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post #81 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:05am
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Originally Posted by whatever- View Post

Markting 101:
If you can't have a fast phone that is also pretty, just say "pretty is for girls" xD

Face it, this ad is simply code for "the iPhone is gay".
Pretty juvenile, but as others have stated, that's the target audience.

If anything, being an attractive product to women is a marketing plus, not minus. That's bigger potential target demo than insecure males.
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post #82 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:09am
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Can you seriously see any NFL player with a white iPhone?

Do you seriously think there are no gay football players?
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Even the white iPod works. But there's something about holding a white object up to your head that doesn't look quite right unless you have a Chiwawa stuffed in your purse.

You mean, doesn't look quite heterosexual?
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But you don't hold them up to your head like white fuzzy earmuffs!

No, that's not a gays-are-effeminate homophobic slur at all, is it?
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I wonder if Adam LAmbert has a white iPhone? \

I wouldn't think a heterosexual "stud" like you would even know who Adam Lambert is.
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Ouch! Strike a nerve or strike a pose?

You're good with those snarky comments. How gay is that?! And the cute exclamation point in your siggy. And the cute little Apple graphic, too.

Why don't you be a real man and come out of the closet, tech"stud".

Like I did.
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post #83 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:09am
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Back to random, indefensible emotional statements. In this case its worse, it offends many more people than it impresses.

If offends iPhone owners. Not a good thing.
Offends women, offends non-teenages, offends business people.

I agree that it wreaks of desperation, but I disagree with the overall effectiveness of the ad. The numbers should be in. Verizon and Moto should know what the average gender and age group that is buying their product. If it was being being bought by 50yo women I can assure this ad would never have been made.

I have to assume that they think the demographic they are alienating already arent Droid customers. This is what screams desperation on their part. Instead of trying to win these customers over by pointing the clear advantages they seem to now be ignoring them altogether to focus on a very select group of individuals with arguably immoral tactics. Note that I fully support this ads marketing merit while condemning its message.

Also, the whole Apple equates to gay isnt new. There are plenty of humourous images out there if you dare do a search. Safe Search is recommended.
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post #84 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:10am
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Sort of reminds me of the ads against President Obama during McCain's campaign that compared candidate Obama to the superficial celebrity Britney Spears type. That worked out really well for McCain didn't it?

I know right, my friends....hmm I see some strange parallels....

old uptight ugly outclassed manifestation (mcCain/motorola) who picks a terrible running partner (palin/verizon) that on the surface seems to be appealling (verizon's 3G non simultaneous data/voice) to hopefully save their campaign which is outflanked by a young attractive and intelligent upstart (iphone)....ironically, lets see how it takes motorola to quietly disappear in the night...
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post #85 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:13am
Sexist trailer trash talk is not appealing. This ad has so many psychological problems. Wouldn't touch that company with a 10-ft pole.
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post #86 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:14am
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Originally Posted by bikertwin View Post

Do you seriously think there are no gay football players?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5190140


You mean, doesn't look quite heterosexual?

No, that's not a gays-are-effeminate homophobic slur at all, is it?

I wouldn't think a heterosexual "stud" like you would even know who Adam Lambert is.

You're good with those snarky comments. How gay is that?! And the cute exclamation point in your siggy. And the cute little Apple graphic, too.

Why don't you be a real man and come out of the closet, tech"stud".

Like I did.

What closet?
Of course there are gay football players but are any out?
Who doesn't know Glambert?
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post #87 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:18am
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These ads do sound like a 12 year old boy attacks on a phone. Both because they are stupid, and because the party making the crude "you are gay" remarks has nothing of substance to offer.

Its funny, I have a friend who is kind of like a techno-geek, who at work loves to talk about this and that about computers, trying to make himself sound like what he's talking about nobody knows...He wound up buying an HTC G1 Dream. But the reality is, 6 months before Android phone was released I mentioned the new Android platform to him and he had no idea what I was talking about.

My friend loves to pride himself as if he is THE TECHNO-GEEK. But again, the realty is he is more like a 12 year old boy wanting to be in the in crowd of computer geeks. That's why he bought the Android HTC phone. Because its "geeky" and "cool" like that.

I am not saying the phone is not a good phone. I know it is a good alternative at this point to the iPhone and will only get better with time. But these TECHNO-GEEK wannabe cool people by having the Android which somehow makes them smarter and cooler...

Turned out after having the phone for a while he wasn't that happy with it.
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post #88 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:19am
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but curious that the attack is the other phone is more aesthetic

Why not? Every time this site showcases a non-Apple product, you can't go more than 5 comments down before someone will say it's ugly. Followed by a bunch of people agreeing with him/her/it on the subject. Most of the time it's on products where aesthetics really don't factor in. Who gives a crap if some Apple TV competitor isn't as pretty as Apple's offering if it is cheaper and more functional but people on here act like it's the only thing that matters.
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post #89 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:20am
Sweet! A German site just released a pic of the next manly phone Moto will be debuting at CES next month. My balls are dropping just looking at this phone.
http://mutantenstadl.de/uploads/Illu...7_MotImage.jpg (image)
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post #90 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:20am
"It's not a princess, it's a robot."

No, it's a cliche-ridden ad clinging to an adolescent mindset.

So not only has the Droid eliminated itself from 50% of the purchasing public, it has also alienated itself from serious business users. What a great way to artificially narrow down the demographics of potential customers.

One more ad like this and Droid might as well tie itself to the Hummer and be done with it.
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post #91 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:22am
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Look at all the money Apple threw at Justin Long and still only has 10%.

But unlike beige box shifters they take almost between 33% and 50% of the market revenue. Apple make loadsa muneee!!

The best thing about Teckstud is that he moans about Apple all of the time and puts up his snidey comments but at the end of the day he HAS an iPhone etc. Maybe he is a sicko sadomasochist?
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post #92 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:23am
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Sweet! A German site just released a pic of the next manly phone Moto will be debuting at CES next month. My balls are dropping just looking at this phone.
http://mutantenstadl.de/uploads/Illu...7_MotImage.jpg (image)

I would think they'd be tightening.
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post #93 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:23am
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

I wonder who still thinks Apple and Verizon will be teaming up for the next iPhone. Im sure there are some saucer eyed Verizon fans that expect a 64GB LTE iPhone to pop up next summer.

By Christmas this year would be better for me.
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post #94 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:26am
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Do you seriously think there are no gay football players?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5190140


You mean, doesn't look quite heterosexual?

No, that's not a gays-are-effeminate homophobic slur at all, is it?

I wouldn't think a heterosexual "stud" like you would even know who Adam Lambert is.

You're good with those snarky comments. How gay is that?! And the cute exclamation point in your siggy. And the cute little Apple graphic, too.

Why don't you be a real man and come out of the closet, tech"stud".

Like I did.


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post #95 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:26am
So it's "manly" to have to duct tape your battery to your Droid because the cover won't stay on?

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post #96 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:27am
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The best thing about Teckstud is that he moans about Apple all of the time and puts up his snidey comments but at the end of the day he HAS an iPhone etc. Maybe he is a sicko sadomasochist?

Best isnt the adjective Id use but it is ironic that all his posting reportedly come from his Mac, iPhone or iPod Touch, and will come from his AppleTV if they ever put a browser in it.
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post #97 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:28am
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

If your product can't unseat the competition, just call them gay or something.

Smooth.

Agreed. Says more about the people Motorola hires to do their commercials than iPhone users...says more about Motorola itself. Motorola isn't my idea of a emulatable company these days anyway.

So, a woman with a black iPhone, then, would be a Lesbian by their inference?
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post #98 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:28am
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Sweet! A German site just released a pic of the next manly phone Moto will be debuting at CES next month. My balls are dropping just looking at this phone.
http://mutantenstadl.de/uploads/Illu...7_MotImage.jpg (image)

The truly sad thing is Motorola practically invented the mobile phone, and should capitalize on their accomplishments. Back in the day being a Motorola engineer counted for something. But I suspect that some frat boys climbed up in management and changed the corporate culture to what we're seeing now, and they're right - it ain't pretty.

Well, maybe pretty sad.
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post #99 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:30am
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This is hilarious. It's basically a schoolboy 'you're gay' comment at the iPhone.

LOL Totally agree.
I guess they're advertising to thier perceived "Idiocracy" constituents.
On a side note, they should be careful:

"Who are they calling gay?"

http://www.grapplearts.com/labels/iphone.htm
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post #100 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:31am
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So it's "manly" to have to duct tape your battery to your Droid because the cover won't stay on?

Okay, that is actually the definition of manliness, especially when paired with a mullet haircut.
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post #101 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:34am
Motorola actually has their phone chop a banana? That's symbolism for you. What dorks.
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post #102 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:34am
At the end of the day, the iPhone is within 2% of RIM and about to pass them, has destroyed 10 years' worth of WinMo "development", and has relegated the Pre to swirling-in-the-bowl status. All in two years.

Android has yet to prove itself. Droid has yet to prove itself. And if Google releases their own phone (as we're hearing), there goes Verizon's premiere device.

We've been through all the "Macs are fruity" and "Macs are for artsy types" business years ago. It didn't work. No effect. Won't work against the iPhone. Apple simply sold more Macs. Apple will simply sell more iPhones. Done. The public knows what Apple represents, it's not for nothing that Apple commands ungodly mindshare.
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post #103 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:41am
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I agree that it wreaks of desperation, but I disagree with the overall effectiveness of the ad. The numbers should be in. Verizon and Moto should know what the average gender and age group that is buying their product. If it was being being bought by 50yo women I can assure this ad would never have been made.

I have to assume that they think the demographic they are alienating already arent Droid customers. This is what screams desperation on their part. Instead of trying to win these customers over by pointing the clear advantages they seem to now be ignoring them altogether to focus on a very select group of individuals with arguably immoral tactics. Note that I fully support this ads marketing merit while condemning its message.

Also, the whole Apple equates to gay isnt new. There are plenty of humourous images out there if you dare do a search. Safe Search is recommended.

When I posted earlier I didn't realize it was a Motorola ad and not Verizon.
Verizon has been running an excellent ad campaign.
I have no respect for Motorola. They're going down the tubes. Only a matter of time before they're bankrupt. I'm surprised they came out with anything as decent as the Droid. Must have been Google's involvement.
The HTC Droid Eris has more potential. Will be interesting to see what phones HTC comes out with.

I would not assume that a company as poorly run as Motorola would have any clue what demographic they've sold to nor would they have the ability to target an ad for that demographic. I bet they designed the phone as masculine and had this ad campaign planned before they even released the phone.
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post #104 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:43am
Did anyone else find it odd that Motorola is willing to piss off the female of the species? Last I checked, they make up a majority of the population on the planet.

All for a phone that look and acts (or tries to) just like an iPhone. This type of commercial is understandable for a beer, or maybe a 4 Wheel drive truck, as their target audience would always be a certain type of male, but on a phone?

What moron thought this was a good idea?
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post #105 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:43am
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PS: i guess Motorola and Microsoft share the same marketing people?

More like Motorola, Microsoft and Budweiser.
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post #106 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:44am
How... Republican... of Motorola and Verizon. Instead of advertising why their device is better, they'd rather attack the device's users. I really want to make the switch to Droid now! \

On the same subject; though, I love the new Palm Pixi commercial. The song gets stuck in my head every time the commercial comes on. I'd never get a Palm device, but iTunes became $.99 richer after I googled the commercial. Haha.
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post #107 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:45am
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Okay, that is actually the definition of manliness, especially when paired with a mullet haircut.

All business in the front, but party in the back (with duct tape).
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post #108 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:45am
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Look at all the money Apple threw at Justin Long and still only has 10%.

Don't be foolish, Teck . You and I both know that Apple is about profit share rather than market share. And Steve has emphatically stated that his company only operates in a certain market. Now back to your comment. How much has Apple thrown at Justin Long? And what is Apple's profit share?

That's what I thought.
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12/4/09 at 8:46am
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How... Republican... of Motorola and Verizon. Instead of advertising why their device is better, they'd rather attack the device's users. I really want to make the switch to Droid now! \
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In a way, Apple does this too with their Mac ads, but the "attack" couched in style and humour.
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12/4/09 at 8:47am
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Don't be foolish, Teck . You and I both know that Apple is about profit share rather than market share. And Steve has emphatically stated that his company only operates in a certain market. Now back to your comment. How much has Apple thrown at Justin Long? And what is Apple's profit share?

That's what I thought.

Well I'm sure if Apple had 40% share by now they wouldn't rather go back and have 10%.
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post #111 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:48am
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Look at all the money Apple threw at Justin Long and still only has 10%.

Of the most profitable segment of the market. They own the Premium end.

This has been explained to you numerous times and now you're just trolling for the hell of it. Not cool.
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12/4/09 at 8:49am
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The thing about Teckstud is that he moans about Apple all of the time and puts up his snidey comments but at the end of the day he HAS an iPhone etc.

There's a word for people who post endlessly to forums with contrarian babble for the sheer sake of eliciting a response.
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post #113 of 329
12/4/09 at 8:51am
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Originally Posted by DJRumpy View Post

What moron thought this was a good idea?

Probably the same guy who doesn't mind sleeping on the couch for months at a time.
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12/4/09 at 8:52am
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Probably the same guy who doesn't mind sleeping on the couch for months at a time.

Ziinnnnnng!!!
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12/4/09 at 8:54am
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

In a way, Apple does this too with their Mac ads, but the "attack" couched in style and humour.

Not true! What's wrong with wearing tweed jackets with elbow patches, bifocals, and having an unusually strong love for spreadsheets?
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12/4/09 at 8:55am
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In a way, Apple does this too with their Mac ads, but the "attack" couched in style and humour.

I disagree. Apple never slams a PC user. They always slam the PC. Their commercials are very specific about that.

The iPhone adds, even the newest where they even mention the competitors, are always targeted to the hardware, not the users who use it.
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12/4/09 at 8:56am
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There's a word for people who post endlessly to forums with contrarian babble for the sheer sake of eliciting a response.

WOW- you're a name caller. I'm so impressed. At least I post regarding the thread- whether you agree or disagree. What do you contribute?
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12/4/09 at 8:57am
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Originally Posted by teckstud View Post

Steve and Jonny must be LIVID! and FURIOUS!

That white iPhone was always a bit naff.

Excuse you! I like my white iPhone thanks very much. Everyone and their mother have black.

Regardless, lol at Motorola. Jealous of success?
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12/4/09 at 8:57am
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

Of the most profitable segment of the market. They own the Premium end.

This has been explained to you numerous times and now you're just trolling for the hell of it. Not cool.

Did you read above your post - my answer?
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Well I'm sure if Apple had 40% share by now they wouldn't rather go back and have 10%.
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12/4/09 at 8:59am
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Excuse you! I like my white iPhone thanks very much. Everyone and their mother have black.

Regardless, lol at Motorola. Jealous of success?

Is that you Annie Lennox?
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