Originally Posted by jahonen
Of course you can argue, but what facts do you have to support it? The 2009 report http://www.evertiq.com/news/15198
contains the lates info and endorses Apple for the right direction. Sure it's greenpeace, but if you look at older reports, they quite clearly state why Apple hasn't been in the forefront and why Nokia has. The same criteria had been applied to others. Recycling is not the reason why Apple has been at the back of the list. Apple has been "partially good" at that.
A quote from the 2007 report "Apple was the lowest-ranked electronics manufacturer in the last Greenpeace Guide to Greener Electronics, but makes the biggest jump this time, into 10th place, thanks to pressure from Apple fans around the world through the Green my Apple campaign. " Pretty much how I remembered it from back then and a good direction.
And yes, Nokia ranked #1 or #2 on all of those reports that I could find whereas Apple ranked from last to mid-field. That was the whole point of the original responce. And why would Greenpeace have picked Apple as the mark back in 2006 "for publicity reasons" since other bigger players were on the same list?
Here's the corresponding page from Nokia: http://www.nokia.com/environment
. Green is "fashion of today". But Nokia's been at it for quite a long time.
But, this is so far off topic, that it's time to stop this stream of thought and conclude that both are doing a lot of green stuff nowadays, the original posting about Nokia being an environmental badboy was just badly off the mark (as it would have been for Samsung or SE).
Direct GreenPeace Report:http://www.greenpeace.org/raw/conten...12-edition.pdf
Ironically, Nokia's ranking is centered around phones.
Apple's ranking is centered around the desktops, laptops, phones, ipods, servers, monitors, etc.
Apple gets heavily dinged for not releasing Energy reports from their campus and more.
Seeing as they've been preparing to build an energy green campus it should be expected you won't know their footprint until that's operational.
Perhaps Apple should spin off Apple Mobile so it can get a high ranking?
Hell, SONY Ericsson gets nearly as high ratings as NOKIA but SONY proper gets lower rating than APPLE. Gee I imagine it has to do with the fact SONY does a helluva a lot more than phones and those cheap miniPCs.
Samsung gets brownie points for:GOOD (3+) Points
Samsung Electronics supports
global mandatory cuts of
Greenhouse Gas emissions of at
least 50% by 2050 (from 1990
levels) and cuts by industrialised
countries of at least 30% as a
group by 2020. Samsung scores
maximum points for also calling for
global greenhouse gas emissions
to peak by 2015.
Wow! Lip Service. Give points for actual action, not talk.
APPLE gets 0 Points because they haven't given them an answer [Lip Service].