try Ebonics.
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11/19/09 at 12:39pm
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The whole marketing of the MacBook Air was based on its looks (read thinness) as it could fit in an interoffice envelope. Its whole raison d'etre was that is was sooo thin and light in its weight. It was supposed to make us like something just because it looked like a thin notepad and weighed like a feather. I could care less for the skinny underpowered bitch myself.

I carry my laptop in my briefcase to and from work every day. The formfactor of the MacBook Air appeals to me more than any other computer because it is thin (so I can fit as much other stuff in my case as I need) and light (so I can carry everything with ease).

Reducing the footprint to a 10 inch screen or 8 inch screen (with its accompanying non-standard keyboard) helps me not at all and leaves me with the aforementioned tiny keyboard.

I would never go so far as to state that the smaller footprint netbook computers are not good for some, but they would be of no use to me at all. To simply assert that the skinnyness of the Air is useless for all (just because you don't value that feature) falls somewhere between egocentricism and idiocy.
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post #109 of 154
11/19/09 at 12:44pm
so.. by the end of 2010.. i can get an apple tablet?

heh..

looks like the chrome OS is an ideal OS for ANY tablet.. wut will apple do?... OR.. what do they have something better up in their sleeves?
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11/19/09 at 12:44pm
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Well I tried to get you to understand in plain English and it didn't work so I thought I'd try Ebonics.

Before learning a "second language" you might try fully learning the one you post in .... that would be a big help.

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11/19/09 at 12:51pm
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Arbitrary and uninformed. Without knowing what the actual device is like, you have no basis for saying that. People will drop that amount and more for a laptop. Surely as price goes up, the number of buyers goes down. But a statement like yours is entirely fatuous, almost as fatuous as the comment I saw below yours that fanboys would line up outside the store. Apple purchasers tend to be as pragmatic as anyone else. Except our equation for "whether to buy" isn't completely dominated by price. Some people don't understand that. Price is their only metric. Some of us, though, have more sophisticated metrics. For you, perhaps, price is the alpha and the omega. I pity you and the machines you must have to surround yourself with.

Price is a factor for the majority of consumers. Also the main issue with price on this is OLED would be the majority of the price increase. Consumers, not even Apple consumers are going to pay an extra 1000.00 just for an OLED option. Even more so if they understand the limitations of the technology.

You would be rather shocked that teh machines I have. My Apple systems are by far the slowest systems I own.
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11/19/09 at 12:52pm
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I carry my laptop in my briefcase to and from work every day. The formfactor of the MacBook Air appeals to me more than any other computer because it is thin (so I can fit as much other stuff in my case as I need) and light (so I can carry everything with ease).

Reducing the footprint to a 10 inch screen or 8 inch screen (with its accompanying non-standard keyboard) helps me not at all and leaves me with the aforementioned tiny keyboard.

I would never go so far as to state that the smaller footprint netbook computers are not good for some, but they would be of no use to me at all. To simply assert that the skinnyness of the Air is useless for all (just because you don't value that feature) falls somewhere between egocentricism and idiocy.

You still don't get that I stated a notebook not a netbook which is full powered. the footprint of the MBA is too large- same as the 13" and that is why Apple is devloping this smaller form factor because they don't have anything in the 7 to 10" range.
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11/19/09 at 12:59pm
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That's just as silly, but in the other direction. The iPhone is already an e-reader, and Apple didn't have to lift a finger to make it so.

Absolutely.

The problem that people are having in determining how much people will pay for a tablet and what it will do is that no tablet computer has yet found a niche or a "killer app" and become widely popular. There is nothing to compare it to. (If there is, then the product is doomed already because a retread of old ideas isn't going to fly no matter how beautiful the package.)
The Kindle is, however, percieved as successful right now and it looks to some like a modified tablet. With the Apple tablet rumors, then, people with little imagination can only picture it as a fancy e-reader.

Incidentally, before the iPhone came out, people could only see it as a "iPod-phone" because there was nothing like the iPhone in existance. People will never pay hundreds for that, they said before they even knew what it would really be.

Because the iPhone is so much more than a phone with music capabilities, and because Jobs himself has apparently taken the tablet as a signature item (like he did the iPhone) one has to assume that it will do things most of us haven't thought of or even realize we want to do.
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11/19/09 at 1:02pm
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You would be rather shocked that teh machines I have. My Apple systems are by far the slowest systems I own.

I would not be shocked, I don't care at all. Most modern computers have twice as much power as the the average user needs.

From my perspective, I can easily make a lot of money with a Mac. Even our fast Windows machines are so awkwardly non-intuitive, I could probably make more money collecting aluminum cans than I could using those dinosaurs. Once in a long while I have to use a piece of Windows software to finish a job but it is really, really rare.

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11/19/09 at 1:06pm
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You still don't get that I stated a notebook not a netbook which is full powered. the footprint of the MBA is too large- same as the 13" and that is why Apple is devloping this smaller form factor because they don't have anything in the 7 to 10" range.

I understand that you want something with a smaller footprint. That is your right to want that.

Have you considered that the MacBook Air was not intended to be what you wanted? You call it a failure because it doesn't fit your need, but are ignoring that it does fit my needs.
Now, no one argues that the Air is a runaway blockbuster success. But Apple is selling them and it fits their target image. Mild success, I would say, not falure.

Bottom line:
I would be happy if Apple decided to produce a 7-10 inch notebook for you if it helped their bottom line.
And I would not call it a failure simply because it did not fit my needs.
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11/19/09 at 1:13pm
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I understand that you want something with a smaller footprint. That is your right to want that.

Have you considered that the MacBook Air was not intended to be what you wanted? You call it a failure because it doesn't fit your need, but are ignoring that it does fit my needs.
Now, no one argues that the Air is a runaway blockbuster success. But Apple is selling them and it fits their target image. Mild success, I would say, not falure.

Bottom line:
I would be happy if Apple decided to produce a 7-10 inch notebook for you if it helped their bottom line.
And I would not call it a failure simply because it did not fit my needs.

And where did I call it a failure? All I said Apple has failed and missed out on the 7- 10" form factor for more than 2 years now. We are finally approaching Apple's launch date for this size and will see if it was worth the wait.
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11/19/09 at 1:13pm
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Price is a factor for the majority of consumers. Also the main issue with price on this is OLED would be the majority of the price increase. Consumers, not even Apple consumers are going to pay an extra 1000.00 just for an OLED option. Even more so if they understand the limitations of the technology.

I don't know why the critics are so appaled by the possibility of an expensive OLED option in an unannounced product. Clearly, the LED version would be the better choice for most everybody if these price estimates hold up. If some people with extra discretionary income choose to make the upgrade for little percieved value, why does it matter to you?

The real questions are: Will the $700-$1000 LCD version be compelling? Will it change things like the iPhone did?
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11/19/09 at 1:14pm
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Bottom line:
Enjoy your portable typewriter-I'm glad it suits your needs.

Thank you.
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11/19/09 at 1:25pm
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Absolutely.

The problem that people are having in determining how much people will pay for a tablet and what it will do is that no tablet computer has yet found a niche or a "killer app" and become widely popular. There is nothing to compare it to. (If there is, then the product is doomed already because a retread of old ideas isn't going to fly no matter how beautiful the package.)
The Kindle is, however, percieved as successful right now and it looks to some like a modified tablet. With the Apple tablet rumors, then, people with little imagination can only picture it as a fancy e-reader.

Incidentally, before the iPhone came out, people could only see it as a "iPod-phone" because there was nothing like the iPhone in existance. People will never pay hundreds for that, they said before they even knew what it would really be.

Because the iPhone is so much more than a phone with music capabilities, and because Jobs himself has apparently taken the tablet as a signature item (like he did the iPhone) one has to assume that it will do things most of us haven't thought of or even realize we want to do.

well said..

thaz why the anticipation is high and expections are even higher. I really don't care how much it costs, if it makes my everyday life more efficient; I'd pay it at any price.

so before they reveal it.. i won't judge if it is "pricy"

on that note.. I fail to see how they going to fill the gap between a notebook and an iphone. Perhaps you say it's a "multi-touch netbook?" , Gee, let me see, so do i give up my phone and carry this with my laptop? or do i give up my laptop and carry this with my iphone? all 3 devices at once?

best case scenereo for me:
bye-bye MBP, iMac at home, Windows PC at work, "iTablet" to sync both machines, equipped with a bluetooth headset for the phone function, so i don't have to carry around my iphone, and ultimately, the headset would sync my iphone for the weekend when the iTablet is absent.

yarrrh? nooooo?..
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11/19/09 at 1:32pm
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Indeed. We certainly don't need more Flash.

Well, speak for yourself. I don't care what SJ says - I'm missing Flash on my iPhone. \
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