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Originally Posted by EvilMole View Post

Ahh, this is why I rarely check out these forums. Pages and pages of whining whenever anyone chooses any product other than an Apple one for a "best" list.

Did you happen to notice this is not called DroidInsider? (Btw, do they even have something like that?).
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Originally Posted by AsianBob View Post

Very well said.

But had TIME given the #1 spot to the iPhone 3GS, there would be almost none of the backlash and nothing but praise for the ranking.

See above!
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I believe the iPhone got the #1 spot in 2007.
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Both forms of usage are correct. Check any usage reference source. (We go through this about once every six months on this Forum!).

Depends what you mean by "correct". Both forms are common but one doesn't mean what the user wants it to mean.
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post #125 of 257
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

What's new and exciting about the Droid? The fact that it's a recast iPhone in a horrible outer shell, sporting a lousy OS with a badly implemented app store?

It's new, and it's a novelty, and it's the best iPhone knockoff yet that did indeed make waves in the market. Which we've seen before. Sure, I get it.

Yep, the Droid is the best device for the Apple haters. Having had the 3G and now the 3GS I'll admit some of the awe of the device has worn off. However, although I hate to say it, it's become an irreplaceable part of my life and works flawlessly and doesn't require any "work" to make it work. It just does (much like OS X). Some will always be put off by Apple's lockdown on computers and devices but without it the 'magic' would not be there. I for one am happy to pay a premium for the magic as it means I can spend my time doing what's important and less time fiddling about with stuff (which used to be more fun when time was in abundance.)
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post #126 of 257
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See above!

I know I know. I get that this is an Apple-first website and the reaction isn't surprising to me in the least. It's all in relation to the post I quoted. It's not the end of the world.
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post #127 of 257
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Did you happen to notice this is not called DroidInsider? (Btw, do they even have something like that?).

http://androidforums.com/motorola-dr...m-renamed.html

The opening forum message talks about the change of name from droidforums to andriodforums.net.....funny google's android is already so fractured people do not even know how to describe it...is 1.0, 1.5, 1.6, 2.0, the NEW google Android....LOL...great marketing strategy..seems even Google's naming is still in beta mode. I bet those developers love making multiple versions of their same app.

Good luck with all the those obsolete phones that only run 1.5 (cupcake), 1.6 (donut), 2.0 (eclair)....I think it is rather unfortunate that they name their OS under codenames after marketable/taste appealing but nutritional worthless food products. Hmm, can't see the parallels there...*snark*. Once again prematurely released beta *snark* fractured, doomed to obsolescence OS that will leave a bad taste in most people's mouth *snark x 2*..

Some early issues with google's coveted but premature OS strategy


Restrictions and issues


* Android uses Linux as its kernel,[79] but according to Google, it is not a conventional Linux distribution; it does not have a native X Window System, nor does it support the full set of standard GNU libraries like its system libraries (GNU C Library). This specific modification makes it difficult to reuse existing Linux applications or libraries on Android.[80]
* Android does not use established Java standards, i.e. Java SE and ME. This prevents compatibility among Java applications written for those platforms and those for the Android platform. Android only reuses the Java language syntax, but does not provide the full-class libraries and APIs bundled with Java SE or ME.[81]
* Because of potential security issues,[82] Android does not officially allow apps to be installed on, nor run from, an SD card. Current Android products such as the HTC Dream and Magic have limited onboard memory and many users feel restricted by this lack of functionality.[83] However, several unsupported modifications exist, to give the user this capability.[84]
* ARM Holdings and RealNetworks have expressed doubt that it will gain a major market share as a netbook OS.[85]
* Responsiveness can be poor due to the limitations of Dalvik's automatic memory management.[86]
* Developers reported that it's difficult to maintain applications working on different versions of Android, because of various compatibility issues between versions 1.5 and 1.6. This however was only true in some rare cases, specifically during the ADC2 contest.[87].

my best to google, but stick with algorithms, or wait til the beta is done before releasing your vaporware...
post #128 of 257
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Everyone I know is exercising Verizon's 30 day money back deal and going back to their iphones

They'd better hurry!......or else pay a hefty $350 termination fee!!!!!
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[QUOTE=MacTripper;1532355]And Bush deserved it, don't lump him with the other criminals.

Bush and the Treasury created a wonderful real estate bubble that put a lot of people to work. Only fools didn't know what it was.

It was the Congress that changed hands under Bush and California (yea that bankrupt I.O.U giving California) liberal socialist ideals that got some banks AND the government controlled Freddie and Fannie into the failure of the sub-prime market in 2005. Their failure to adhere to the tried and true three rules of lending: Credit, Collateral and Character; is the primary reason our economy is in the mess that's it's in.



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post #130 of 257
just some idle comments:
i now have to get my english-french dictionary ready. please disclose whether it is french (from france) or from canada.

not a stalin apologist, but if i was in stalingrad during wwll when helped to stop the nazis it would be worth a thank you. the rest is all negative.

pooh poohing apple's upgrades as small tweaks, is short sighted. if they weren't done then users would be screaming. i thought that the telephone was groundbreaking and it is still groundbreaking as far as i'm concerned. apple is scrutinized as if they were tiger woods.

posters from england seem to use better grammar and spelling then many usa (not all) posters.

can somebody show a legit count for all the droid sales to date and how many were returned? from 100,000 to 800,000 is a stretch.

apple is like edmund hillary. first man to climb mt everest and he is still renowned. the others who followed are basically nameless. with global warming, i too might be able to walk to the top and be nameless.
post #131 of 257
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Originally Posted by ifail View Post

Time stated the obvious with the 3GS, its just faster. Its a rehash of 07/08 and any person who isnt an absolute blind fanboy can see that, and thats an INDISPUTABLE FACT.

Actually that isn't true and is only a well propagated myth. Speed is probably the most important feature, but it isn't the only one.

Features of the 3GS (underlined means they differ from the 3G):

Cellular and wireless
UMTS/HSDPA (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Wi-Fi (802.11b/g)
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR wireless technology

Location
Assisted GPS
Digital compass
Wi-Fi
Cellular

Power and battery
Built-in rechargeable lithium-ion battery
Charging via USB to computer system or power adapter
Talk time:
Up to 12 hours on 2G
Up to 5 hours on 3G

Standby time: Up to 300 hours

Internet use:
Up to 5 hours on 3G
Up to 9 hours on Wi-Fi
Video playback: Up to 10 hours
Audio playback: Up to 30 hours


Capacity
16GB or 32GB flash drive

Display
3.5-inch (diagonal) widescreen Multi-Touch display
480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 ppi
Fingerprint-resistant oleophobic coating
Support for display of multiple languages and characters simultaneously

Camera, photos, and video
3 megapixels
Autofocus
Tap to focus
Video recording, VGA up to 30 fps with audio

Photo and video geotagging
iPhone and third-party application integration

This was just me going through spec sheet on Apples site and comparing the two. While not major differences, it does prove your "indisputable fact" wrong. The iPhone 3GS is the iPhone 3G refined in all ways including speed. You are correct that the Droid is new and therefore a more interesting phone to report on though.

Edit: To be clear - Refinement is not the same as a rehash. It is a better phone all around.
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post #132 of 257
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Originally Posted by NasserAE View Post

The Palm Pre made most stir this year than the Droid. Everyone was talking about the Pre since the day it was announced in January 2009. Believe me it is all about who pays more and has nothing to do with logic.

I really wished I had remembered to buy Palm back in January. Could have made a mint in 5 month.
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post #133 of 257
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Originally Posted by cmf2 View Post

Actually that isn't true and is only a well propagated myth. Speed is probably the most important feature, but it isn't the only one.

Features of the 3GS (underlined means they differ from the 3G):

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Nice list but its a wasted effort. iFail is just here to troll so youre wasting your time being rational and objective.
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post #134 of 257
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

I think this souhld shed some light on the perepsctive we might take when thinking about this

From TIME's list:

http://www.time.com/time/specials/pa...945379,00.html

1. Motorola Droid: Everybody likes Android, Google's open-source smartphone operating system. But a smartphone operating system isn't all that satisfying without an actual kick-ass smartphone wrapped around it. Now Android has one: The Droid is a hefty beast, a metal behemoth without the gloss and finish of the iPhone, but you don't miss it. The Droid's touchscreen is phenomenally sharp and vivid, it has an actual physical (not great, but good enough) keyboard, and best of all, the Droid is on Verizon's best-of-breed 3G network. It's Android's first credible challenge to the iPhone. Price: $300.

2. The Nook

3. Dyson Air Multiplier

4. iPhone 3GS: Take the iPhone. Make it faster. There, you're done. Yes, the 3GS has a better camera with video. And it has a compass and voice control. Those are all improvements over the original. But the main point of, and the best thing about, the new iPhone is speed. It has more of it. Period. Price: $200 to $300.

5. Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

6. Dell Adamo XPS

7. FinePix Real 3D W1

8. Casio G-Shock GW7900B-1

9. Beats Solo by Dr. Dre

10. Panasonic G10 Series Plasma HDTVs

Thanks for posting this. I should have read it earlier.
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post #135 of 257
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Nice list but its a wasted effort. iFail is just here to troll so youre wasting your time being rational and objective.

Im trolling for calling out delusional apple fans? Sore much?
post #136 of 257
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

I think this souhld shed some light on the perepsctive we might take when thinking about this

From TIME's list:

http://www.time.com/time/specials/pa...945379,00.html

1. Motorola Droid: Everybody likes Android, Google's open-source smartphone operating system. But a smartphone operating system isn't all that satisfying without an actual kick-ass smartphone wrapped around it. Now Android has one: The Droid is a hefty beast, a metal behemoth without the gloss and finish of the iPhone, but you don't miss it. The Droid's touchscreen is phenomenally sharp and vivid, it has an actual physical (not great, but good enough) keyboard, and best of all, the Droid is on Verizon's best-of-breed 3G network. It's Android's first credible challenge to the iPhone. Price: $300.

2. The Nook

3. Dyson Air Multiplier

4. iPhone 3GS: Take the iPhone. Make it faster. There, you're done. Yes, the 3GS has a better camera with video. And it has a compass and voice control. Those are all improvements over the original. But the main point of, and the best thing about, the new iPhone is speed. It has more of it. Period. Price: $200 to $300.

5. Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

6. Dell Adamo XPS

7. FinePix Real 3D W1

8. Casio G-Shock GW7900B-1

9. Beats Solo by Dr. Dre

10. Panasonic G10 Series Plasma HDTVs

As John Dvorak once explained, these Top 10 lists are all alike... the editors gather in their bull sessions and more or less randomly choose these things. They are all expected to piece together "best of" lists so they do. It's all meaningless.

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Im trolling for calling out delusional apple fans? Sore much?

What delusions might those be? Delusions about what?
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

I think this souhld shed some light on the perepsctive we might take when thinking about this

From TIME's list:

http://www.time.com/time/specials/pa...945379,00.html
[]

Yeah, thanks for posting this. What a crappy list. The air multiplier and 3D camera are pretty cool. The worst one is the Dell Adamo XPS. Its a prime example of form over function. The Dell Adamo is a much better ultra-light notebook than the XPS in every way.
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post #139 of 257
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Both forms of usage are correct. Check any usage reference source. (We go through this about once every six months on this Forum!).

Sorry must have missed earlier threads. I was simply thanking the person who corrected the dude. I looked it up as you suggested. So I see it is a modern day American only slang corruption - here is a good explanation of the weird phrase. I doubt it is deliberate irony somehow

From Wise Geek:
I could care less is one of those idiomatic expressions, particularly in American English, that doesnt necessarily mean what it says. There are numerous suggestions for the origin of the phrase. The most recent of these is that I could care less is a corruption of the term I couldnt care less, possibly first used in the UK in the 1940s. By the 1960s, Americans had adopted I could care less. Was it laziness, poor hearing or deliberate irony?
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post #140 of 257
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No, I'm pulling it off the web. Engadget did the test.

http://dailymobile.se/2009/10/29/mot...er-speed-test/
http://homebiss.blogspot.com/2009/11...phone-3gs.html
http://www.iphoneheat.com/2009/10/br...-3gs-vs-droid/
http://www.androidcentral.com/droid-...ser-speed-test
http://www.funkyspacemonkey.com/ipho...eed-test-video

That's one sad looking OS on the Droid, that's for sure.

But I'm sure your own test might show differently. Can we see it?

Ars did a nice test as well and it showed the Droid just a smidge slower than the iPhoneGS. I believe it was 8 second average versus 9.2. Plenty of people will tolerate that second to get a network that works. Take a look at your first link for example. That iPhone is getting no service at all for a call. Yippee for being a second faster but boo for not being able to take or make a call.

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Just like "man of the year" doesn't mean "best man of the year", the "Number one gadget" doesn't mean the "best gadget." I would tend to agree with Time, that the Android is a far more important gadget this year than the 3GS.

Agreed. (Try not to pass out from the disbelief) I'm hoping Apple does something amazing this year as they often do. Likewise the resolution on these new screens is just insane.

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And there is a ton of stuff that can be added to the Droid?

The thing with Android is that there is no hardware standard. Its a hodge podge. Shit, some older phones won't run Android 2.0.

LOL!

Some older iPhones won't do MMS, support voice dialing, use a compass, support stereo bluetooth, etc. I would personally hope that Apple finds a way to make a bigger leap on the next iPhone. They should be thinking about quadrupling the number of pixels on that screen as an example. Even though I own an iPhone 2G, it shouldn't be able to do most of what the next iPhone can do nor should the 3G. They should feel like older phones and Apple should be adding new features.

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Definitely! That is just plain vanilla Android OS. After seeing what HTC has done on the Hero with their Sense GUI, I can say that the Android OS is far from sad as well. And on top of that, the Droid just got rooted. Here come the onslaught of customizable GUIs!

It's not that it just "looks" different. It is different. Three screen for live widgets. Live ticker-tape for your stocks, live Facebook and Twitter widgets that post automatically when you type in them, and many more. A simple drag-down menu for all your notifications. It's pulled away from having to press an icon to open an app to use it. The ones you constantly use are right there at the ready. Though the icon grid is still around in the form of that drag up menu. Is any of this coming for the iPhone in its next iteration?

What I'd like to see is how the HTC Bravo/Passion will change things in 2010. Better screen (AMOLED!), larger screen, faster processor, better body design (slimmer than the iPhone!)... All with the amazing Sense that the Hero has.

Just like with PC's, some of the hardware coming out is amazing. Let's hope Apple adopts it, (even if there is an Apple tax.)

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Depends what you mean by "correct". Both forms are common but one doesn't mean what the user wants it to mean.

Exactly.
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[QUOTE=MacTripper;1532355]And Bush deserved it, don't lump him with the other criminals.


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I suspect the comment about Time and Hitler, Stalin and Bush is that all three men turned out to be mass-murderers.

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Was it laziness, poor hearing or deliberate irony?

Reminds me of a famous quote by (the late) Bill Safire: "Was it ignorance or apathy? I don't know, and I don't care."
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Originally Posted by ezduzit View Post

posters from england seem to use better grammar and spelling then many usa (not all) posters.

Is this a subconscious slip or, to borrow from the last post, deliberate irony?
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What delusions might those be? Delusions about what?

That the iPhone 3GS didnt stir up the industry as much as the Droid did. Everyone has their panties in a bunch cause their phone isnt sitting pretty on the top of the list. That doesnt take away from the iphone, but Google and Moto have really worked to make the Droid a great phone, most diehard iphone fans that will walk away from the phone and call it shit simply because it doesnt have an Apple logo on it. Most people havent even TOUCHED the phone to base an opinion on it, just dropping links to other peoples opinions and following like sheep.

Im a diehard blackberry user but im willing to chalk it up to the Droid, its a good phone on a great network, if it had a better keyboard (i prefer portrait keyboards as well) i would contemplate leaving AT&T to go back to VZW for it. The Android software on it is really much better than everything before it, and with the new Droid update a lot of glitches have been fixed.
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Bottom Line is that ATT has the crappiest network in America. Far higher liklihood of dropped calls or no 3G service. Prior to getting an iPhone I had Verizon for 14 years. How many dropped calls did I get in 14 years. ONLY TWO!! One gets more than that in a day with iPhone and ATT.
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That the iPhone 3GS didnt stir up the industry as much as the Droid did.

I think I'm misunderstanding your point. Are you saying the iPhone DID stir up the industry as much as the Droid, or that it DIDN'T? Sorry, maybe i read your reply incorrectly.
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

I think I'm misunderstanding your point. Are you saying the iPhone DID stir up the industry as much as the Droid, or that it DIDN'T? Sorry, maybe i read your reply incorrectly.

the 3GS DID NOT cause as much of a stir in the industry as the Droid did for 2009.
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Bottom Line is that ATT has the crappiest network in America. Far higher liklihood of dropped calls or no 3G service. Prior to getting an iPhone I had Verizon for 14 years. How many dropped calls did I get in 14 years. ONLY TWO!! One gets more than that in a day with iPhone and ATT.

It all depends on where you live.

Check here for wireless coverage: http://reviews.cnet.com/coveragemap/

Compare where you live, work, drive for all major wireless carriers.

You really counted just 2 dropped calls in 14 years? I find that hard to believe.
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Originally Posted by trumptman View Post

Just like with PC's, some of the hardware coming out is amazing. Let's hope Apple adopts it, (even if there is an Apple tax.)

Some here would disagree, but with the rise of Android, we're seeing the PC vs. Mac battle again. Except in the smartphone format. Yes, Google somehow replaced Microsoft here, but it is what it is...

The biggest thing I'd like Apple to take from a hardware stance is an improved screen. With all these OLED screen coming out at higher resolutions, the iPhone's starting to look grainy.

But I digress from the thread topic...
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the 3GS DID NOT cause as much of a stir in the industry as the Droid did for 2009.

14 million hits on Google for "3gs", 4 million for "droid" and a lot of them are for star wars.

Now Google isn't the greatest metric to measure things by, but it does help keep things in perspective. The Droid is the new thing and magazine editors have short memories (the Pre had more hype this year). It is largely being praised for two things: an Android phone that is actually good, and a phone not called the iPhone that doesn't suck. Not the greatest reasons for a lot of press. I'd love to try the Droid sometime though, it does look like a great phone, although it would probably seem better if I hadn't used an iPhone first.
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post #152 of 257
The journalism these days is absurd...
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14 million hits on Google for "3gs", 4 million for "droid" and a lot of them are for star wars.

Now Google isn't the greatest metric to measure things by, but it does help keep things in perspective. The Droid is the new thing and magazine editors have short memories (the Pre had more hype this year). It is largely being praised for two things: an Android phone that is actually good, and a phone not called the iPhone that doesn't suck. Not the greatest reasons for a lot of press. I'd love to try the Droid sometime though, it does look like a great phone, although it would probably seem better if I hadn't used an iPhone first.

We can also look at sales. Take the best Android-based release and compare to the worse iPhone OS release, the iPhone still wins hands down. If its just silly hype then the Pre easily beats the Droid.

Its funny that it seems that even the Apple haters on this forums best argument is that you cant include the iPhone in such stats because its too good compared to the competition.
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Yeah, real mature. What are you, 12? Maybe you should go join Teckstud.

He already did, in my ignore list.
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@extremeskater. Okay pet-peeve department here. The right usage is "I couldn't care less" not "I could care less". Try to understand what you write. If you have the capacity to care even less then you already do, that means you still care a little bit. If you don't care at all, when you've hit bottom in the caring department and you can't go any lower, then you are unable to care less i.e. you "couldn't care less".

As to what you think about Android v. iPhone, I couldn't care less about the whole debate.
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What amazing new and secret technology is Verizon using to match 7.2Mbps HSDPA used in parts of the US and in a lot of places around the world?

Largest 3G, yes.

Fastest 3G, no.

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Speed trials...lol. You have been watching far too many tv ads. Its already been proven a long time ago Verizon has the fastest network and the larges 3G coverage. ATT also has the worst customer ratings.
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14 million hits on Google for "3gs", 4 million for "droid" and a lot of them are for star wars.

Now Google isn't the greatest metric to measure things by, but it does help keep things in perspective. The Droid is the new thing and magazine editors have short memories (the Pre had more hype this year). It is largely being praised for two things: an Android phone that is actually good, and a phone not called the iPhone that doesn't suck. Not the greatest reasons for a lot of press. I'd love to try the Droid sometime though, it does look like a great phone, although it would probably seem better if I hadn't used an iPhone first.

The 3GS was official way early this year (whenever Apple has their yearly announcement for stuff) compared to the Droid which was kinda murky until October/November (also known as the Sholes too) so comparatively the 3GS had a bigger head start for getting more stories thus hits on Google.

I really think if people took a step back and were objective they would easily find things they like and dislike about the phone if they used one. IF its enough to sway you to switch is only determined by you and your preferences ultimately. By far the best Android phone out thus far without a doubt.
post #158 of 257
Who cares what Time says, they are utterly useless pos of a magazine which is going down in flames. They probably were paid off by Motorola and Verizon like all these other so called Top tens and the consumer reports which was also paid off by Verizon, these studies and top lists have nothing to do with anything anymore except money. What a bunch of BS!! Cannot wait for the day Time Magazine folds which should be soon!!!!


The iPhone is hands above the droid, can the droid do pinch and pull zoom, oh wait no. Can the droid take better photos than the iPhone, oh wait not even that. Can the droid break because of moving parts, oh yes. The droid is 2 years behind the iphone and is a hunk of metal crap that feels horrible in your hands. Whatever Time and other people say all I have to say is 100,000 droids sold on the first weekend and 1 million iPhone 3gs sold in one weekend, I guess consumers have spoken and what they say is the iPhone is the number one gadget for 2009 no matter what some stupid paid off magazine says!!!

The iPhone sold just as many droids did in the first weekend in the US in South Korea, what does that say?
post #159 of 257
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

You are right you cant compare the two the Droid does everything alot faster.

Are you on crack or just a troll? I've played with the Droid extensively and it's slow and clunky once you use it for more than an hour or two. It's probably just software that will be improved over time but right now your statement is completely false.
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Originally Posted by noexpectations View Post

It all depends on where you live.

Check here for wireless coverage: http://reviews.cnet.com/coveragemap/

Compare where you live, work, drive for all major wireless carriers.

You really counted just 2 dropped calls in 14 years? I find that hard to believe.

I dont think anyone would keep count over how many dropped calls they have had over 14 years, this is obviously a lie!!! Also how could you be a verizon wireless subscriber for 14 years when Verizon wireless was founded in 1999 which is 10 years ago? That seems odd to me?

Here is some history for you

Verizon Wireless traces its roots to Bell Atlantic Mobile, NYNEX Mobile Communications, AirTouch Communications, PrimeCo Communications, and GTE Mobilnet. Bell Atlantic Mobile and NYNEX Mobile Communications merged in 1995 to create Bell Atlantic - NYNEX Mobile,[5] and in 1997 their namesake Baby Bell parents followed suit to form the new Bell Atlantic and their wireless subsidiary was renamed Bell Atlantic Mobile. Bell Atlantic Mobile and NYNEX Mobile Communications was created from Advanced Mobile Phone Service, Inc., which was a subsidiary of AT&T created in 1978 to provide cellular service nationwide. AMPS, Inc. was divided among the RBOCs as part of the Bell System Divestiture.
Meanwhile, in June 1999, AirTouch Communications of San Francisco, California merged with UK-based Vodafone Group Plc, forming Vodafone AirTouch Plc. In September 1999, Vodafone AirTouch announced a $90-billion joint venture with Bell Atlantic Corp. to be called Verizon Wireless, and which would comprise the two companies' U.S. wireless assets: Bell Atlantic Mobile and AirTouch Paging. This wireless joint venture received regulatory approval in six months, and began operations as Verizon Wireless on April 4, 2000. On June 30, 2000, the addition of GTE Wireless' assets, in connection with the merger of Bell Atlantic and GTE to form Verizon Communications, made Verizon Wireless the nation's largest wireless communications provider. Verizon held that position until Cingular's acquisition of AT&T Wireless in 2004, and again after their acquisition of Alltel in 2009.[6] For the joint venture, Verizon Communications owns 55% and UK-based Vodafone Group (formerly Vodafone AirTouch) owns 45%.[2] The name "Verizon," a portmanteau, is derived by combining the word "veritas," a Latin term that means "truth," and the word "horizon." Together, they are supposed to conjure images of reliability, certainty, leadership, and limitless possibilities.[7]
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