Originally Posted by Clive At Five
Perhaps I'm not explaining this clearly enough: Since the hardware, firmware, and software inside the Touch are identical to the hw/fw/sw which support the camera feature in the iPhone, the Touch, by default, has been compatible with the camera used in the iPhone. I call that camera-ready.
But none of the cameras for the iPhone can fit into the Touch. The only one that could fit is the one in the Nano.
Speculating and having a hardened theory as to what really happened is fine, but we cant rule out a technical issue that caused them to scrape it despite expecting to include it.
The limiting factor, however, was the form-factor, necessitating a different, smaller camera module. That doesn't mean starting completely from scratch for Apple, it just means making the existing hw/fw/sw compatible with the camera via a driver.
Never said it did, but its possible this particular camera hardware didnt play nice with the iPhone OS or the Touchs logic board or connector. Weve seen plenty of things from Apple that should work but dont for some unknown reason. Bluetooth and Wireless seems to be common complaints in Macs.
What are you even saying? Nowhere did I say anyone thought it was his god-given right to get a camera! That completely different from expecting the presence of a certain feature in a product update.
I went overboard with the wording. My apologies for that, but I never expect a company do do anything that they havent promised and essentially set in stone. I hope certain things come with the next revision but would bet odds that certain features will come but I will not get upset if it doesnt. If it doesnt suit my needs Ill
WTF? What does breaking laws have to do with anything?
If a company has broken no laws or no promised I wont get upset by what they release. Its that simple. I scrutinize a new product and will get it or not get based on my needs and wants. No more, no less. Its not personal. And while Im certain that my next phone will be an iPhone and my next notebook will be a Mac I would not hesitate to choose another brand if their products suited my needs better. Of course, my desire to use OS X over other platforms makes very unlikely. At most Id likely just stick with what I have longer instead of buying new HW every year.
What I am saying, however, is that the iPod Touch with camera was inevitable from the very beginning. To be without it after three generations is a serious omission, in my opinion. Though the attempt was obviously made, apparently not enough measures were taken to avoid this outcome.
Again, you don't have to agree, but I am not understanding why you deem this any less serious than one of the other examples you listed.
I see the MobileMe launch as more serious because the QoS that was expected was not had for 4 days. We ended up getting 2 free months out of it since they did lack in their service. The SATA connector is a little less compelling from a potential lawsuit since Apple never guarantied a 3Gbps SATA connector or acceptable use with any and all drives at time of purchase, but the mindset for many years past was 3Gbps and any drive with the right connector would work. Your concern falls somewhat below these, IMO, since you werent promised a camera at any time from Apple and no other Touch before it had a camera.
For all intents and purposes I expected
a camera in the Touch, too, especially after the cheaper and smaller Nano got one, but I dont expect Apple to provide it because we expected it. Again, I dont know whether the reasoning was technical or financial but with the cost of the HW and the time spent already working to include it it simply doesnt make sense to me that it was a financial so it has to be technical. In what way, I dont know.