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Apple CEO Steve Jobs named finalist for Time Person of the Year

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Time magazine will announce its annual Person of the Year this week, and the magazine has revealed its top seven finalists, with Apple co-founder Steve Jobs making the cut.

The magazine issued its narrowed list this week, prior to the reveal scheduled to be made Wednesday on NBC's Today Show. In addition to Jobs, the finalists are President Barack Obama, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernake, U.S. Gen. Stanley McChrystal, Olympic gold medalist Usain Bolt, and "the Chinese worker."

While Time's editors have already made their decision, readers are encouraged to chime in by voting for their selection.

Jobs was named CEO of the Decade by Fortune in November. The publication heralded Jobs for his role in turning Apple into a groundbreaking leader in the technology realm, and for making his company the most valuable in all of Silicon Valley.

Those same accomplishments were acknowledged by Time as "pros" for is being named Person of the Year. The magazine also noted that the iPhone App Store surpassed a billion downloads (2 billion as of September). Users can rank each person's importance, and as of Monday afternoon, Jobs carried a score of 49 out of 100.

The magazine also listed reasons why Jobs should not be named Person of the Year: His health problems keeping him away from the company for six months of 2009, AT&T's network instability, and the arrival of competitors like the Palm Pre and devices with Google Android.
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This will only reinforce the cult of Jobs and comfort him in his delusional belief that he is the only person who deserves any credit for what has been accomplished by Apple.

Try to convince him to leave after that or tell him that he doesn't deserve illegal stock options to the extent of over a billion dollars for mismanaging Apple in the way he did, reflecting his high school degree qualifications for the jobs of CEO and President of Apple, inc. Try that, if you can.


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This will only reinforce the cult of Jobs and comfort him in his delusional belief that he is the only person who deserves any credit for what has been accomplished by Apple.

Try to convince him to leave after that or tell him that he doesn't deserve illegal stock options to the extent of over a billion dollars for mismanaging Apple in the way he did, reflecting his high school degree qualifications for the jobs of CEO and President of Apple, inc. Try that, if you can.



Yeah, it couldn't have anything to do with him surviving a liver transplant and his company being one of the few to totally kick the recession's behind.

And where did he ever state his "delusional belief that his is the only person who deserves any credit for what has been accomplished by Apple?" What a load of BS.
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This will only reinforce the cult of Jobs and comfort him in his delusional belief that he is the only person who deserves any credit for what has been accomplished by Apple.

Try to convince him to leave after that or tell him that he doesn't deserve illegal stock options to the extent of over a billion dollars for mismanaging Apple in the way he did, reflecting his high school degree qualifications for the jobs of CEO and President of Apple, inc. Try that, if you can.



Are you an ex-girlfriend or something?

I don't think Apple shareholders have much to complain about under Jobs' tenure. And the customers seem pretty happy, too. Person of the year, though? I think Bernake probably had more influence on the world than any of the others this year.
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The magazine also listed reasons why Jobs should not be named Person of the Year: His health problems keeping him away from the company for six months of 2009, AT&T's network instability, and the arrival of competitors like the Palm Pre and devices with Google Android.


How do these take away from his achievements? Health? AT&T's network? Competitors? I don't get it?
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This will only reinforce the cult of Jobs and comfort him in his delusional belief that he is the only person who deserves any credit for what has been accomplished by Apple.

Try to convince him to leave after that or tell him that he doesn't deserve illegal stock options to the extent of over a billion dollars for mismanaging Apple in the way he did, reflecting his high school degree qualifications for the jobs of CEO and President of Apple, inc. Try that, if you can.



Speaking of "high school qualifications", your response and grammar reflects such qualifications.
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This will only reinforce the cult of Jobs and comfort him in his delusional belief that he is the only person who deserves any credit for what has been accomplished by Apple.

Try to convince him to leave after that or tell him that he doesn't deserve illegal stock options to the extent of over a billion dollars for mismanaging Apple in the way he did, reflecting his high school degree qualifications for the jobs of CEO and President of Apple, inc. Try that, if you can.


SJ took a border-line failing company and turned it into (arguably) one of the biggest players in the media industry (including Pixar / Disney). He changed the rules of the entrenched big players. He changed the way phones are perceived. He came back from near-death cancer / liver transplant being more focused than ever.

Your opinion would have had even a shred of non-trolling had you not brought up his high-school qualifications. You have a disturbingly high-standard as to what constitutes success. That being said, back up your belief by comparing your education / net-worth with other "college dropouts" like Steve Jobs and oh... Bill Gates? Show me an article of any kind listing your success and global impacts. I suspect you'll be very silent for the rest of this thread.

Even if he doesn't make the final cut, SJ earned his success.

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STEVE LOVES APPLE & APPLE LOVES STEVE.... I HOPE HE GETS THE AWARD, HE'S DONE SO MUCH FOR APPLE EVER SINCE HIS RETURN.... WHAT A GREAT ACHIEVER AND VISIONARY FOR APPLE TO HAVE

He's by far the core of the company and I hope whenever he leaves (Which I pray NEVER HAPPENS) that he's groomed the next visionary for the company, that will do things to grow apple even more. People at apple should always first think " What Would Jobs Do? " before they embark on the next great idea.

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This will only reinforce the cult of Jobs and comfort him in his delusional belief that he is the only person who deserves any credit for what has been accomplished by Apple.

Try to convince him to leave after that or tell him that he doesn't deserve illegal stock options to the extent of over a billion dollars for mismanaging Apple in the way he did, reflecting his high school degree qualifications for the jobs of CEO and President of Apple, inc. Try that, if you can.




Moderator Please??? Troll in the house ... Or like the OP said, an Ex-Girlfriend who's spewing venom and not know what he/she is talking about.
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This will only reinforce the cult of Jobs and comfort him in his delusional belief that he is the only person who deserves any credit for what has been accomplished by Apple.

99.9%, yes.

Thank God, though, that his team thinks like he does.
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My choice is between Jobs and the "Chinese worker," since the two are inextricably linked.

Both the overall state of the economy and the war in Afghanistan are stories that have stretched from last year into this one, so they are fairly tired, and Obama already got his TIME cover last year.

Apple's success in general, and in this economy specifically, is one of the great untold stories of this economy. Yes, those of us who frequent AppleInsider are overly aware of this, but the average Joe on the street really isn't, even if they have browsed an Apple store this Christmas season. And Steve Jobs' health issues give the story an even more compelling personal angle.

At the same time, the dark underside of the economy is cheap Chinese labor, from which Apple also benefits, and because this cheap labor has a serious effect on global wages, trade and the ability of the US to recover economically, it's a story worth covering as well.

It really boils down to whether TIME wants their choice of Person of the Year to be an upbeat or downbeat story.

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In addition to Jobs, the finalists are President Barack Obama, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernake, U.S. Gen. Stanley McChrystal, Olympic gold medalist Usain Bolt, and "the Chinese worker."

What an aweful short list... too many of those are polarizing. I am "left wing" but even I can see that Nancy Pelosi is just ridiculous. Obama would be far too cheesy, not to mention politically polarizing, Fed Reserve Chairman... give me a break, you might as well give it to Goldman Sachs... Usain Bolt? Maybe... seems a bit random for sporting greats.

I think Jobs is an interesting candidate, overcoming his health problems and still leading the charge at Apple... are we really this short of heros though?

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The cons are unfair. His health is not his fault, although it does keep him inactive, so I can see the logic.

But as for the other two: AT&T is a different company and the late arrival of competitors is outside of his control, and, additionally, the iPhone continues to sell well in face of that.

I'm not sure he should be man of the year, but, really, are those the only cons?
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I can’t help but not care who Time Magazine chooses.
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What the hell those choices are awful! It must be quite bad for anyone to be alongside those choices...

Then again, not many heroes appeared in this first decade...
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It's going to be Obama, put it in the bank.
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It's going to be Obama, put it in the bank.

Agreed. Anyone that can win the Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing can certainly win Time's Person of the Year award.

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I would point out that Time's Man of the Year isn't "who's your hero," It is the person who epitomizes the biggest news of the year. Frankly, using that criteria none of those finalists if a good choice. The American Worker (i.e., the economy) was the biggest story by far. With Tiger's affairs a close second apparently
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Why should anyone give a rat's kiester what Time thinks?

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I wish I could take half the year off for sickness and still get named guy of the year. He's great and all that, but he shouldn't win in this year.
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Agreed. Anyone that can win the Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing can certainly win Time's Person of the Year award.

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It's not even going to be close, SJ has no chance. I bet $5 says the cover is already designed with Obama on the front...
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Agreed. Anyone that can win the Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing can certainly win Time's Person of the Year award.

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Totally. Especially if it is by reader voting, as alluded to in the article.

The average American doesn't even know any of those names except Obama.

Anyways, Obama is the most multicultural choice, and that will always win in the media or government when it's an option.

I think 2 years ago there as a good chance for SJ to win this award. Not this year.

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Totally. Especially if it is by reader voting, as alluded to in the article.

The average American doesn't even know any of those names except Obama.

Anyways, Obama is the most multicultural choice, and that will always win in the media or government when it's an option.

I think 2 years ago there as a good chance for SJ to win this award. Not this year.

Appleinsider didn't list all the candidates.

After reading the article, I'm betting 50/50 between Obama and Iranian Protesters. Still multicultural, and pro-Isreal to boot.

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What the hell those choices are awful! It must be quite bad for anyone to be alongside those choices...

Then again, not many heroes appeared in this first decade...

It's not about heros, as someone already mentioned. It's about having a big impact on the biggest news of the year. (Which why Adolph Hitler was Man of the Year...1935, I think. Certainly not because he did anything good.)

Overall, that is a pretty weak list of finalists. Almost as if they were stacking the deck so people wouldn't second guess their pick of Obama like everyone does about the Peace Prize.
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Appleinsider didn't list all the candidates.

After reading the article, I'm betting 50/50 between Obama and Iranian Protesters. Still multicultural, and pro-Isreal to boot.

I didn't even stop to realize that wasn't the whole list. I was thinking myself that the Iranian president was a better candidate for the Man of the Year that most on that list. Not because he did anything good, but because of his impact on world events. But Time seems to shy away from selecting "bad" people as Man of the Year anymore, so selecting the Iranian Protesters would be the "good" side of their president's impact on events.
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I like good'ol Stevie and all but the award surely goes to the Chinese worker, without whom the iPhone would cost $1299USD (post subsidy), the iMac $6000 USD, and the MacBook Pro 17" $9000 USD.

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I mean, in all honestly, if they made the short list then they should win.

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It's not even going to be close, SJ has no chance. I bet $5 says the cover is already designed with Obama on the front...

I wouldn't rule him out just yet...he's got big Al in his corner. These things have become politically correct beauty contests anyway. They're purportedly about the most influential person of the past year. Which, in turn, depends on your preconceived notions of what's important in the first place. Here's one that'll make people here go ballistic: Sarah Palin. Seriously. Like her or not, the whole health debate did a 180 when she wrote two sentences on her blog no matter whether you agreed or not with what she wrote. Her book sold 2 million. She's the most hated and admired...talk about mirrors, influence and lightening rods. But...Time wouldn't give her the Time of day....okay...go ahead...fire away
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I would point out that Time's Man of the Year isn't "who's your hero," It is the person who epitomizes the biggest news of the year. Frankly, using that criteria none of those finalists if a good choice. The American Worker (i.e., the economy) was the biggest story by far. With Tiger's affairs a close second apparently

I would also point out that Time has no standard method for choosing the "Man of the Year". There aren't even required qualifications for those judging this "contest". Considering also Time's historically poor journalistic reputation, the "soup of the day" at your favorite restaurant is a more meaningful accomplishment.

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I wouldn't rule him out just yet...he's got big Al in his corner. These things have become politically correct beauty contests anyway.

Hey now, beauty contests aren't easy!

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Some people are certainly suffering from a bad case of talk radio poisoning. Time's criteria for the selection:

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Each year, since 1927, TIME editors select the person, or persons, who most influenced our worldfor better or worseover the past year.

That's it. Obama was name Person of the Year in 2008. Only one other person in the history of the Time recognition has ever won it two years in a row (Richard Nixon, in 1971 and 1972), and he shared the second one with Henry Kissinger. So Person of the Year is hardly a lock for Obama in 2009, and it's certainly not about some weirdly imagined political correctness.
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politicians should never be on this goddamn list. they just cannot be anything of the year!
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It's not about heros, as someone already mentioned. It's about having a big impact on the biggest news of the year. (Which why Adolph Hitler was Man of the Year...1935, I think. Certainly not because he did anything good.)

Overall, that is a pretty weak list of finalists. Almost as if they were stacking the deck so people wouldn't second guess their pick of Obama like everyone does about the Peace Prize.

1938. Mysteriously, I cannot find the Time article on Hitler winning Man Of The Year anywhere on the internet. If anyone knows of it, please post a link. Was it written negatively, positively, or neutral? Remember, this was before we were at war, and well before THE HOLOCAUST.

Anyways, "certainly not because he did anything good"? How about a complete turn-around of the German economy, restoration of Germany's pride and self-worth after an embarrassing defeat in WW1 with crippling reparations followed by a depression that made ours look like winning the lottery), a re-unification of German (people's) lands, an amazing Olympics in '36 (which the Germans decidedly won overall, despite the only caption you hear is how Jesse Owens won in track and Hitler didn't wave to him... which is a lie), the Autobahn, amazing advancements in science (where did Einstein come from anyways?), animal rights, the list can go on and on for the good things he did but they are always ignored due to THE HALLOCAUST! 1 small country; so great of power in so little time when they were properly led. He DID do some good things.

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1938. Mysteriously, I cannot find the Time article on Hitler winning Man Of The Year anywhere on the internet. If anyone knows of it, please post a link.

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He won't get it this year.
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1938. Mysteriously, I cannot find the Time article on Hitler winning Man Of The Year anywhere on the internet. If anyone knows of it, please post a link. Was it written negatively, positively, or neutral? Remember, this was before we were at war, and well before THE HOLOCAUST.

Anyways, "certainly not because he did anything good"? How about a complete turn-around of the German economy, restoration of Germany's pride and self-worth after an embarrassing defeat in WW1 with crippling reparations followed by a depression that made ours look like winning the lottery), a re-unification of German (people's) lands, an amazing Olympics in '36 (which the Germans decidedly won overall, despite the only caption you hear is how Jesse Owens won in track and Hitler didn't wave to him... which is a lie), the Autobahn, amazing advancements in science (where did Einstein come from anyways?), animal rights, the list can go on and on for the good things he did but they are always ignored due to THE HALLOCAUST! 1 small country; so great of power in so little time when they were properly led. He DID do some good things.

Wow. Are you a neo-nazi or do you just fail to read anyone else's posts?
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It would be strange if Jobs is man of the year when Droid is gadget of the year.
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Anyways, "certainly not because he did anything good"? How about a complete turn-around of the German economy, restoration of Germany's pride and self-worth after an embarrassing defeat in WW1 with crippling reparations followed by a depression that made ours look like winning the lottery), a re-unification of German (people's) lands, an amazing Olympics in '36 (which the Germans decidedly won overall, despite the only caption you hear is how Jesse Owens won in track and Hitler didn't wave to him... which is a lie), the Autobahn, amazing advancements in science (where did Einstein come from anyways?), animal rights, the list can go on and on for the good things he did but they are always ignored due to THE HALLOCAUST! 1 small country; so great of power in so little time when they were properly led. He DID do some good things.

1965, Star Trek Original Series, Season 2, Episode 22, - "Patteren of Force" was based on this very idea.
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I'm kinda surprised that Ballmer and his Tongue didn't make the list.

What with science finding the missing link earlier this year....
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He DID do some good things.

The only GOOD thing that came out of Nazi Germany was the resolve to never allow anything like it to ever happen again.

That said, did Time ever retract their naming of Hitler as Man of the Year? If they haven't, their credibility still suffers, and if I were any of the finalists I'd decline the nomination.
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