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Another report claims that a Google-branded phone will arrive soon, and an application that served as a promotional tool for the Motorola Droid was rejected by Apple for distribution in the iPhone App Store.

Google phone "a certainty"

Citing a "trusted source," Gizmodo reported Monday that a Google phone running a new, different version of its Android mobile operating system is still in the works. Prototypes of the device are expected to arrive on the company's campus "over the next few weeks."

The source said that the new version of Android will run on handsets with large screens, and it was spotted on a laptop in addition to phones. In addition, it was reported that the current Android is not the "real" Android.

"So what makes for a "real" version of Android?" the report said. "Our best guess is an Android OS with Google Voice at its heart."

Weeks ago, the rumored "Google Phone" was said to be coming in 2010. The custom-built hardware will allegedly allow the company to control all facets of the hardware, much like with Apple and the iPhone.

iDroid rejected

The "iDroid" application was a free downloadable advertisement for the Droid, an Android-powered handset that aims to compete with Apple's iPhone. It was created by Swavv Apps, the developer behind iPhone applications "Beer Pong Pro" and "Spin the Bottle Pro."

According to TechCrunch, Apple rejected the software from the App Store because it is an advertisement for a competing product.

"All it did was display the glowing red Droid eye," the report said of the iDroid application. "If you tapped on the eye, it then showed some marketing bullet points about the competing phone such as the fact that it can run simultaneous apps and has a slide-out keyboard (something the iPhone lacks). The second page also shows a picture of the Droid with its keyboard out."

The Motorola Droid has been positioned as an iPhone competitor by its manufacturer as well as its wireless carrier, Verizon. The handset was introduced in early November to positive reviews.
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iDon't offer the Droid app.
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Anti-competitive anyone...
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Anti-competitive anyone...

How do you figure? Apple is under no obligation to provide marketing for a competing product on their own products. The app store is Apple's and they are free to do with it as they wish.
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Sounds like the app lacked sufficient utility.

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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

Sounds like the app lacked sufficient utility.

Yeah, especially compared with the developer's other app, "Spin the Bottle Pro."
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

Sounds like the app lacked sufficient utility.

An advertisement masarading as an app.
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What would happen if Microsoft or google start blocking Apples adds from their products?
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What would happen if Microsoft or google start blocking Apples adds from their products?

You would hear a ton of complaints and whines.
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An advertisement masarading as an app.

The censorship board strikes again!
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There is a new and free marketing tool.. get Apple to reject your iPhone app!!
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Originally Posted by clexman View Post

Anti-competitive anyone...

you're a dum-dum.
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It should be rejected whether an ad or not simply for being lame.
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Originally Posted by bedouin View Post

It should be rejected whether an ad or not simply for being lame.

Right- we need a new improved longer fart app.
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Originally Posted by clexman View Post

Anti-competitive anyone...

How about... no?


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What would happen if Microsoft or google start blocking Apples adds from their products?

Name one app on a private store that is nothing but an advert for Apple.


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There is a new and free marketing tool.. get Apple to reject your iPhone app!!

hehe I was thinking the same thing. Seems to work pretty well. In fact, anything where you butt heads with Apple is free press these days.
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hehe I was thinking the same thing. Seems to work pretty well. In fact, anything where you butt heads with Apple is free press these days.

Yeah.. I wish I had wrote a blog entry about my iPhone app rejection few months ago.. I could have sold a lot more by now. Oh well, too late now.. I've already fixed the bug that caused the crash
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Originally Posted by sapple View Post

What would happen if Microsoft or google start blocking Apples adds from their products?

Any Apple ad appearing on a web site run my MS or Google is paid for by Apple. Not provided for free. Why would Apple be under any obligation to provide free distribution of advertisements (via a free app on the App Store, for which Apple pays the costs to run) for a competing product? That's just absurd.
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

You would hear a ton of complaints and whines.

i'm surprised by your comment. does apple promote their products in windows software, or chrome (that are not paid advertising on public sites)? please give examples if you think they do.
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LOL...these guys probably could've made some money if they re-packaged their existing apps as free versions and displayed Droid ads within their apps...that is perfectly OK with apple.
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i'm surprised by your comment. does apple promote their products in windows software, or chrome (that are not paid advertising on public sites)? please give examples if you think they do.

please don't encourage him...
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i'm surprised by your comment. does apple promote their products in windows software, or chrome (that are not paid advertising on public sites)? please give examples if you think they do.

You're asking this teckstud guy a serious question?! Good luck.
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Originally Posted by sapple View Post

What would happen if Microsoft or google start blocking Apples adds from their products?

ummm.... they'd both lose money?
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Originally Posted by NasserAE View Post

There is a new and free marketing tool.. get Apple to reject your iPhone app!!

Excellent point!
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Ok admit it, you posted this story as an early xmas / Hanukkah / kawanza preset to Teckstud right?
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i'm surprised by your comment. does apple promote their products in windows software, or chrome (that are not paid advertising on public sites)? please give examples if you think they do.

Everytime a Windows user needs to update Apple's iTunes program for upteenth time they get an default Safari download (basically an advertisement) that they have to disengage- OK? Let's see the reaction from the fanbots if Microsoft rejects that mumbo-combo.
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What would happen if Microsoft or google start blocking Apples adds from their products?

It's not blocking advertising; Droid ads can still pop up on websites or on TVU or whatever. If Apple asked MS to ship Windows with a bunch of "I'm a Mac, and I'm a PC" ads on the desktop, they would (quite fairly) tell them to go shove it.

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Everytime a Windows user needs to update Apple's iTunes program for upteenth time they get an default Safari download (basically an advertisement) that they have to disengage- OK? Let's see the reaction from the fanbots if Microsoft rejects that mumbo-combo.

Judging by the fact that you said that means you don't use iTunes.
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It's not blocking advertising; Droid ads can still pop up on websites or on TVU or whatever. If Apple asked MS to ship Windows with a bunch of "I'm a Mac, and I'm a PC" ads on the desktop, they would (quite fairly) tell them to go shove it.

It's not a straight advertisement, so your point is moot.
It was an interactive app. Many music artists have them as well - diguising that fact they are basically advertisements for their themselves.
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Originally Posted by Wiggin View Post

Any Apple ad appearing on a web site run my MS or Google is paid for by Apple. Not provided for free. Why would Apple be under any obligation to provide free distribution of advertisements (via a free app on the App Store, for which Apple pays the costs to run) for a competing product? That's just absurd.

I agree, I didn't think about ads being free vs paid for.

In the end, it all comes down to distribution. apple is not obligated to distribute but apple is the only potential distributor :-p

theres nothing preventing apple from writing a windows application who's only purpose is to promote apple products (aka an adware)?
like theres nothing preventing microsoft from writing an adware for macosx.
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Everytime a Windows user needs to update Apple's iTunes program for upteenth time they get an default Safari download (basically an advertisement) that they have to disengage- OK? Let's see the reaction from the fanbots if Microsoft rejects that mumbo-combo.



MS ceded control of what could or could not be developed on the Windows platform donkey's years ago... same actually goes for OS X.

Can you install Safari on Xbox? What? No? ...world dies of shock.

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Judging by the fact that you said that means you don't use iTunes.

Yes I do - what is your point?
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It's not a straight advertisement, so your point is moot.
It was an interactive app. Many music artists have them as well - diguising that fact they are basically advertisements for their themselves.

That's a contradiction.

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Judging by the fact that you said that means you don't use iTunes.

I think he is one of the ~700 Psystar customers.

I knew when mac_dog asked his question that would be his answer (I really wish that blocking a user would mean their posts didnt come up as quoted replies). Irritable BowelBoy cant see the difference between one company creating an app specifically as an advert for a competing device and an Apple installer app that lists other options for app installs for other Windows apps they make. They arent whoring out their installer to sneak in Ask.com tool bars, just apps that they make.
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I think he is one of the ~700 Psystar customers.

I knew when mac_dog asked his question that would be his answer (I really wish that blocking a user would mean their posts didn’t come up as quoted replies). Irritable BowelBoy can’t see the difference between one company creating an app specifically as an advert for a competing device and an Apple installer app that lists other options for app installs for other Windows apps they make. They aren’t whoring out their installer to sneak in Ask.com tool bars, just apps that they make.

No- they're "whoring" out their installer to sneak in a browser application, you who know so little yet thinks they know everything (including my responses) and thinks the decade ends next year.
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Sounds like a really pointless app. (I guess there are some that would want the glowing eye thing.) But there are MANY pointless apps on the store that are accepted.

Even though its Apple's competition, kinda a lame move on their part. It would be as if Safari blocked all Dell, HP, Acer, etc ads from showing, but allowing others that Apple agreed with through. Or it would be like Windows blocking iTunes, QuickTime, or Safari from installing. (iTunes IS an ad on windows with the feature of organizing your music/videos added on.) Or even worse, Apple stopping the support and blocking any install of Windows on their machines! Imagine the backlash!

Given, having played with a Droid, I wasn't impressed (though I liked it better than the iPhone) enough to care. I don't like its advertising scheme, and I don't like how it hits out against the iPhone. I don't like how the new iPhone ads hit out against the competition either. Just make your device amazing enough that no one can touch you and advertise only your device! The iPhone has a great market share, so I understand why the Droid ads (and this app) are created to hit out against iPhone... but the iPhone ads that hit out against competition doesn't make sense to me. Apple's the thing to have, so why hit out at the competition. Just advertise the iPhone as the device that it is!
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MS ceded control of what could or could not be developed on the Windows platform donkey's years ago... same actually goes for OS X.

Can you install Safari on Xbox? What? No? ...world dies of shock.

You might want to clarify that you mean Windows OS PC desktop or hell likely come back saying that XBox is built off of Windows which wont make any sense in the context of his argument but it require a couple pages of schooling from various posters and him changing his stance several times before he finally wets himself and moves onto to another thread to troll.
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Sounds like a really pointless app. (I guess there are some that would want the glowing eye thing.) But there are MANY pointless apps on the store that are accepted.

Even though its Apple's competition, kinda a lame move on their part. It would be as if Safari blocked all Dell, HP, Acer, etc ads from showing, but allowing others that Apple agreed with through. Or it would be like Windows blocking iTunes, QuickTime, or Safari from installing. (iTunes IS an ad on windows with the feature of organizing your music/videos added on.)

Given, having played with a Droid, I wasn't impressed (though I liked it better than the iPhone) enough to care.

It's a really bad move- this will come back to haunt them, Brilliant move by Droid (Motorola)- they basically set Apple up for ridicule.
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You might want to clarify that you mean Windows OS PC desktop or he’ll likely come back saying that XBox is built off of Windows which won’t make any sense in the context of his argument but it require a couple pages of schooling from various posters and him changing his stance several times before he finally wets himself and moves onto to another thread to troll.

You're laughable and totally sad- too much turkey, not enough kool-aid?
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It's a really bad move- this will come back to haunt them, Brilliant move by Droid (Motorola)- they basically set Apple up for ridicule.

I doubt it will come back to haunt Apple. Look around here, Apple is a mainstay. It does show how Apple operates, yet again... but if you look at the increasing numbers, it hasn't had any negative affect on them, oddly.

Have you sold all your Apple devices yet?
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thinks the decade ends next year.

It does end next year, and it ends this year. Why that concept is so hard for you grasp is beyond me, but I guess 10 is big number to some people. If you lost a couple digits in special ed wood shop you might want to consider using.

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