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Intel this week released a beta software development kit to create applications for an iPhone App Store-like service, one that will come preinstalled on future Atom-powered netbooks.

Intel's product will reportedly follow the same business model as Apple's own App Store, leaving 70 percent of sales with the developer, and Intel taking a 30 percent cut to cover the costs associated with operations and partnerships, according to CNet. The Atom Developer Program SDK allows developers to build software for netbooks powered by Intel's Atom chip, whether they are running Windows or Intel's Moblin operating system.

"Consumer adoption of mobile computing and Atom-based netbooks is growing rapidly, and there is an immediate opportunity for developers to capitalize on the popularity of these small form-factor, on-the-go devices," said Renee James, corporate vice president and general manager with Intel's Software and Services Group. "We are excited about the innovation and energy from developers around creating applications and unlocking new uses for Atom platforms."

Much like Apple's App Store approval process, software created for Intel's Atom marketplace must be submitted for validation. Intel will then serve software for download to users of Atom-powered netbooks.



Given the extraordinary success of the iPhone App Store, producing more than 2 billion downloads through September, numerous competitors have looked to replicate Apple's success across a variety of business types. Intel is the latest in a line of companies in the "app store" business:

TV manufacturers and companies like Yahoo, Adobe and Roku hope to have cross-platform applications available for use on a variety of different sets. Currently, the Yahoo Widget Engine offers around 20 applications included with TV sets from a variety of manufacturers.

While not nearly as successful as Apple's App Store thus far, Google has offered the Android Marketplace on its Android-powered devices since the platform debuted, and the number of applications has been rapidly growing.

Microsoft introduced the Windows Marketplace for Mobile with the launch of Windows Mobile 6.5 in October. It debuted with 246 applications. In addition, Palm's WebOS and Nokia's Symbian Horizon are other competing options.

The largest wireless carrier in the U.S., Verizon, plans to create its own mandated application store for use on handsets that access its wireless network. The download destination would be run and maintained by Verizon itself.
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Monkey see- monkey do?
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Won't work!
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Isn't the app store called "The Internet"??
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Isn't the app store called "The Internet"??

Or "Google"
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Wow! I guess there is only one innovator in the market place...Apple; everyone else just follows.
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Do NetBooks need to fart?
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Wow! I guess there is only one innovator in the market place...Apple; everyone else just follows.

Im surprised some troll hasnt completely missed the point and stated that Apple didnt invent the App Store.
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Looks like they are copying the Linux Repository idea... only with this you have to pay for some Apps! (Knowing that a bunch of netbooks are sold with some flavor of Linux on them)

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the App Store with the "validation" system as part of it. Especially if it is the only way to get applications. Last thing I want is for Intel to lock down my netbook. Fortunately, a re-format and different OS can easily change that
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I’m surprised some troll hasn’t completely missed the point and stated that Apple didn’t invent the App Store.

True, but Apple made it successful because of its user interface and low prices. You didn't see other businesses jumping on the band wagon prior to Apple's success, did you?
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Leaving aside Moblin, which AFAIK hasn't really done anything in the market, is the idea that developers will write netbook specific Windows apps? Which will differ from "Windows apps" how, exactly?
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I’m surprised some troll hasn’t completely missed the point and stated that Apple didn’t invent the App Store.

Apple invented stores and retail in general - didn't you know that? And Al Gore invented the internet so then Apple invented that too cause he sits on their board.
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Apple invented stores and retail in general - didn't you know that? And Al Gore invented the internet so then Apple invented that too cause he sits on their board.

Pro-tip: for hyperbolic sarcasm to be marginally effective, it must bear some passing resemblance to reality.
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The World's R&D Department and Ideas Factory ... AKA Apple.
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I thought the netbook sales pitch was that they could already run all the desktop software we already have?

Is that *gasp!* not really true?
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Pro-tip: for hyperbolic sarcasm to be marginally effective, it must bear some passing resemblance to reality.

Really? Says who?
What kind of pro are you?
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Really? Says who?
What kind a pro are you?

The fact that he isn't a troll puts him at least halfway there.
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I thought the netbook sales pitch was that they could already run all the desktop software we already have?

Is that *gasp!* not really true?

Right- and Macs just work.
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Apple could easily counter this by adding a Mac App store to iTunes.

But one thing that troubles me - the intense competition on the App Store has driven down app prices to unheard of low levels. Who would have thought a few years ago you could buy quite decent programs for only $1 or $2.

But desktop computers have different kinds of apps. Many highly technical, and not really mass-market. Would an app store work for these? What would happen to prices? Don't you really want optical media for huge complex apps? It might work but it wouldn't work *as well.*
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The fact that he isn't a troll puts him at least halfway there.

He isn't? Is that because trolls can't be pompous?
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Pro-tip: for hyperbolic sarcasm to be marginally effective, it must bear some passing resemblance to reality.

Or something so absurd that the very thought of it is funny.

PS: Comedy has got to be one of the hardest professions. If its too obvious people wont laugh, if its too esoteric people wont get it. Sigh... I have always longed for better comedic timing.
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I thought the netbook sales pitch was that they could already run all the desktop software we already have?

Is that *gasp!* not really true?

Please research this first.

I can attest, that the netbook can in fact run all the desktop software we already have. My guess is that Intel will release the netbook app store (if they really are stupid enough to do it) on the Windows architecture.
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Apple could easily counter this by adding a Mac App store to iTunes.

But one thing that troubles me - the intense competition on the App Store has driven down app prices to unheard of low levels. Who would have thought a few years ago you could buy quite decent programs for only $1 or $2.

But desktop computers have different kinds of apps. Many highly technical, and not really mass-market. Would an app store work for these? What would happen to prices? Don't you really want optical media for huge complex apps? It might work but it wouldn't work *as well.*

From what I can tell, this app store is more aimed at addressing netbook performance issues with traditional Windows programs. This appears to be an admission by Intel that netbook performance on a full unrestricted OS isn't the greatest. Couple this with the fact that Google is coming out with a lite version of youtube aimed at netbooks and you start to get an argument as to why an Apple tablet should not run full OSX if you want the best user experience possible (not to mention that a tablet is touch based which makes cursor based navigational difficult).

You can buy lots of software online, from all price ranges, it just isn't available in one convenient location. If you need an optical disk, burn one yourself.
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Oh, app validation, big deal. Will they block pr0n? Will they block AMD adverts? Will they block Via stuff?

Will it be tied to a section of DRM/TPM that Intel uses?

If not, this is stupid and is nothing but another repo in a Linux distro.
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Apple invented stores and retail in general - didn't you know that? And Al Gore invented the internet so then Apple invented that too cause he sits on their board.

At the risk of being side tracked, that Al Gore quote is apocryphal. What really happened is addressed in detail here: http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
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Good Lord, even the picture is inspired by Apple. A computer / device with app icons exploding out from it.

It should be noted that the iPhone has the icons in horizontal position. Intel has theirs in vertical. BIG, BIG difference...


EDIT: I just looked at one of Apple's iPhone ads. The icons transition from horizontal to vertical. Note to self, research...then post.
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At the risk of being side tracked, that Al Gore quote is apocryphal. What really happened is addressed in detail here: http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

There's a certain segment of the population for whom "apocryphal" is a substitute for "sentience."
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At the risk of being side tracked, that Al Gore quote is apocryphal. What really happened is addressed in detail here: http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

OK that makes sense- besides a dumbass incumbent who couldn't win an election against W could hardly have invented the internet.
So he created the internet then.
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There's a certain segment of the population for whom "apocryphal" is a substitute for "sentience."

Huh??
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Huh??

Vocabulary trolling- pay it no mind.
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Huh??

I'm talking about the group who's world view is fundamentally shaped by a series of interlocking "outrages" which never happened.
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OK that makes sense- besides a dumbass incumbent who couldn't win an election against W could hardly have invented the internet.
So he created the internet then.

Can you P_L_E_A_S_E, P_L_E_A_S_E, shut up with your incessant and utterly off-topic drivel? P_L_E_A_S_E? Can you, like, get a job or girlfriend or dog or something, so that you can give it a rest once in a while?
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Can you P_L_E_A_S_E, P_L_E_A_S_E, shut up with your incessant and utterly off-topic drivel? P_L_E_A_S_E? Can you, like, get a job or girlfriend or dog or something, so that you can give it a rest once in a while?

Get on the ignore train!
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Get on the ignore train!

Come on ride the train

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Get on the ignore train!

That will not solve the problem that AI has.

IMHO, given the fact that he seems to have nothing else to do with his life except post stink-bombs here 24/7, he repeatedly ends up making threads in this site look like it is a joke, and by inference.....
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That will not solve the problem that AI has.

IMHO, given the fact that he seems to have nothing else to do with his life except post stink-bombs here 24/7, he repeatedly ends up making threads in this site look like it is a joke, and by inference.....

C'mon, Teckstud is fun to have around - he's the only intelligent person Microsoft employs.
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C'mon, Teckstud is fun to have around - he's the only intelligent person Microsoft employs.

I truly appreciate your patience and your sense of humor if you really think that is the case (no, I am not being sarcastic or snarky). I notice that you have, so far, only a few dozen posts. Give it a while, and I think you will end up on my side.

In the meantime, a lot of damage will have been done to this site.....

Look, I am not suggesting that anyone -- least of all, me -- has a monopoly on wisdom or insights. But it is truly distressing to see recalcitrant and relentless stupidity and negativity.
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Pro-tip: for hyperbolic sarcasm to be marginally effective, it must bear some passing resemblance to reality.

Yeah and horses sleep standing up! Yeah, right!
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Intel announced plans to do this well over 1 year ago.
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It absolutely slays me every time some tech company decides they are going to just up and copy Apple's success, out of the blue. Do a search for the technical details of an Intel processor. http://processorfinder.intel.com/Default.aspx That is what an Intel app store will look like. That's how it will work.

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