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post #81 of 336
12/12/09 at 4:52pm
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Thats true. By the way Asus also makes a multitouch pad on their 300.00 netbooks. Works just as well as the one on the 1800.00 Macbook Air.

Would you like the link to the Asus forum?
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post #82 of 336
12/12/09 at 4:54pm
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The iPhone peaking is simply my opinion. However I will be happy to come back later in 2010 and address the issue again to prove I was correct.

I have a feeling that you deemed the iPhone a failure before it launched and have since claimed that it had finally reached its feasible EOL up to and including this day. Are you simply going to say it’s going to be a failure until your prophecy comes true? I assure you that both Apple and iPhone will fall at some point. It doesn’t take one as “logical” as you to figure that out.

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Sony, Asus, HP all off multitouch screen on their computers which work rather well. Something that Apple doesn't offer on their computers.

That makes sense when you have a mouse/trackpad and keyboard in front of you. It’s a gimmick! Holding your arms up to use your computer as a touchscreen because it’s technical possible is not “logical”.

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Hell we are just now moving to quad cores on Apple systems. Can't expect too much all at once. How about the wonderful display port on the nice iMac that can only function with other displayport devices, yeah that was innovative.

And I bet the next MBPs will still be dual-core because the dual-core 35W Core-i7 32nm Arrandales make more sense than the quad-core 45W Core-i7 45nm Clarksdales, but it’s my opinion that you’ll complaint that is cheating their customers out of two cores.
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post #83 of 336
12/12/09 at 4:55pm
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Well, it doesn't have a keyboard. Who wants to verbalize all of their texting and email?!

I think they call that a phone call.
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post #84 of 336
12/12/09 at 4:56pm
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Put very simply, the iPhone is to the mobile industry what Jesus was to the Apostles. No joke.

You are disturbingly delusional.
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post #85 of 336
12/12/09 at 4:59pm
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Would you like the link to the Asus forum?

I don't need one do you?
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post #86 of 336
12/12/09 at 4:59pm
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I have a feeling that you deemed the iPhone a failure before it launched and have sense claimed that it had finally reached it feasible EOL up to and including this day. Are you simply going to say it’s going to failure until your prophecy comes true? I assure you that both Apple and iPhone will fall at some point. It doesn’t take one as “logical” as you to figure that out.


That makes sense when you have a mouse/trackpad and keyboard in front of you. It’s a gimmick! Holding your arms up to use your computer as a touchscreen because it’s technical possible is not “logical”.


And I bet the next MBPs will still be dual-core because the dual-core 35W Core-i7 32nm Arrandales make more sense than the quad-core 45W Core-i7 45nm Clarksdales, but it’s my opinion that you’ll complaint that is cheating their customers out of two cores.

I think we've reached the point in the inveterate, irrational Apple hater's screed where they shift from some clearly indefensible position (the iPhone ain't shit!) to tired old Apple sux droning.

If you have to start in on the processors Apple uses in its desktops to bolster your bluster about the iPhone, you probably don't have a leg to stand on.
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post #87 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:00pm
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I think we've reached the point in the inveterate, irrational Apple hater's screed where they shift from some clearly indefensible position (the iPhone ain't shit!) to tire old Apple sux droning.

If you have to start in on the processors Apple uses in its desktops to bolster your bluster about the iPhone, you probably don't have a leg to stand on.

Actually what I find interesting on this forum is how easy it is to make the fanbois come out from under their rocks when you say one thing that they don't deem as positive.

No one said Apple sucks. Yet your eyes somehow read that.
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post #88 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:08pm
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Thats great 17% of the worldwide smartphone in 2 years. Did that put anyone out of business?

It effectively killed Windows Mobile. MS has chosen to try again in late 2010. So poor, long-suffering MS fans will have to wait another year to get something, anything, that might very well end up sucking only marginally less than the previous failure. It has all but buried the Pre. Carriers are practically giving them away now. Motorola was forced to rethink its strategy completely. No one's really out of business. Most of the tech outfits that can afford to market a smartphone in the first place will have enough in the tank absorb failures, although some have their doubts about Palm.

Will the iPhone ever be #1? Again, you tell me. 17% in two years, about to overtake RIM, with Nokia in a downward slide. Will you settle for a strong #2 in a year's time?

Deliberately acting unimpressed just for the sake of doing so or because you have a fetish for playing the contrarian, simply raises more questions about why you're camping an Apple fansite in the first place.
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post #89 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:08pm
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In any event, from what I understand, Apple's iPhone doesn't even allow you to find the contact you want to call with voice. Is that because AT&T wants customers to pay their $4.95 charge for that service?

That's the problem with talking about something you've never used. You end up just being wrong half the time.
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post #90 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:14pm
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I have a feeling that you deemed the iPhone a failure before it launched and have sense claimed that it had finally reached it feasible EOL up to and including this day. Are you simply going to say its going to failure until your prophecy comes true? I assure you that both Apple and iPhone will fall at some point. It doesnt take one as logical as you to figure that out.


That makes sense when you have a mouse/trackpad and keyboard in front of you. Its a gimmick! Holding your arms up to use your computer as a touchscreen because its technical possible is not logical.


And I bet the next MBPs will still be dual-core because the dual-core 35W Core-i7 32nm Arrandales make more sense than the quad-core 45W Core-i7 45nm Clarksdales, but its my opinion that youll complaint that is cheating their customers out of two cores.


I never deem anything a failure. However even you can't deny that if ATT caps iPhone data and Apple needs to go to TMobile which is the only place they can go besides ATT that doesn't exactly spell a great future. At least in the US.

Actually touch screen are nice if you didn't think so you wouldn't like the iPhone. Just because its on a laptop or desktop does't make it a gimmick. However you are certainly allowed your opinion.

When it comes to the MBP Apple will do what is always does and that is disappoint users when it comes to their hardware offerings. Remember this is the company that milked the G4 in its notebooks forever. They needed to finally build an AIO large enough when they could start to use desktop chips in something that was a desktop. Also I think its wishful thinking that Apple will go with the Arrandales. When was the last time Apple ever updated thier new products with the very lastest chip offering?
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post #91 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:18pm
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I never deem anything a failure.

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post #92 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:19pm
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It effectively killed Windows Mobile. MS has chosen to try again in late 2010. So poor, long-suffering MS fans will have to wait another year to get something, anything, that might very well end up sucking only marginally less than the previous failure. It has all but buried the Pre. Carriers are practically giving them away now. Motorola was forced to rethink its strategy completely. No one's really out of business. Most of the tech outfits that can afford to market a smartphone in the first place will have enough in the tank absorb failures, although some have their doubts about Palm.

Will the iPhone ever be #1? Again, you tell me. 17% in two years, about to overtake RIM, with Nokia in a downward slide. Will you settle for a strong #2 in a year's time?

Deliberately acting unimpressed just for the sake of doing so or because you have a fetish for playing the contrarian, simply raises more questions about why you're camping an Apple fansite in the first place.

There aren't alot of MS Windows Mobile fans so I don't think many are suffering from anything. I know what must disappoint you. The Pre was never a valid contender anyways.

Palm won't even be around in 5 years and that had nothing to do with Apple.

HTC with Android is going to be right in Apples ass, RIM is still ahead of Apple and so is Nokia. You are talking about products that were already weak and avoiding the ones that were strong and are still strong. Apple has done nothing to change that fact.

I am not camping anywhere. Acutally I kind of wonder that about you seeing everything you say is always the same. You know same links, everything is a game changer and everythign everyone else makes is doomed to fail. ....
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post #93 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:20pm
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http://forums.appleinsider.com/showp...0&postcount=56

Try and learn to read everything. Deemed the iPhone was a failure before it was released. Its okay to called something that actually failed a failure.
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post #94 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:21pm
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However even you can't deny that if ATT caps iPhone data and Apple needs to go to TMobile which is the only place they can go besides ATT that doesn't exactly spell a great future. At least in the US.

We have data caps as well. Rogers' is set at 6gb. Seems just fine for us. Where does AT&T plan to set the cap?
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post #95 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:21pm
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Try and learn to read everything. Deemed the iPhone was a failure before it was released. Its okay to called something that actually failed a failure.

Next time be more clear.
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post #96 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:23pm
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Next time be more clear.

A hammer to the head wouldn't be clear enough for you.
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post #97 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:24pm
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http://forums.appleinsider.com/showp...0&postcount=56

If it hasn’t been stated before you do a great job posting links to back your arguments. I figured he’d put his foot in his mouth with that one.

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I never deem anything a failure.

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How did it set a standard for web browsing? All it showed is that as usual Apple fanatics are just that even when it comes to browsing the web all day long. The success of the iPhone is also going to be its downfall. ATT is already considering putting a cap on data plans if if Apple can only go to TMobile in the US after that the iPhone is going to make a great door stop.

Carriers aren't going to put millions into their network just because iPhone users don't have a life and do nothing but surf the web all day long. When they start putting limits on usage its going to kill the iPhone. TMobile can barely handle what that have now and Verizon wants nothing to do with this mess.

The iPhone has peaked. It didn't put anyone one out of business, its not the #1 smartphone even though people here pretend it is, and carriers are going to start putting
limits on iPhone users because its not worth the headache.

Everyone is talking about the iPhone now because Apple has done nothing major with any of its other products in years.

Macbook has had nothing major
Macbook Pro has had nothing major
Mac Pro, nothing
Apple TV, has been a failure.
Macbook Air another failure.
iPods nothing major.
IMac, nothing. Except for quadcore which everyone else has had for years now.

They are such an innovative company? What have they done in years thats been so innovative?

Looks like Extremeskater just became Extremefailure.
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post #98 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:26pm
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If it hasnt been stated before you do a great job posting. I figured hed put his foot in his mouth with that one.





Looks like Extremeskater just became Extremefailure.

I know as a mentor you have to come an defend your buddy. Yet again its okay to call something that already has failed a failure.
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post #99 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:27pm
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http://forums.appleinsider.com/showp...0&postcount=56

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10414356-71.html

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post #100 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:34pm
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When it comes to the MBP Apple will do what is always does and that is disappoint users when it comes to their hardware offerings. Remember this is the company that milked the G4 in its notebooks forever.

We're really disappointed. In fact, we're so disappointed that we just keep buying Macs.

http://www.electronista.com/articles...ctober.retail/

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._pc_sales.html

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/10/19results.html

http://www.macworld.com/article/1383.../earnings.html

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/artic...Phone_Also_Up/

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...on_survey.html

http://www.macworld.com/article/1400...isfaction.html

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10019711-37.html

That's what, #1 in customer satisfaction 6 years in a row now? Record Mac sales quarter after quarter going back to at least 2008 with notebooks in the lead?

You're either posting misinformation because you're ignorant, or you are lying outright. So which is it?
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post #101 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:35pm
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10414356-71.html

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Nice article. Very interesting to say the least. Not sure why the hullabaloo over the authors credentials though? He is basically reporting someone elses findings. Thanks for the link.
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post #102 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:36pm
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I never deem anything a failure. However even you can't deny that if ATT caps iPhone data and Apple needs to go to TMobile which is the only place they can go besides ATT that doesn't exactly spell a great future. At least in the US.

Is that really the strongest point of the argument that you've been backed into? IF ATT caps iPhone data and IF Apple NEEDS to go to TMobile....

If those are your strongest points, the big guns you bring out when cornered, you're pretty much done. As a HEAVY iPhone user (Exchange server, maps all the time, downloading podcasts over 3G most days), my current iPhone stats show 10.8 GB of data downloaded in the past 15 months. IF ATT caps iPhone users to 2GB or higher, I won't bat an eyelash and either will 99% of non-jailbroken iPhone users.

Time to give it up.
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12/12/09 at 5:38pm
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We're really disappointed. In fact, we're so disappointed that we just keep buying Macs.

http://www.electronista.com/articles...ctober.retail/

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._pc_sales.html

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/10/19results.html

http://www.macworld.com/article/1383.../earnings.html

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/01/22results.html

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/artic...Phone_Also_Up/

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...on_survey.html

http://www.macworld.com/article/1400...isfaction.html

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10019711-37.html

That's what, #1 in customer satisfaction 6 years in a row now? Record Mac sales quarter after quarter going back to at least 2008 with notebooks in the lead?

You're either posting misinformation because you're ignorant, or you are lying outright. So which is it?

When the majority of your customers are brainwashed and pretty much overlook any fault its easy to keep a high customer rating. That tells me nothing.

By the way what am I lying about. I know you get really upset easy so try to calm down and just remember we are talking about a cellphone.
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post #104 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:39pm
Google envy.

DaHarder just got banned. Let's crack open the champagne.

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post #105 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:41pm
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Is that really the strongest point of the argument that you've been backed into? IF ATT caps iPhone data and IF Apple NEEDS to go to TMobile....

If those are your strongest points, the big guns you bring out when cornered, you're pretty much done. As a HEAVY iPhone user (Exchange server, maps all the time, downloading podcasts over 3G most days), my current iPhone stats show 10.8 GB of data downloaded in the past 15 months. IF ATT caps iPhone users to 2GB or higher, I won't bat an eyelash and either will 99% of non-jailbroken iPhone users.

Time to give it up.

Sorry but its a fact that ATT has strongly suggested they will cap the iPhone. That isn't some myth I made up. Apple can only go to TMobile because Verizon will not have them and neither will Sprint. If you think ATT network is bad you need to check out the stellar coverage TMobile has...lol

"I won't bat an eyelash and either will 99% of non-jailbroken iPhone users."

Is that funny these are the same people that flip out when someone talkings about breaking EULA with OSX. Funny how selective some Apple users can be when it comes to that. I guess there are different types of stealing.
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post #106 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:43pm
For the past two years half of the Macs sold were to people buying their first Mac. Are you proposing that the only way Apple can sell computers is to brain wash people? How exactly does Apple do that?

I guarantee you any company would pay you big money if you could explain it to them.

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When the majority of your customers are brainwashed and pretty much overlook any fault its easy to keep a high customer rating. That tells me nothing.
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post #107 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:43pm
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When the majority of your customers are brainwashed and pretty much overlook any fault its easy to keep a high customer rating. That tells me nothing.

By the way what am I lying about. I know you get really upset easy so try to calm down and just remember we are talking about a cellphone.

Yup. If Apple customers are so satisfied, year after year, they MUST be brainwashed!

Seems Apple products are just that good that we're wiling to overlook some of their faults in favour of the benefits. Wow, well that IS impressive!

You post BS, I post facts, numbers, trends. The things you like to ignore.


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Blogs are fun.

Numbers are better.

http://www.iphonealley.com/current/g...e-market-share



I see no delusions here. Just amazing results for an amazing product. And the better the iPhone does, the louder the haters, the envious, "the award-winning creative directors" and the just plain frustrated will scream.
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post #108 of 336
12/12/09 at 5:49pm
You are taking what AT&T said out of its proper context.

The proper context is that AT&T's data usage has risen 5000% year over year and taxing its network. AT&T wants to discourage those use excessive bandwidth. Its likely the majority of those who use excessive bandwidth are people tethering their iPhones.

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Sorry but its a fact that ATT has strongly suggested they will cap the iPhone. That isn't some myth I made up. Apple can only go to TMobile because Verizon will not have them and neither will Sprint. If you think ATT network is bad you need to check out the stellar coverage TMobile has...lol
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12/12/09 at 5:54pm
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Google envy.

If only there were something to be envious about. Perhaps when the Google?Android?HTC? phone is actually released, we will.
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12/12/09 at 5:54pm
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There are endless people in the IT world enshrined with accolades unwarranted. Nothing new with this one either.

Nothing wreaks of pathetic more than you posting the man's own footnote of self aggrandizement.
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12/12/09 at 5:55pm
Apple sux! You need proof? Look at their miniscule global market share!

Wait, what? People are buying iPhones in not insignificant numbers? Well, it must be because those people are insane, delusional or brain-washed! Because "Apple sux" is a bedrock article of faith, which cannot change. Therefore, phenomena in the world must be rearranged to account for whatever success this horrible, loathsome company may come by.

In this way I prove Apple customers are irrational zealots.
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12/12/09 at 5:56pm
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Yup. If Apple customers are so satisfied, year after year, they MUST be brainwashed!

Seems Apple products are just that good that we're wiling to overlook some of their faults in favour of the benefits. Wow, well that IS impressive!

You post BS, I post facts, numbers, trends. The things you like to ignore.




Blogs are fun.

Numbers are better.

http://www.iphonealley.com/current/g...e-market-share



I see no delusions here. Just amazing results for an amazing product. And the better the iPhone does, the louder the haters, the envious, "the award-winning creative directors" and the just plain frustrated will scream.

Why would I scream. If I wanted an iPhone I would simply go and buy one. Am I not allowed to buy one? If that force field still up around the Apple store? Yet again to sure why I should feel like screaming for should be jealous? Your the one that seems to be losing it at the thread go on.

Again those numbers mean nothing to me.
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12/12/09 at 5:57pm
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In this way I prove Apple customers are irrational zealots.

Don't be so hard on yourself stuart smalley we still like you. Your a good person
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12/12/09 at 5:58pm
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Again those FACTS mean nothing to me.

Fixed.

They DO, however, mean something to everyone else and the entire industry. Which is really all that matters.

I suppose being relegated almost overnight to somewhere barely perceptible in the "Others" row after spending years in the top spots means nothing to MS, either.
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12/12/09 at 6:06pm
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Fixed.

They DO, however, mean something to everyone else and the entire industry. Which is really all that matters.

I suppose being relegated to somewhere barely perceptible in the "Others" column after spending years in the top spots means nothing to MS, either.

Actually, most of the industry analysts agree that Android will surpass Apple in the mobile phone arena in 2010. Do your research.

This is based on the number of mobile manufactures introducing Android on all networks worldwide.
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12/12/09 at 6:11pm
Yes this is true, but 50 phones combined outselling 1 phone isn't an extraordinary feat. No one Android phone will outsell the iPhone alone.


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Actually, most of the industry analysts agree that Android will surpass Apple in the mobile phone arena in 2010. Do your research.

This is based on the number of mobile manufactures introducing Android on all networks worldwide.
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12/12/09 at 6:14pm
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Actually, most of the industry analysts agree that Android will surpass Apple in the mobile phone arena in 2010. Do your research.

This is based on the number of mobile manufactures introducing Android on all networks worldwide.

Who's talking about Android and 2010? Wait for 2010 and THEN we'll see the numbers. Until then . . . it's all about the iPhone. LIke it has been for the last two years. So enjoy.
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12/12/09 at 6:16pm
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Yes this is true, but 50 phones combined outselling 1 phone isn't an extraordinary feat. No one Android phone will outsell the iPhone alone.

Yet that isn't the point for Google is it? They get revenue on every phone & App sold.

You can't even say it's a unique business model. It's how Microsoft became the standard for the world in the PC arena.
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12/12/09 at 6:17pm
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Yet that isn't the point for Google is it? They get revenue on every phone & App sold.

You can't even say it's a unique business model. It's how Microsoft became the standard for the world in the PC arena.

Standard? For what, exactly?

It's also how MS fumbled WinMo.
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12/12/09 at 6:23pm
It's all about the numbers. That's all that matters. And for the also-rans, right now, it's all about the iPhone and how to best copy it. Not my fault that June 2007 happened. If Android is getting some positive buzz, then great. Let's see the numbers next quarter. Let's see the mobile landscape by end of 2010. Until then, we'll have to wait.
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