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post #241 of 329
12/4/09 at 2:30pm
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Originally Posted by oxygenhose View Post

Right.

BTW...
Not to pick on you, but you realize... the Lexus alone disqualifies someone from providing color/style explanations. Capital T tacky, make Escalades look almost classy. I don't mean to nitpick, but people don't typically buy a Lexus out of necessity and no amount of glue-on faux chrome or gold will ever make that L emblem into a BMW or Mercedes.

With the Vespa & black/orange rubber iPhone... just sinking deeper and deeper.

Have you heard the joke:
What do plump girls and Vespas have in common?
Both fun to ride, just don't let anyone see you doing it.

That's true- I just had Lexus on my mind. Someone at work just got one. I live in the city -no need for a car.
I'll have to use that Vespa line- maybe tonight. Peace.
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post #242 of 329
12/4/09 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

More like my Vespa and my Lexus.

Why did you edit out the "Helleaux?" you had at the end there?

I thought it made you look rather... fabulous. Perhaps even more so than me.
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post #243 of 329
12/4/09 at 2:38pm
The ad is just Motorola admitting their phone is ugly and can't compete with the iPhone on looks and sex appeal.

And the last thing I'd want is a phone that looks like it has HAL inside...'cause I'd actually want my phone to work and not go crazy.
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post #244 of 329
12/4/09 at 3:05pm
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I guess someone hasn't been reading the tech news! Android is starting to pop up on anything that has a touchscreen. Tablets, smartphones, picture frames, netbooks, and even a freaking in-car system. I'd say Android is proving itself very well.

Droid has proven itself too, with at least 250,000 sales during its launch week and on track to hit the 1 million mark before the year's end. For a phone on 1 carrier, in 1 country, that's very impressive.

But back to the topic. The one reason this ad is successful? It causes controversy. Controversy leads to recognition of an item. Whether or not this is positive or negative to the Droid is a matter of personal opinion. But you can't deny that it's getting the Droid name out there more. Hell we're all discussing it right now! Exactly what Motorola wants!

My favorite line was "duct taped to a Scud missile..."

We're all waiting.

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post #245 of 329
12/4/09 at 3:11pm
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Originally Posted by drdb View Post

This is hilarious. It's basically a schoolboy 'you're gay' comment at the iPhone.

totally agree...
this is just the beginning of the end for motorola...bye bye motorola!
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post #246 of 329
12/4/09 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by 8CoreWhore View Post

The genius of the iPhone design is it appeals to both men and woman.

you are very right, bravo
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post #247 of 329
12/4/09 at 3:22pm
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Originally Posted by bikertwin View Post

Why did you edit out the "Helleaux?" you had at the end there?

I thought it made you look rather... fabulous. Perhaps even more so than me.

I wanted to see if you were paying attention.
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post #248 of 329
12/4/09 at 3:28pm
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Originally Posted by doyourownthing View Post

totally agree...
this is just the beginning of the end for motorola...bye bye motorola!

Motorola is one bad christmas away from financial disaster --- that is why they are willing to go negative in their ads.
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post #249 of 329
12/4/09 at 3:43pm
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Originally Posted by samab View Post

Motorola is one bad christmas away from financial disaster --- that is why they are willing to go negative in their ads.

This ad does wreak of desperation, as previously stated, but Moto is far from crumbling. They have a market cap of 19 Billion, or about 4x more than Apple had at its low point, and it looks like the company as a whole made money last quarter, even though they took a $183M loss on mobiles. If they can pull out a million droids for 2009 I think well see a more confident, better Moto willing to spend some decent R&D for a decent handset next year. I certainly hope so.
http://investor.motorola.com/results.cfm
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post #250 of 329
12/4/09 at 3:49pm
"does rip through the Web like a circular saw through a ripe banana,"
This statement will come back to bite them, web access from any phone is only as good as the carrier makes it with network throughput, phone has little to do with it.
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post #251 of 329
12/4/09 at 3:54pm
Motorola appears to be a very poorly managed company, going back some years, and I'm not sure the fact they've managed to put someone else's OS on a reasonably engineered phone really changes that. They might have the Android phone of the moment, but one thing's for sure-- there will be quite a few more, from quite a few manufacturers.

Given their simply dismal performance in the handset market as of late, is there any reason to think that they've somehow turned a corner by slapping Android on a phone? Can they really execute? Can they follow up?
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post #252 of 329
12/4/09 at 3:57pm
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Originally Posted by lggeek View Post

"does rip through the Web like a circular saw through a ripe banana,"
This statement will come back to bite them, web access from any phone is only as good as the carrier makes it with network throughput, phone has little to do with it.

And, ironically, if the Droid is as successful as Verizon hopes, that will the be agent of network slowdowns, as the previously, relatively unstressed system is confronted with sharply higher data demands.
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post #253 of 329
12/4/09 at 4:01pm
Hmmm..... so why does the Motorola handset and interface look just like an iPhone then?
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post #254 of 329
12/4/09 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

I wanted to see if you were paying attention.

Just keep driving up your post count with self-centered comments.
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post #255 of 329
12/4/09 at 5:00pm
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Originally Posted by Dlux View Post

Just keep driving up your post count with self-centered comments.

It's spamming. It's really all he does.

http://forums.appleinsider.com/guidelines.html

See point 8.
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post #256 of 329
12/4/09 at 5:02pm
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

Can you seriously see any NFL player with a white iPhone?

Yes. Billy "White Shoes" Johnson didn't have a problem with the color...
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post #257 of 329
12/4/09 at 5:08pm
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

... "tiara-wearing digitally clueless beauty pageant queen."

"It's not a princess, it's a robot,"

the Droid "fast -- racehorse duct-taped to a Scud missile fast."

Who WRITES this crap? More important, I suppose - who approves and pays for this?

1) People LIKE beauty queens. That's why the Miss America Pageant, and a zillion clones of it, will run forever. And 'clueless'? Tell it to the swimsuit competition.

2) Uh... people like princesses TOO. (See #1, above)

3) Scud missile fast?? You mean, the missiles that are famous mostly for NOT HITTING THEIR TARGETS?? Those Scud missiles?

You know who these ads are REALLY for? People who were going to buy a Droid ANYWAY. For everyone else, they're a complete and utter waste. These are some of the worst ads I've ever seen, and Droid sales will reflect that fact.
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post #258 of 329
12/4/09 at 5:19pm
I got a white iPhone and I'm unabashed about it.

iPod nano 5th Gen 8GB Orange, iPad 3rd Gen WiFi 32GB White
MacBook Pro 15" Core i7 2.66GHz 8GB RAM 120GB Intel 320M
Mac mini Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz 8GB RAM, iPhone 5 32GB Black

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post #259 of 329
12/4/09 at 6:00pm
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Originally Posted by 3rd Reich View Post

Looks like some white iPhone owners are a little butt hurt over the ad

So the marketers did their job. Look how many comments and how quickly this post got this many replies. As others have said, most iPhones owners are kinda rainbow in regards to, OMG my case got scuffed and related flaws .

BTW, for the geezers reading didn't Apple used to have a "rainbow" colored logo? Guess we know what their target market is

Just checked your posting history, Mr. "3rd Reich", and every time you've posted it's been some homophobic bullshit.

So you're a little Nazi with special interests?

Could I please impose on the crowd to IM your friendly mod and get this guy banned? He has one reason to be here, and it ain't pretty.
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post #260 of 329
12/4/09 at 6:01pm
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Originally Posted by 3rd Reich View Post

Looks like some white iPhone owners are a little butt hurt over the ad

So the marketers did their job. Look how many comments and how quickly this post got this many replies. As others have said, most iPhones owners are kinda rainbow in regards to, OMG my case got scuffed and related flaws .

BTW, for the geezers reading didn't Apple used to have a "rainbow" colored logo? Guess we know what their target market is

I think its a good ad, but in all fairness this thread would still be on the 3rd page if not for Teckstuds asinine comments and people responding to him in a vain attempt to shed some light on his ignorance.
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post #261 of 329
12/4/09 at 6:14pm
You know a company is running out of ideas and getting desperate when they resort to petty name-calling.

Don't let the door hit ya on the way out, Motorola.
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post #262 of 329
12/4/09 at 6:30pm
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

We're all waiting.

http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/10...-satisfaction/

Might not have to wait for long.

http://www.fool.com/investing/high-g...he-iphone.aspx

http://blogs.computerworld.com/andro..._safari_chrome

http://androidandme.com/2009/08/news...e-from-iphone/
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post #263 of 329
12/4/09 at 6:42pm
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Originally Posted by AsianBob View Post

Might not have to wait for long.

http://www.fool.com/investing/high-g...he-iphone.aspx

http://blogs.computerworld.com/andro..._safari_chrome

I would think some serious missteps happened if Andorid doesnt surpass the iPhone OS installed based on iPhones and Touches within two years and outpace devices shipping with an Android-based OS within a year.
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post #264 of 329
12/4/09 at 6:58pm
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Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post

Well, it's kinda true. I've never seen so many people fascinated with the looks of their phone or its appearance than I do with iPhone users (myself included).

You always hear bitching about "oh, I scratched the back of it... WHAT DO I DO!?", or "OMG, my keys slightly scratched the screen -- IT'S RUINED!"

Most other phone owners don't give a shit; they just keep using their devices, battle scars and all.

I carry my phone in my pocket, keys in the other. No battle scars at all, course I do have an ncase for it & protective film for the screen (which is more for friction reduction than protection).


I've used the DROID and was hugely unimpressed. The tactile response of every touch phone I've tried has been junk, no wonder they all have to include a hardware keyboard. Also, the design isn't intuitive at all, you gotta hunt through stuff to figure out how to do anything.

Not sure what speed advantage they are talking about either, they don't feel any faster to me than my iPhone.
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post #265 of 329
12/4/09 at 7:10pm
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Originally Posted by mannyy View Post

Typically american to dumb it down to some macho BS. It's about usability and not hormones.

So "typically american" he simpered.
Funny, I think of Apple and their products as "typically american."
Leave your bigotry at home.
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post #266 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:12pm
What is the main difference between the iPhone and the iPod touch? Cellular Service............ exactly.

[Motorola, you so dumb]
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post #267 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:49pm
Motorola is probably smart to try to carve out a niche for Droid, otherwise they'd simply languish with no appealing features whatsoever. My problem with the ads are that they are aiming too young. They need to aim a little higher than the IQ of the typical "Transformers" moviegoer.

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post #268 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:59pm
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Motorola is probably smart to try to carve out a niche for Droid, otherwise they'd simply languish with no appealing features whatsoever. My problem with the ads are that they are aiming too young. They need to aim a little higher than the IQ of the typical "Transformers" moviegoer.

There is a lot of similar marketing techniques going on between the Moto Droid and the short lived Helio.

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Wireless company Helio launched today a new suite of mobile services designed to appeal to 18 to 34 year olds, as well as "the young at heart," according to the company.

The company's new offerings will be among the first of its kind to jump on the highly coveted social networking bandwagon. "MySpace on Helio" is designed specifically for MySpace users allowing them to post content directly to their MySpace page from their Helio handheld device

The new services are targeted to "consumers who have grown up wireless," said Redsun in a phone interview.

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On July 13, 2006, Helio began running TV commercials with the slogan, "Don't Call Us a Phone Company; Don't Call it a Phone." Alongside the television commercials, Helio also began advertising on billboards and in the print media, specifically in magazines that serve the 18-32 demographic, and very heavily on MySpace.
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post #269 of 329
12/4/09 at 9:54pm
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Originally Posted by ajavila85 View Post

Oh man... Thems is fightin words!!! I guess motorola is just jealous cuz he can't have an iphone!!! Cuz then they'd know the truth!!! Lolz!!!

Maybe it's just marketing. Just read an article about are macs for gays, females or graphic designers. Have lots of friend that are gay but don't use them. On the other hannd I know a lot of mac users that are gay.

Hmm. Maybe there's a conspiracy going on. Lol.
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post #270 of 329
12/4/09 at 10:04pm
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Originally Posted by hiimamac View Post

Maybe it's just marketing. Just read an article about are macs for gays, females or graphic designers. Have lots of friend that are gay but don't use them. On the other hannd I know a lot of mac users that are gay.

Hmm. Maybe there's a conspiracy going on. Lol.

"Just read an article about are macs for gays, females or graphic designers"? I have to ask, where was this article?
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post #271 of 329
12/4/09 at 11:07pm
call for desperate measures.

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post #272 of 329
12/4/09 at 11:20pm
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Originally Posted by sprockkets View Post

Someone should tell Motorola that the iphone is BOTH good looking, feels good in a hand AND is FAST.

Yeah, well. Someone should tell Apple that Windows PCs have no problem communicating with Japanese digital cameras - among other things.

Such is life in advertising.
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post #273 of 329
12/4/09 at 11:21pm
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Originally Posted by sprockkets View Post

Sorry, Moto, I'll take that blonde over a robot anyday.

Hajime Soyarama did some very nice sexy robots
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post #274 of 329
12/4/09 at 11:41pm
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Originally Posted by christopher126 View Post

Is this for real? Motorola puts out a phone ad that basically insults 51% of the buying public...women!

A bit sexist to me. I have a scuba diving, skydiving, snowboarding 25 year old daughter in Med school that looks like the blonde at the end of this ad only she's 5'11" and she has a white iPhone!

Sheez! Gimme a break!

I don't see it as insult to all women.

Motorola is playing on public opinion very common among non-Apple users - that Apple products are posh and targeting Paris Hilton & friends sort of clients.

It is basic and effective, if questionable strategy - find competition's weak spot (or at least perceived weak spot) and blow it sky high. In a way, it is something Apple has been doing for ages.

Is Motorola loosing "princess" market that way? Likely. But I guess that segment of buyers probably would never purchase phone named Droid.

I am surprised PC vendors haven't explored this approach so far - something like a princess gossiping with her friends over iSight (on her Macbook covered with flowery stickers) over Brad and Angie's millionth break up while doing her nails, against bunch of kids (both sexes) on a lan party having great fun playing a game (something not too aggressive, though).
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post #275 of 329
12/4/09 at 11:46pm
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

If your product can't unseat the competition, just call them gay or something.

Smooth.

Or imply they crash all the time, have miserable software and can't communicate with digital cameras and other peripherals...

Oh, wait...
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post #276 of 329
12/4/09 at 11:55pm
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Originally Posted by nikon133 View Post

I don't see it as insult to all women.

Motorola is playing on public opinion very common among non-Apple users - that Apple products are posh and targeting Paris Hilton & friends sort of clients.

It is basic and effective, if questionable strategy - find competition's weak spot (or at least perceived weak spot) and blow it sky high. In a way, it is something Apple has been doing for ages.

Is Motorola loosing "princess" market that way? Likely. But I guess that segment of buyers probably would never purchase phone named Droid.

I am surprised PC vendors haven't explored this approach so far - something like a princess gossiping with her friends over iSight (on her Macbook covered with flowery stickers) over Brad and Angie's millionth break up while doing her nails, against bunch of kids (both sexes) on a lan party having great fun playing a game (something not too aggressive, though).

I think people who think that "Apple products are posh and targeting Paris Hilton & friends sort of clients" (which is the purest form of dumbfuckery) grossly overestimate the number of people who think this way.

How many people think iPods are high end items only indulged in by celebrities and the like? How many people can't figure out that the iPhone costs exactly as much as the Droid or most other smartphones?

There's no "princess" market to lose, it's an idiotic conceit with no bearing on reality. iPhones are in the hands of truckers, dentists, teenagers, soccer moms, little league coaches, campers, surfers, retirees, lab assistants, carpenters and dog trainers. To try to redefine its appeal, at this point, as somehow "elitist", and to counter that ludicrous characterization with "angry, macho and loud" doesn't make a lot of sense. Except to this interesting little demographic you've described. Who are, well, you know.
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post #277 of 329
12/5/09 at 12:18am
Basically this new version has faster internet, GPS navigation and ability to download(buy) applications such as games.

The Phone will cost $199 for 8GB $299 for 16GB. Then you will have to buy a voice plan for at least $39.99/month along with a Data plan for $30/month for unlimited web surfing, then a text messaging plan for $5-$15/month.

Expect to pay $80+/month for the full service plan. I would expect AT&T will let you drop the data plan and just use this as a sweet touch screen phone.
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post #278 of 329
12/5/09 at 12:54am
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Originally Posted by aaronsullivan View Post

It would be more effective if the Droid WAS faster. It is not faster than the 3GS according to testing I've seen.
It does multitask better... but, scientifically, isn't that a more feminine trait? har-har.

Still, the Droid has a lot going for it. I'd say it's the first direct competitor to the iPhone. Android OS is set to take off. That's good for all of us as the two duke it out.

For instance, as a result of Droid success -- and I don't know how Apple might pull this off -- I'd wager that the next iPhone OS release is going to be on a multi-core iPhone and it is going to allow simultaneous app execution.

If Android wants to make inroads into the RIM/Apple empire, it needs to do so in a closed, well-controlled environment where ideally Google makes both the hardware and the software. You'ld think that companies had learned from Apple and RIM, as they are the prime examples of why that works better...

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12/5/09 at 1:05am
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Apple used to do this with their "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" ads. Now Justin Long just stands there watching PC unveil the next negative attack ad on Windows. Microsoft, however, is now extolling all the cool things you can do with WIndows 7. Whether you like their ads or not, at least they're positive and selling capabilities rather than going negative. Apple should hire Microsoft's ad agency.

With the distinction that Apple is targeting the 'merits' of Microsoft products in these "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" ads, rather than insulting potential customers...

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12/5/09 at 1:08am
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"Just read an article about are macs for gays, females or graphic designers"? I have to ask, where was this article?

Well after reading the whole pink for women I googles that then saw a discussion on if more vats(so$, use macs then googles that and it was a stupid theory of clean and neat lines blaah blaah. Many consider me meterosexual. Who cares.
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