http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091224/..._care_overhaul
From what I can see, they have to close the gaps between the House and Senate Bills. Once this is completed they should have a final bill. Assuming this happens, what is now in the final bill? There have been so many changes that some are saying that the final bill is not even anything like the original bill that started the process. This thread is here to follow the process going through the House and to speak to what is actually in the bill that is being voted on. If the bill does finally pass the house as well, what will it mean as far as taxes, coverage and the size of government. Lets try to avoid simply saying:
Higher/Lower
Not as good/Better
Bigger/Smaller
Give answers like how much higher or lower based on what is in the bill.
What will change?
What agencies will be created or removed?
I for one want to know what is really going to happen, partisan politics aside. Factual information and discussion would be preferred.
The bill is H.R. 3590
This site seems to give the information on the bill as it stands.
http://www.opencongress.org/senate_health_care_bill
As you can see, the bill has been 99% changed from the previous bill. Went from 989 to 353,330 words and over 753 changes in the Senate. So it is important to understand what those changes are and what they mean for the country.
Quote:
In an epic struggle settled at dawn, the Democratic-controlled Senate passed health care legislation Thursday, a triumph for President Barack Obama that clears the way for compromise talks with the House on a bill to reduce the ranks of the uninsured and rein in the insurance industry.
The vote was 60-39, strictly along party lines, one day after Democrats succeeded in crushing a filibuster by Republicans eager — yet unable — to inflict a year-end political defeat on the White House.
At the White House, Obama called the vote historic, and said because of it, "we are incredibly close to making health insurance reform a reality in this country. Our challenge now is to finish the job."
The vote was 60-39, strictly along party lines, one day after Democrats succeeded in crushing a filibuster by Republicans eager — yet unable — to inflict a year-end political defeat on the White House.
At the White House, Obama called the vote historic, and said because of it, "we are incredibly close to making health insurance reform a reality in this country. Our challenge now is to finish the job."
From what I can see, they have to close the gaps between the House and Senate Bills. Once this is completed they should have a final bill. Assuming this happens, what is now in the final bill? There have been so many changes that some are saying that the final bill is not even anything like the original bill that started the process. This thread is here to follow the process going through the House and to speak to what is actually in the bill that is being voted on. If the bill does finally pass the house as well, what will it mean as far as taxes, coverage and the size of government. Lets try to avoid simply saying:
Higher/Lower
Not as good/Better
Bigger/Smaller
Give answers like how much higher or lower based on what is in the bill.
What will change?
What agencies will be created or removed?
I for one want to know what is really going to happen, partisan politics aside. Factual information and discussion would be preferred.
The bill is H.R. 3590
This site seems to give the information on the bill as it stands.
http://www.opencongress.org/senate_health_care_bill
Quote:
H.R.3590 - Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to modify the first-time homebuyers credit in the case of members of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees, and for other purposes. (
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Version............................Word Count.........Changes From Previous Version........Percent Change
Introduced in House................989.........................n/a...........................................n/a
Engrossed in House.................899......................... .3.............................................20%
Placed on Calendar Senate......970..........................8........ ......................................5%
Amendment in Senate............353,330...................753... ........................................99%
To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to modify the first-time homebuyers credit in the case of members of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees, and for other purposes. (
)Version............................Word Count.........Changes From Previous Version........Percent Change
Introduced in House................989.........................n/a...........................................n/a
Engrossed in House.................899......................... .3.............................................20%
Placed on Calendar Senate......970..........................8........ ......................................5%
Amendment in Senate............353,330...................753... ........................................99%
As you can see, the bill has been 99% changed from the previous bill. Went from 989 to 353,330 words and over 753 changes in the Senate. So it is important to understand what those changes are and what they mean for the country.
NoahJ
"It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err." - Mahatma Gandhi
"It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err." - Mahatma Gandhi
NoahJ
"It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err." - Mahatma Gandhi
"It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err." - Mahatma Gandhi
I simply picked a line from memory that matched what he posted. What part was he quoting? I have not had computer access for about a week and not been able to do any serious browsing.
