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post #2161 of 3039
4/30/10 at 6:14pm
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Melting sea ice would cause sea levels to rise by 'hair's breadth'

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post #2162 of 3039
5/1/10 at 9:09am
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Melting sea ice would cause sea levels to rise by 'hair's breadth'

You actually needed an article to figure this out? Wow dude ...... ever had a glass of iced tea?

We all know sea ice is not a problem when it melts it's already in the sea.

Now how much will the land ice add when it runs into the ocean?
You know some of this ice is on land right?
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post #2163 of 3039
5/5/10 at 7:22am
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Whoops! CO2 has almost nothing to do with global warming, discovers top US meteorologist

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post #2164 of 3039
5/5/10 at 7:24am
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'The smell of money': Gore, Goldman Sachs and Carbon Trading

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post #2165 of 3039
5/5/10 at 7:27am
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Barack Obama, Al Gore, Goldman Sachs, and the Greatest Swindle in Human History

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post #2166 of 3039
5/5/10 at 9:12am
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People like yourself should just admit they are advocating genocide. You'll sacrifice a couple billion human beings and consider it the ends that justify the means for your green utopian religion. Stop being a fanatic and realize that we could save plenty of costs by your insane reasoning if we just plugged them with bullets and killed them instead of treating them as well. Only we won't do that because that would be genocide. Likewise we don't just turn off oil and turn on something else that has a magitude of order lower ability to deliver or store energy because we don't want people dead. Since you continue to advocate for it, clearly you do want them dead.

We won't give up energy solutions that keep them alive even if minute percentages of them suffer some trade-offs that may or may not be associated the actual use of said products, but may actually just be the numbers running on an entire population that can afford diagnose, treat, discover and deal with an entire population living longer and better.

We can see the number of dead going up with the cost of heating oil in the winter or the lack of air conditioning in the summer. Prove that you can hand them the alternatives and not increase the death rate. It can't be done so what you advocate is genocide.

Can you count how many genocides (not sure there is a plural) in a post about climate change..?
Could you also point to my post that you are referencing or are you just making stuff up that could back fire when it gets into the wrong people's heads, like mine.
"Hand them alternatives," isn't that advocating socialism?
Let them find their own alternatives.... that's the free market. All that hard blowing into your trumpet keeps you dizzy a lot doesn't it.

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post #2167 of 3039
5/6/10 at 7:49pm
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Greenland Was Warmer 80 Years Ago

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post #2168 of 3039
5/6/10 at 9:37pm
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Can you count how many genocides (not sure there is a plural) in a post about climate change..?
Could you also point to my post that you are referencing or are you just making stuff up that could back fire when it gets into the wrong people's heads, like mine.
"Hand them alternatives," isn't that advocating socialism?
Let them find their own alternatives.... that's the free market. All that hard blowing into your trumpet keeps you dizzy a lot doesn't it.

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post #2169 of 3039
5/7/10 at 8:10am
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fragments... Sentence.... Thoughts.... Something.

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post #2170 of 3039
5/9/10 at 5:49pm
"Bizarre changes in precipitation patterns are now being observed in many regions throughout the world. Last month, British scientists working near the North Pole were astonished by an unprecedented April rainfall. David Phillips, a senior climatologist in Canada, described the event as bizarre, adding, This is up there among fish falling from the sky or Niagara Falls running dry."
~ http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/...shore?page=0,1

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post #2171 of 3039
5/14/10 at 7:35am
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IPCC Cites an Unpublished Journal 39 Times

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post #2172 of 3039
5/14/10 at 7:36am
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Floods 10X More Likely During Global Cooling Periods Vs. Global Warming Periods, EU Scientists Discover

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post #2173 of 3039
5/14/10 at 7:36am
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Antarctica: It's Not Melting & Temperature Increase Is Zilch - There's No CO2 Impact

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post #2174 of 3039
5/14/10 at 2:49pm
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Antarctica: It's Not Melting & Temperature Increase Is Zilch - There's No CO2 Impact

I think we have established already that 90% of the world's population and therefore CO2 output is in the northern hemisphere.
Yeah man, you're really diggin' up some cool info, .....
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post #2175 of 3039
5/14/10 at 3:11pm
Have we established that? Could we see the source that established it? I'm not feeling me as part of that we.

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post #2176 of 3039
5/14/10 at 3:15pm
melt baby melt- http://climateprogress.org/2010/05/1...cience-center/

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post #2177 of 3039
5/14/10 at 3:28pm
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Antarctica: It's Not Melting & Temperature Increase Is Zilch - There's No CO2 Impact

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...riginal&page=1

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post #2178 of 3039
5/16/10 at 8:37am
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Have we established that? Could we see the source that established it? I'm not feeling me as part of that we.

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"We" use a thing called Google (or similar), you should try it some time. Maybe you can become part of "we".
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post #2179 of 3039
5/16/10 at 8:52am
Maybe after several instances of being found to "make shit up" and being disproven by others using links and sources, you should get in the habit of providing some.

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post #2180 of 3039
5/16/10 at 6:51pm
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Geologist Declares 'global warming is over' -- Warns U.S. Climate Conference of 'Looming Threat of Global Cooling'

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post #2181 of 3039
5/17/10 at 7:30am
More rational eco reasoning:

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But Bill McKibben has found a planet where such books sell well. It is a world where environmental news goes from bad to worse, a place where ice caps vanish, crops fail, oceans acidify, activists rally and an oil company makes more money in three years than any company in the history of money. The place McKibben has discovered is an unpronounceable land called Eaarth. Where is Eaarth, you may ask? Unfortunately, youre soaking in it.

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Earth with one a, according to Mc Kibben, no longer exists. We have carbonized it out of existence. Two-a Eaarth is now our home. On two-a Eaarth, we are way past the bearable threshold 350 parts per million for carbon dioxide in our atmosphere, and well down the road to a devastating 650 parts per million.

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we have come to resemble the guy who ate steak for dinner every night and let his cholesterol top 300 and had the heart attack, as McKibben puts it. Now he dines on Lipitor and walks the treadmill, but half his heart is dead tissue. How we proceed with a half-dead heart is McKibbens primary concern, one that keeps even the morbidly pessimistic reader turning the pages, looking for his own not-too-hot cubbyhole on the superheated planet.

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Unlike many writers on environmental cataclysm, McKibben is actually a writer, and a very good one at that. He is smart enough to know that the reader needs a dark chuckle of a bone thrown at him now and then to keep plowing through the bad news.

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But many of these proposed solutions inadvertently resemble the list of things Christian Lander lampooned in his 2008 best seller Stuff White People Like: farmers markets, awareness, making you feel bad about not going outside, vegan/vegetarianism. Its not that these things arent important. But in the absence of some overarching authority, a kind of ecologically minded Lenin, they will remain hipster lifestyle choices rather than global game changers. Which I suppose in the end is part of McKibbens point. Eaarth itself will be that ecological Lenin, a harsh environmental dictator that will force us to bend to new rules.

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post #2182 of 3039
5/18/10 at 2:25pm
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Geologist Declares 'global warming is over' -- Warns U.S. Climate Conference of 'Looming Threat of Global Cooling'

International Conference on Climate Change

The Heartland Institute

Don Easterbrook
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post #2183 of 3039
5/18/10 at 7:08pm
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Paradise Lake of The Himalayas: Peer-Research Identifies Both Roman & Medieval Warming Occurring There

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post #2184 of 3039
5/22/10 at 8:22am
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The Great Dying of Thermometers

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post #2185 of 3039
5/24/10 at 9:08pm
If its robust enough for Nature magazine, then I'll accept this study.
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post #2186 of 3039
5/25/10 at 5:48pm
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Climate Fears Turn to Doubts Among Britons

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post #2187 of 3039
5/25/10 at 5:49pm
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Lack Of A Trend In The Ocean Surface Temperature Since 2000 – Its Significance

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post #2188 of 3039
5/27/10 at 5:51pm
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Where Has the Magic Gone? | The New York Times plaintively ponders global warmism's loss of credibility.

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post #2189 of 3039
5/27/10 at 5:52pm
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They think you're stupid: You owe money to scammers because it's allegedly too warm on Mt Everest

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post #2190 of 3039
5/27/10 at 5:54pm
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Why Man-Made Global Warming is a load of cobblers; Pt 1

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post #2191 of 3039
5/31/10 at 8:01am
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The ice caps are melting?

Arctic Ice Volume Has Increased 25% Since May, 2008

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post #2192 of 3039
5/31/10 at 8:01am
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Polar bears on the brink of extinction?

Polar bears not at risk: Nunavut

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post #2193 of 3039
6/3/10 at 4:09pm
Pacific islands growing, not shrinking

So, why did the Pacific islands became a tragic poster children of Al Gore's film An Inconvenient Truth?
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post #2194 of 3039
6/4/10 at 11:09am
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Pacific islands growing, not shrinking

So, why did the Pacific islands became a tragic poster children of Al Gore's film An Inconvenient Truth?

Reason for growth: Coral reef deposits.
Does this disprove GW: NO!
Does the author think the islanders should not be prepared for sea level rise: NO!
Did the threat to Micronesia subside: NO!

Should we keep burning oil like crazy: NO!

Does this absolve us from our responsibility to leave a clean world to our kids: NO!
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post #2195 of 3039
6/7/10 at 5:55pm
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Study: Wind Farms = Bird Killers

Explain that one away.

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post #2196 of 3039
6/7/10 at 5:57pm
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Warming in Last 50 Years Predicted by Natural Climate Cycles

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post #2197 of 3039
6/13/10 at 9:21pm
When even people at Climategate's East Anglia are saying there's no consensus, it's over.
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post #2198 of 3039
6/15/10 at 5:54pm
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2010 Antarctica Peer-Reviewed Research: Ice Core Data Confirms Medieval Period Warmer Than Present

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post #2199 of 3039
6/17/10 at 8:45am
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When even people at Climategate's East Anglia are saying there's no consensus, it's over.

Color me unsurprised!
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post #2200 of 3039
6/17/10 at 9:52am
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Reason for growth: Coral reef deposits.
Does this disprove GW: NO!
Does the author think the islanders should not be prepared for sea level rise: NO!
Did the threat to Micronesia subside: NO!

Should we keep burning oil like crazy: NO!

Does this absolve us from our responsibility to leave a clean world to our kids: NO!


What are the alternatives to oil at present?
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