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post #41 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:39am
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

Yeah grabbing a quote from 1943 in regard to technology. That sounds about right for you.

Seriously?

your reading comprehension is lacking if you don't see how he's applying that quote.
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post #42 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:40am
Cue the "Time is a dreadful publication" comments.

The iPhone hasn't changed much this year. It got faster and added a compass (as well as some long needed software features). Apple tends to come up with a great idea, then spend a lot of time refining it. Although it will likely be superseded by next month's hottest phone, the Droid is at least 'new' for 2009. Plus the navigation feature seemed pretty cool.

Plus, I'd rather my iPhone become more of a standalone device than tied to software like iTunes, and it is for the most part... except for when the battery runs out. The Lala acquisition will hopefully move more stuff to the web, reducing its iTunes reliance.
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post #43 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:40am
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It's not a pathetic talking point. Apple's commercial on the subject pretty much mirrors what I do in real life every day. I work for a very large software company and I depend on my iPhone every day for me to reach out to my customers and people in my company. iPhones in my company are fully supported for email and at the end of the month, will be fully supported for calendaring via CALDAV. I spend a lot of time on the phone as I travel and I'm always pulling up emails that someone I'm talking to asks me about, or attachments they want me to read (Word, PPT and Excel). If I had to hang up the phone every time I needed to do a data operation, I'd be pissing off a lot of people I talk to....either that or get a second phone.

The only time AT&T network is a real problem with this concerns the Edge network. If you're roaming on 3G and you enter an Edge zone, when you come back to 3G, most likely you can't reenter the ability to do data at all. In this case, the only way to fix this is to hang up and let the phone reconnect with the data network, then redial. I've done this in cases where I truly needed both and it's a pain.

Lastly, I think everyone agrees that Verizon's 3G network is far broader than AT&Ts, but AT&Ts is faster in limited markets. But I'd have to wonder if we'd all be talking about Verizon badly if its data network was burdened by 20 million iPhones. Verizon's overall data load has to be far smaller than AT&T's despite them having 8-9 million more customers. I don't like defending AT&T and their network problems...it's certainly real. But I doubt Verizon users would be gleefully happy if the same number of iPhone customers were on their network.

Well the fact is the Verizon network is burdened with 20 millon iPhones and I can't think of anyone that wants to deal with the EDGE network. Like you I work for a large IT company in fact one of the largest global companies so I could care less about something being 'cool" or how rounded the edges are, I need something that works all the time and works well all the time. Like most Apple products they make for good consumer products yet not for business.
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post #44 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:41am
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Originally Posted by halfyearsun View Post

Seriously?

your reading comprehension is lacking if you don't see how he's applying that quote.

Of course. But its far better to make fun of him seeing he likes to follow people around the forum and say alot of nothing.
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post #45 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:42am
google voice nuff said.
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post #46 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:42am
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

They are talking about the Droid hardware not the Verizon or ATT network. Most users could care less about simultaneous voice and data, its just become a pathetic talking point for ATT users. Verizons network blows away ATT.

Most users *couldn't* care less because they've never tried it. I can't stand having phone calls on EDGE because of that now.

Ten years ago most users *couldn't* care less about text because they could just call the person.
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post #47 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:42am
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

*yawn*

Seen it all before.

http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2009/...ion-benchmark/

http://palm.pdablast.com/articles/20...-Ranks-in.html

It's all fun and games until the next iPhone. Then it's back to the drawing board for everyone else.

Yeah, maybe they'll add copy-paste, mms, tethering, external physical attachments, an apple-branded POS, or "speed" like last time.

Or maybe they'll really think out of the box and worry about the big ones: letting real apps on the phone (latitude, G voice), actual bluetooth, or gasp another way to get apps on the phone.
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post #48 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:43am
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Of course. But its far better to make fun of him seeing he likes to follow people around the forum and say alot of nothing.

Funny, that's my impression of you!
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post #49 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:43am
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Go have fun with your Droid. If you care so little about the iPhone or ATTs network, why are you posting on this? Also, you don't know me or what I do with my time. I don't watch TV ads, I have a DVR.

I don't own a Droid but have have used one for an extended period of time. Why shouldn't I post on this? If I am wrong then show me these great speed trials that took place.
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post #50 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:44am
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

Of course. But its far better to make fun of him seeing he likes to follow people around the forum and say alot of nothing.

How does this explain your sad attempt at dismissing his quote based on the date?
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post #51 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:44am
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Originally Posted by DanielDecker View Post

Funny, that's my impression of you!

Really with all of your 12 posts so far.
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post #52 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:44am
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Originally Posted by halfyearsun View Post

Most users *couldn't* care less because they've never tried it. I can't stand having phone calls on EDGE because of that now.

Ten years ago most users *couldn't* care less about text because they could just call the person.

He got grammar pwned! Nice.
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post #53 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:46am
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Most users *couldn't* care less because they've never tried it. I can't stand having phone calls on EDGE because of that now.

Ten years ago most users *couldn't* care less about text because they could just call the person.

Okay so ten years from now we can come back and see if this is still an issue on the Verizon network.
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post #54 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:46am
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Okay so ten years from now we can come back and see if this is still an issue on the Verizon network.

Which will prove that ATT was ahead of the curve on something you said people wouldn't care about.
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post #55 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:48am
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

Okay. Thats how long you have had your head stuck up your ass?

Here's some free advice: (i) Grow up; (ii) Watch your language.
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post #56 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:49am
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

Speed trials...lol. You have been watching far too many tv ads. Its already been proven a long time ago Verizon has the fastest network and the larges 3G coverage. ATT also has the worst customer ratings.

What r u talking about...? where is vzw faster than att???
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post #57 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:49am
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

Really with all of your 12 posts so far.

So post levels determine intelligence?
Could you thump your chest a little harder?

I can guarantee you that I have been in these forums longer than you. Just about everyday since sometime in 2000.

From your attitude, I would gather that a higher post count could lead to increased douche-like behavior, since we seem to be making assumptions about each other based on some meaningless number.
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post #58 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:50am
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Okay. Thats how long you have had your head stuck up your ass?

Yeah, real mature. What are you, 12? Maybe you should go join Teckstud.
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post #59 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:50am
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Time magazine has named the Motorola Droid the No. 1 gadget of 2009 ...

what everyone seems to be forgetting is that Time is an irrelevant coffee table magazine now on the same level as USA Today, People, and Maxim. It's not a magazine that prints "the stories of our lives" anymore. It's just another crappy magazine and it doesn't even have a tech focus or anyone who writes for it that knows anything about product design.

In short, who cares?

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post #60 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:52am
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Originally Posted by MacTripper View Post

GOOD!


I think the iPhone is sissy and childish looking anyway, just like OS X, but I use OS X for it's security, not it's candy ass looks..

I like the idea that the Droid appeals to REAL MEN and solves their needs.

Hey now! Don't be dissing my white iPhone!
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post #61 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:53am
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I don't own a Droid but have have used one for an extended period of time. Why shouldn't I post on this? If I am wrong then show me these great speed trials that took place.

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showp...9&postcount=35
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post #62 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:54am
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

*yawn*

Seen it all before.

http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2009/...ion-benchmark/

http://palm.pdablast.com/articles/20...-Ranks-in.html

It's all fun and games until the next iPhone. Then it's back to the drawing board for everyone else.

I agree with *yawn*, the iPhone is boring. Power to the Droid!
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post #63 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:54am
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..... he likes to follow people around the forum and say alot of nothing.

Nah. I just like to highlight the fluff.
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post #64 of 269
12/9/09 at 7:54am
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Hitler was TIME Magazine's Man Of The Year in 1938. Stalin was TIME Magazine's Man Of The Year for 1939 and 1942. George W. Bush was also picked twice, 2000 & 2004.


And Bush deserved it, don't lump him with the other criminals.

Bush and the Treasury created a wonderful real estate bubble that put a lot of people to work. Only fools didn't know what it was.

It was the Congress that changed hands under Bush and California (yea that bankrupt I.O.U giving California) liberal socialist ideals that got some banks AND the government controlled Freddie and Fannie into the failure of the sub-prime market in 2005. Their failure to adhere to the tried and true three rules of lending: Credit, Collateral and Character; is the primary reason our economy is in the mess that's it's in.

The Bush Treasury had to take control and fire the CEO's of both Freddie and Fannie, after repeatably warning the out of control new Congress about their "Socializing the risks and privatizing the profits" - Alan Greenspan to Congress, concerning the two GSE's. It's this stopping of their socialist "everyone has a right to own a house" ideals is the reason they blamed the Bush administration for the near worldwide economic collapse, when it really was their fault of irresponsible mandatory lending to the GSE's and banks under the Community Reinvestment Act revisions made by socialist Bill Clinton.


In a real estate bubble, it's speculative, a game of musical chairs, the last owning the property loses.

It's a game not for the working, struggling or the poor. But the Democratic controlled Congress made it so.

Conservative banks are doing fine today. The banks that managed to dump their toxic sub-prime mortgages before the bubble blew are also doing ok. Everyone who prepared for the downside are doing ok today.

Everyone who has taken even a entry level economics course in high school know what a post real estate bubble recession is. What made this one so much worse was the sub-prime.

Rich people usually only gamble with what they have extra, not their only house.

Where did the first and most banks fail than anywhere else? California.

Where the sub-prime lending mess started? California.

Where is the "home" of the liberal media empire? California.




Read Charles Gasperino's book: The Sellout. Explains who is responsible for making this mess worse than it is.
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post #65 of 269
12/9/09 at 8:00am
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http://forums.appleinsider.com/showp...9&postcount=35

well. played.
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post #66 of 269
12/9/09 at 8:02am
Everyone I know is exercising Verizon's 30 day money back deal and going back to their iphones
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post #67 of 269
12/9/09 at 8:03am
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And Bush deserved it, don't lump him with the other criminals.

Bush and the Treasury created a wonderful real estate bubble that put a lot of people to work. Only fools didn't know what it was.

It was the Congress ...

This is just utter, raving, lunatic nonsense.

It never ceases to amaze me how people in general can have reasonable intelligent arguments about technology, and then when politics comes up they start frothing at the mouth like moronic three year olds.

Unless you are Rush Limbaugh in real life, ... you have been brainwashed.

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post #68 of 269
12/9/09 at 8:03am
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And Bush deserved it, don't lump him with the other criminals.

Bush and the Treasury created a wonderful real estate bubble that put a lot of people to work. Only fools didn't know what it was.

It was the Congress that changed hands under Bush and California (yea that bankrupt I.O.U giving California) liberal socialist ideals that got some banks AND the government controlled Freddie and Fannie into the failure of the sub-prime market in 2005. Their failure to adhere to the tried and true three rules of lending: Credit, Collateral and Character; is the primary reason our economy is in the mess that's it's in.

The Bush Treasury had to take control and fire the CEO's of both Freddie and Fannie, after repeatably warning the out of control new Congress about their "Socializing the risks and privatizing the profits" - Alan Greenspan to Congress, concerning the two GSE's. It's this stopping of their socialist "everyone has a right to own a house" ideals is the reason they blamed the Bush administration for the near worldwide economic collapse, when it really was their fault of irresponsible mandatory lending to the GSE's and banks under the Community Reinvestment Act revisions made by socialist Bill Clinton.


In a real estate bubble, it's speculative, a game of musical chairs, the last owning the property loses.

It's a game not for the working, struggling or the poor. But the Democratic controlled Congress made it so.

Conservative banks are doing fine today. The banks that managed to dump their toxic sub-prime mortgages before the bubble blew are also doing ok. Everyone who prepared for the downside are doing ok today.

Everyone who has taken even a entry level economics course in high school know what a post real estate bubble recession is. What made this one so much worse was the sub-prime.

Rich people usually only gamble with what they have extra, not their only house.

Why did the first and most banks fail in California than anywhere else? Where the sub-prime lending mess started? California. Where is the "home" of the liberal media empire? California.


Read Charles Gasperino's book: The Sellout. Explains who is responsible for making this mess worse than it is.

I have to admit, I don't normally agree with much of anything you say, but finally, somebody who has sense on these issues. Someone who actually does research, knows the facts, and makes a rational decision, rather than jumping on the "Bush sucks" bandwagon just because it was the cool thing to do.
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post #69 of 269
12/9/09 at 8:04am
Oh, yet another squabble over nothing and 4-letters flying over the topic. Just as on french forums...
Our obscenities are usually way milder, though.

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post #70 of 269
12/9/09 at 8:07am
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well. played.

I knew I could count on Quadra from some links. Hell they are even new links. I'll have to check these out.
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post #71 of 269
12/9/09 at 8:08am
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

They are talking about the Droid hardware not the Verizon or ATT network. Most users could care less about simultaneous voice and data, its just become a pathetic talking point for ATT users. Verizons network blows away ATT.

I have no love for ATT, but then again, I get NO Verizon signal in my apt in the middle of Manhattan.
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post #72 of 269
12/9/09 at 8:09am
Dear All,

It would seem some of you require a reminder as to the posting guidelines.

I have deleted a few recent posts in this thread in an attempt to stop it derailing completely.

Please try to make sure your posts are on topic and add to the discussion with well-reasoned arguments rather than personal attacks and slights.
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post #73 of 269
12/9/09 at 8:10am
FYI Google Android has been in development since before 2005.

I like the HTC Droid Eris over Motorola.. the M Droid is a piece of sh&t..

I have an iPhone & I have played with the Droid for a few weeks. Android is a great OS that will get better as time goes on but to me, it still has the Beta feel to it. The greatest thing about Google is the updates it sneaks into everything they do..

I do think Apple has more R & D that they hold back until they need to use it.. When they get competition, they will show something better. Competition = Good.. and to whomever it was that said there is nothing left for Apple to improve on, thats not what makes Apple, Apple.

My final thought on stupid ass weeds that write crappy articles (I am not a writer so don't give me crap about my writing).. The iPhone pushed everyone to be better.. All the years of companies making pieces of sh&t then Apple comes along and blows everyone out of the water.. Show some Fing respect..I do have to mention the RIM's blackberry deserves respect for trying to make phones better but those asswipes charged for everything extra on the phone.
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post #74 of 269
12/9/09 at 8:10am
The thing about the iPhone vs. Droid comparison is the availability of aftermarket accessories. First, there basically is none for any or the Droid phones. Second, you can get accessories for the original iPhone, still. My LG phone I got from Verizon last year is basically obsolete and I can't even get a case for it. The same fate awaits these Droid phones. The iPhone has longevity as a purchase. This is something the Droid users are missing out on.
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post #75 of 269
12/9/09 at 8:11am
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You can stop posting to me at any time. Loser.

would I want to do that? It is a burden for those of us that are gifted with above average intelligence to fight ignorance and stupidity wherever we find it, and you sir, are providing me with plenty of ammo. Besides, while walking in the woods, sometimes you can't help but poke the pile of poo...

Nice ad hominems, BTW.
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post #76 of 269
12/9/09 at 8:13am
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Same magazine who sat around while Obama fooled his own country.

Ireland your spellcheck is broke, I fixed your post for you.

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Originally Posted by MacTripper View Post

GOOD!

Glad to see some competition for the iPhone.

One of the few posts on this topic that makes sense. I agree and hope this spurs Apple into making iPhone version 4 an even better product.

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Hitler was TIME Magazine's Man Of The Year in 1938. Stalin was TIME Magazine's Man Of The Year for 1939 and 1942. George W. Bush was also picked twice, 2000 & 2004.

I'll bet you $5 Obama is it in 2009.


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This is just utter, raving, lunatic nonsense.

Actually I thought the original post made a lot of sense, and from what I've read and heard is what happened. Can you enlighten us all as to what was wrong with the information given?
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12/9/09 at 8:14am
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I don't think you get it. They're talking about what's new and exciting in the world, that's the entire point of their "Top 10 of Everything" series. I've got the iPhone 3GS and I love it, but they're very much correct in that it's more or less the same thing we've used for years. There's a lot that's new and exciting about Droid, even if you seem to think it's terrible (which I certainly do not). It made #1 because it made waves in the market, not because it's the "best phone".

The iPhone 3GS is the iPhone 3G with under under the hood tweaks. The Droid is all-new. It should not surprise anyone that it tops the iPhone in a "top X of 2009" list. Books from 2007/2008 may still be great, but they don't make the top of the Top 10 Books of 2009 list when a new edition is released.

Yes, the Droid is new, but could you tell me what's "new and exciting" about it? I've played with one and I just don't see it.
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12/9/09 at 8:14am
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Oh, yet another squabble over nothing and 4-letters flying over the topic. Just as on french forums...
Our obscenities are usually way milder, though.

Je pense que les Français ont tendance Ã* faire avec un peu plus style, cependant. Il sonne plus comme un duel, plutôt que les enfants combats. N'est-ce pas?
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12/9/09 at 8:14am
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And Bush deserved it, don't lump him with the other criminals.

Bush and the Treasury created a wonderful real estate bubble that put a lot of people to work. Only fools didn't know what it was.

It was the Congress that changed hands under Bush and California (yea that bankrupt I.O.U giving California) liberal socialist ideals that got some banks AND the government controlled Freddie and Fannie into the failure of the sub-prime market in 2005. Their failure to adhere to the tried and true three rules of lending: Credit, Collateral and Character; is the primary reason our economy is in the mess that's it's in.

The Bush Treasury had to take control and fire the CEO's of both Freddie and Fannie, after repeatably warning the out of control new Congress about their "Socializing the risks and privatizing the profits" - Alan Greenspan to Congress, concerning the two GSE's. It's this stopping of their socialist "everyone has a right to own a house" ideals is the reason they blamed the Bush administration for the near worldwide economic collapse, when it really was their fault of irresponsible mandatory lending to the GSE's and banks under the Community Reinvestment Act revisions made by socialist Bill Clinton.


In a real estate bubble, it's speculative, a game of musical chairs, the last owning the property loses.

It's a game not for the working, struggling or the poor. But the Democratic controlled Congress made it so.

Conservative banks are doing fine today. The banks that managed to dump their toxic sub-prime mortgages before the bubble blew are also doing ok. Everyone who prepared for the downside are doing ok today.

Everyone who has taken even a entry level economics course in high school know what a post real estate bubble recession is. What made this one so much worse was the sub-prime.

Rich people usually only gamble with what they have extra, not their only house.

Where did the first and most banks fail than anywhere else? California.

Where the sub-prime lending mess started? California.

Where is the "home" of the liberal media empire? California.




Read Charles Gasperino's book: The Sellout. Explains who is responsible for making this mess worse than it is.

Wow - you really believe it too.
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12/9/09 at 8:16am
Media needs a horse race. Much easier to write stores on that than to do actual reporting.

Its the same reason that the media in 2000 built up Bush and hammered Gore. Not singling out that particular race, because they do it every time. Build up the underdog and hammer the leader in order to make it a more interesting horse race.

Same thing here.
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