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Melting sea ice would cause sea levels to rise by 'hair's breadth'

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post #2162 of 3039

You actually needed an article to figure this out? Wow dude ...... ever had a glass of iced tea?

We all know sea ice is not a problem when it melts it's already in the sea.

Now how much will the land ice add when it runs into the ocean?
You know some of this ice is on land right?
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post #2163 of 3039
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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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post #2164 of 3039
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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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post #2165 of 3039
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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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post #2166 of 3039
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People like yourself should just admit they are advocating genocide. You'll sacrifice a couple billion human beings and consider it the ends that justify the means for your green utopian religion. Stop being a fanatic and realize that we could save plenty of costs by your insane reasoning if we just plugged them with bullets and killed them instead of treating them as well. Only we won't do that because that would be genocide. Likewise we don't just turn off oil and turn on something else that has a magitude of order lower ability to deliver or store energy because we don't want people dead. Since you continue to advocate for it, clearly you do want them dead.

We won't give up energy solutions that keep them alive even if minute percentages of them suffer some trade-offs that may or may not be associated the actual use of said products, but may actually just be the numbers running on an entire population that can afford diagnose, treat, discover and deal with an entire population living longer and better.

We can see the number of dead going up with the cost of heating oil in the winter or the lack of air conditioning in the summer. Prove that you can hand them the alternatives and not increase the death rate. It can't be done so what you advocate is genocide.

Can you count how many genocides (not sure there is a plural) in a post about climate change..?
Could you also point to my post that you are referencing or are you just making stuff up that could back fire when it gets into the wrong people's heads, like mine.
"Hand them alternatives," isn't that advocating socialism?
Let them find their own alternatives.... that's the free market. All that hard blowing into your trumpet keeps you dizzy a lot doesn't it.

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post #2167 of 3039
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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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post #2168 of 3039
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Can you count how many genocides (not sure there is a plural) in a post about climate change..?
Could you also point to my post that you are referencing or are you just making stuff up that could back fire when it gets into the wrong people's heads, like mine.
"Hand them alternatives," isn't that advocating socialism?
Let them find their own alternatives.... that's the free market. All that hard blowing into your trumpet keeps you dizzy a lot doesn't it.

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"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

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post #2169 of 3039
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fragments... Sentence.... Thoughts.... Something.

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post #2170 of 3039
"Bizarre changes in precipitation patterns are now being observed in many regions throughout the world. Last month, British scientists working near the North Pole were astonished by an unprecedented April rainfall. David Phillips, a senior climatologist in Canada, described the event as bizarre, adding, This is up there among fish falling from the sky or Niagara Falls running dry."
~ http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/...shore?page=0,1
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"I have been made victorious by terror~ Muhammad

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post #2171 of 3039
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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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post #2172 of 3039
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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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post #2173 of 3039
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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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post #2174 of 3039

I think we have established already that 90% of the world's population and therefore CO2 output is in the northern hemisphere.
Yeah man, you're really diggin' up some cool info, .....
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post #2175 of 3039
Have we established that? Could we see the source that established it? I'm not feeling me as part of that we.

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post #2176 of 3039
"I have been made victorious by terror~ Muhammad

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"I have been made victorious by terror~ Muhammad

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post #2177 of 3039
"I have been made victorious by terror~ Muhammad

"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam," ~ Barack Obama

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"I have been made victorious by terror~ Muhammad

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post #2178 of 3039
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Have we established that? Could we see the source that established it? I'm not feeling me as part of that we.

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"We" use a thing called Google (or similar), you should try it some time. Maybe you can become part of "we".
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post #2179 of 3039
Maybe after several instances of being found to "make shit up" and being disproven by others using links and sources, you should get in the habit of providing some.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

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post #2180 of 3039
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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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post #2181 of 3039
More rational eco reasoning:

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But Bill McKibben has found a planet where such books sell well. It is a world where environmental news goes from bad to worse, a place where ice caps vanish, crops fail, oceans acidify, activists rally and an oil company makes more money in three years than any company in the history of money. The place McKibben has discovered is an unpronounceable land called Eaarth. Where is Eaarth, you may ask? Unfortunately, youre soaking in it.

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Earth with one a, according to Mc Kibben, no longer exists. We have carbonized it out of existence. Two-a Eaarth is now our home. On two-a Eaarth, we are way past the bearable threshold 350 parts per million for carbon dioxide in our atmosphere, and well down the road to a devastating 650 parts per million.

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we have come to resemble the guy who ate steak for dinner every night and let his cholesterol top 300 and had the heart attack, as McKibben puts it. Now he dines on Lipitor and walks the treadmill, but half his heart is dead tissue. How we proceed with a half-dead heart is McKibbens primary concern, one that keeps even the morbidly pessimistic reader turning the pages, looking for his own not-too-hot cubbyhole on the superheated planet.

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Unlike many writers on environmental cataclysm, McKibben is actually a writer, and a very good one at that. He is smart enough to know that the reader needs a dark chuckle of a bone thrown at him now and then to keep plowing through the bad news.

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But many of these proposed solutions inadvertently resemble the list of things Christian Lander lampooned in his 2008 best seller Stuff White People Like: farmers markets, awareness, making you feel bad about not going outside, vegan/vegetarianism. Its not that these things arent important. But in the absence of some overarching authority, a kind of ecologically minded Lenin, they will remain hipster lifestyle choices rather than global game changers. Which I suppose in the end is part of McKibbens point. Eaarth itself will be that ecological Lenin, a harsh environmental dictator that will force us to bend to new rules.

The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.

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post #2182 of 3039
Every eye fixed itself upon him; with parted lips and bated breath the audience hung upon his words, taking no note of time, rapt in the ghastly fascinations of the tale. NOT!
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Every eye fixed itself upon him; with parted lips and bated breath the audience hung upon his words, taking no note of time, rapt in the ghastly fascinations of the tale. NOT!
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post #2183 of 3039
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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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post #2184 of 3039
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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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post #2185 of 3039
If its robust enough for Nature magazine, then I'll accept this study.
"We've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming". VP Cheney, 3/29/2006. Interview by Tony Snow
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post #2186 of 3039
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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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post #2189 of 3039
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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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post #2192 of 3039
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Polar bears on the brink of extinction?

Polar bears not at risk: Nunavut

Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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Reason for growth: Coral reef deposits.
Does this disprove GW: NO!
Does the author think the islanders should not be prepared for sea level rise: NO!
Did the threat to Micronesia subside: NO!

Should we keep burning oil like crazy: NO!

Does this absolve us from our responsibility to leave a clean world to our kids: NO!
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post #2195 of 3039
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Study: Wind Farms = Bird Killers

Explain that one away.

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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post #2197 of 3039
The evil that we fight is but the shadow of the evil that we do.
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The evil that we fight is but the shadow of the evil that we do.
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post #2198 of 3039
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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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post #2199 of 3039
You need skeptics, especially when the science gets very big and monolithic. -James Lovelock
The Story of Stuff
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You need skeptics, especially when the science gets very big and monolithic. -James Lovelock
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post #2200 of 3039
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Reason for growth: Coral reef deposits.
Does this disprove GW: NO!
Does the author think the islanders should not be prepared for sea level rise: NO!
Did the threat to Micronesia subside: NO!

Should we keep burning oil like crazy: NO!

Does this absolve us from our responsibility to leave a clean world to our kids: NO!


What are the alternatives to oil at present?
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