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post #41 of 178
12/25/09 at 8:23pm
It seems that the only thing we can assume with any confidence is that it wont be called Mac <something> as it would seem to imply that is has a full copy of Mac OS X on it, which seems highly unlikely. If it starts with i I think we can assume that Apple wants us to see it as an accessory device to a PC, synced via iTunes. For these reasons I think the Apple Slate or Apple Tablet is not only a good name but defines the designation nicely by separating from the pocketable devices and their PC line.


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I would guess that if it's Slate, it would be referred to as Apple Slate, or see below:

I think this is one of the best names suggested. I would have suggested "Apple Slate", but the TV device gives yours some amount of precedence.

I like the idea of Apple Slate which clearly sets it apart from both categories and into some middle ground that hasnt ben chartered much.

If its called Apple Slate (or even iPod Slate) itll likely have iSlate as its sobriquet, hence Apples purchase of the site. Some because they dont better and others because itll easier to type/say. Then again, it could just be to keep others from using it or theyve changed their mind in the 3 years since they bought it.


PS: To the posters arent getting slate. Slate was also used for writing on, more commonly referred to as a chalk board. Regardless of how well the definition fits you just have to look at the iPod to see a widely successful device with a less attributable name than iSlate.
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post #42 of 178
12/25/09 at 8:41pm
Remember this? Executive Editor of the NY Times referring to the "Apple Slate"

http://gawker.com/5389636/bill-kelle...blet-impending

"I'm hoping we can get the newsroom more actively involved in the challenge of delivering our best journalism in the form of Times Reader, iPhone apps, WAP, or the impending Apple slate..."- Bill Keller
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post #43 of 178
12/25/09 at 9:14pm
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Remember this? Executive Editor of the NY Times referring to the "Apple Slate"

http://gawker.com/5389636/bill-kelle...blet-impending

"I'm hoping we can get the newsroom more actively involved in the challenge of delivering our best journalism in the form of Times Reader, iPhone apps, WAP, or the impending Apple slate..."- Bill Keller

"Slate" is a very generic term for a type of tablet (as opposed to a "convertible" tablet). You'll note the lower-case "s" in that quote.
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post #44 of 178
12/25/09 at 9:18pm
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Apple's ownership of the domain was displayed for several weeks in late 2007 before being quickly changed back to MarkMonitor.

If Apple had it in their name for several weeks, how was it determined that they quickly handed it over to MarkMonitor? Sensationalizing a bit, are we?
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post #45 of 178
12/25/09 at 9:38pm
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"Slate" is a very generic term for a type of tablet (as opposed to a "convertible" tablet). You'll note the lower-case "s" in that quote.


What do you make of this? - http://www.macrumors.com/2009/12/25/...a-magic-slate/
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post #46 of 178
12/25/09 at 9:43pm
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What do you make of this? - http://www.macrumors.com/2009/12/25/...a-magic-slate/

As I said, Apple owns a lot of domains. That could very well indicate the name of a future product, or it could mean nothing. There is no way for us to be sure before an announcement is made.
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post #47 of 178
12/25/09 at 10:53pm
It doesn't even matter if Apple owns the name or not. Remember, they didn't own the name iPhone when they announced it.
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post #48 of 178
12/25/09 at 10:58pm
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As I said, Apple owns a lot of domains. That could very well indicate the name of a future product, or it could mean nothing. There is no way for us to be sure before an announcement is made.

From that linked article though, Apple also owns the trademark "iSlate" as well as "Magic Slate," and perhaps set up a dummy corporation in 2006 just to do so. If true, that shows more commitment to the name than just buying a domain.

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post #49 of 178
12/25/09 at 11:02pm
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It doesn't even matter if Apple owns the name or not. Remember, they didn't own the name iPhone when they announced it.

I dont recall that, but I do recall that they used an iTV placeholder for the yet unnamed AppleTV back in late 2006, about 6 months before it launched. It was known then that iTV would not work do the British television network using that name.

Perhaps the best name choice isnt just what sounds good but what is also available across every country. I figure Apple hates having to rename all the AirPort products in Japan to AirMac due to I-O DATAs ownership.
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post #50 of 178
12/26/09 at 1:53am
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Really don't like the name. I think it really is a very......Microsoft......Google.....bleh, sort of name. Kind of like a technical person trying fruitlessly to make themselves relevant to the public. I'm not sure how Steve feels about reusing a product name, but iBook definitely seems like the most probable choice. Hmph, I guess we'll see on January 26. (I hope)

I have to agree here, since I also think it's going to be iBook. Apple owns the trademark already, no hassle with a third party over it... and it will define a new gadget category, called "smart books".

I mentioned in a post yesterday, that I think the simple, one-trick-pony e-reader (e-book) category will essentially be dead next year, or be spoken about similar as simple cell phones are compared to smart phones (e-readers and netbooks vs. smart-books).

The new iBook will being the mother of all smart books, and the one to try and kill after Jan 26, 2010.

PS. iSlate just doesn't roll off the tongue right, and people with speech deficiencies, and/or after a few beers, will HATE the name! Could also be mistaken in a time of emergency, like when the rescue crew mistakes, "Please iSlate" as 'Please, isolate", as Soli stated to be a "good" reason for the rather hideous name.

PSS. I'm going to hedge my bet with "iPad" as my second guess... only to differentiate form Macbooks, notebooks, etc... and tie the device closer to the iPod way of doing things with iTunes and the AppStore. Regardless of some people thinking it sounds like a feminine hygiene product, it hasn't stopped anyone from yelling, "Go get my pad and a pencil, quick!". THAT could have a whole new meaning com Jan.... minus the pencil of course
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post #51 of 178
12/26/09 at 2:07am
I'm sure we had a whole thread of suggestions for the slated (!) Apple Tablet.

Let me see if I can find it...
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post #52 of 178
12/26/09 at 2:16am
There's a few good ideas, and some silly ones here...

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=101291
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post #53 of 178
12/26/09 at 3:03am
Let it be the "Newton". It would be a great statement by Apple.
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post #54 of 178
12/26/09 at 3:06am
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I have to agree here, since I also think it's going to be iBook. Apple owns the trademark already, no hassle with a third party over it... and it will define a new gadget category, called "smart books".

I mentioned in a post yesterday, that I think the simple, one-trick-pony e-reader (e-book) category will essentially be dead next year, or be spoken about similar as simple cell phones are compared to smart phones (e-readers and netbooks vs. smart-books).

The new iBook will being the mother of all smart books, and the one to try and kill after Jan 26, 2010.

iBook would also be great

It'd be more relevant than Newton as the new iBook is set to redefine the industry of publishing. That is books, magazines end ebooks.

Actually. The iBook brand would be perfect as it is likely going to be marketed between the iPod/iPhone touch and the Macbook.

iSlate is a silly name that needs to be slated
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post #55 of 178
12/26/09 at 3:27am
There's absolutely no way it will be iBook. This could lead to legal problems and lots of confusion. Can you imagine a customer to a tech, "I need help with my iBook" and the tech assumes the customer means the new tablet, but the customer actually has an iBook G4? This is a disaster waiting to happen, and I think anyone who thinks "iBook" is a possibility for the new tablet is an idiot.

I also don't think it's going to be "iPad". Think of all the poor souls in Boston.

I think it's going to be the Apple Slate. It just sounds way better than iSlate. I don't think there will be legal problems with Slate.com because it's a totally different product, online magazine vs. hardware. Apple would reach an agreement with Slate.com if necessary.
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post #56 of 178
12/26/09 at 4:02am
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This is exactly why I don't like this name. It suggests something primitive.



Have you any idea of the derivation of the term 'tablet'?

Among other things, the word is used to refer to the use of clay tablets by the Mesopotamian's, so they are a 6,000 year old technology.



The use of sheets of slate is relatively cutting edge technology, by comparison, as it dates to the 18th century so is only about 250 years old.

Slate is far more technologically advanced as well as it is RAM. Clay tablets are only ROM, although they are unsurpassed for archival longevity.

I am tired of waiting for Apple's iSlate, so I made my own:



It has a killer UI, the display is easily legible in direct sunlight, and the device has been extensively field tested to ensure there are no nasty defects for the user to discover - unlike products made by Apple. The CPU it uses is the product of over 3.5 million years of improvement via natural selection and is currently the most powerful processor on the planet. It boots instantaneously, is low cost, has a 5 star energy rating and will still be functioning long after everything made by Apple, with the same name, is landfill.

Frankly, I think I am on to a winner. It can't fail.
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post #57 of 178
12/26/09 at 4:06am
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I also don't think it's going to be "iPad". Think of all the poor souls in Boston.


iPad - for that inconvenient time of the month.

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post #58 of 178
12/26/09 at 4:27am
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Sweet.



I would guess that if it's Slate, it would be referred to as Apple Slate, or see below:



I think this is one of the best names suggested. I would have suggested "Apple Slate", but the TV device gives yours some amount of precedence.

I think it's unfortunate that it's harder to enforce trademarks on a name unless it's a bastardized word, that has led to lots of product and service names that are starting to get irritating, I also don't like camel case.

its either itab
itablet
or
islate
all of these sound fine
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post #59 of 178
12/26/09 at 4:55am
- iMfinallyhere
- iwork
- iPlay
- iamtherefore
- iamnothingwhatoutyou
- iamnotjustanothertablet
- iamwondurbar
- iamnotani
- idontknowwhattheyllcallit
- ijotter
- ireach
- itsnotgoingtostartwithi

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post #60 of 178
12/26/09 at 5:03am
Here are my prefered names...

iTab
iRock
iGem
iPal
iOmni (as in, does everything!)
iUni
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post #61 of 178
12/26/09 at 5:41am
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Let it be the "Newton". It would be a great statement by Apple.

Statement of what? Unfortunately, it means nothing at all to the iPod generation. Will more likely provoke a reaction of 'huh'?
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post #62 of 178
12/26/09 at 6:11am
Thename means nothing if the device sucks- look at the AppleTV originally called the iTV.
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post #63 of 178
12/26/09 at 6:26am
Naming products isn't all that easy, you have to appeal to your market and at the same time have something trademarkable. Just look at all the problems MS has had with the word Windows.

I don't personally like the name Slate or iSlate for that matter, but I think Apple could get it to appeal to the marketplace. Like others I'd like to see them revive Newton in some manner. I never owned the original but the name conjures up images of intelligence and enlightenment. Slate doesn't really do that and leaves one with a primitive taste in ones mouth.

As to the name of the device coming next year I simply don't know. I will point out though that the registration is very old now. It could have been a totally different product that never made it out of the labs. Of course it CoulD be the tablet but we won't know until next year. More interesting to me at this moment is how many other companies this Regina Porter is involved in. Because there are a number of naming possibilities and potential future products.

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post #64 of 178
12/26/09 at 6:33am
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I am tired of waiting for Apple's iSlate, so I made my own:



It has a killer UI, the display is easily legible in direct sunlight, and the device has been extensively field tested to ensure there are no nasty defects for the user to discover - unlike products made by Apple. The CPU it uses is the product of over 3.5 million years of improvement via natural selection and is currently the most powerful processor on the planet. It boots instantaneously, is low cost, has a 5 star energy rating and will still be functioning long after everything made by Apple, with the same name, is landfill.

Frankly, I think I am on to a winner. It can't fail.

Wow, Chalko-touch!

This iSlate be in the shape of iSuperman badge

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post #65 of 178
12/26/09 at 6:35am
The tablet will be called 'Mac touch' and that's the end of it.

So stick your iSlate in your iEye and watch your iSight go iByeBye.

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post #66 of 178
12/26/09 at 6:39am
Does the nomenclature really make a difference to anyone? As long as a product does what I need it to do at a price I find reasonable I don’t care if they call it a TeckStudStone.
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post #67 of 178
12/26/09 at 6:45am
So what if they don't own the url? They don't own a lot of the domain names named after some of their most important products, and they own domain names of non-products. I really think it will be named * iBook Touch *
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post #68 of 178
12/26/09 at 6:56am
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Does the nomenclature really make a difference to anyone? As long as a product does what I need it to do at a price I find reasonable I don’t care if they call it a TeckStudStone or ExtremeSkaterPad.

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like stalin did
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well was never ....
or did not ever exist .. or did he exist and ..and then did not exist ,

do you miss him ?? HE was your arch rival you know . you two would go after each other across the whole web ! you did tty to make up with him I remember . and he spurned you . i think he was spurning himself .

oh boy and now you evoke his past ghost .. damn i also miss him but the forum except for some baby trolls is much nicer place to post .

yes blue slate was and is used on school chalkboards and city side walks

hence the term ""a clean slate ""


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post #69 of 178
12/26/09 at 6:59am
Why do some of you (like, two of you) think "iBook" makes any sense for a gadget that does not have two sides or folds closed?

This is a completely new form factor for Apple. It should have a completely new name.

I'm not crazy about "iSlate" or "Slate" or "Magic Slate," but at least it makes a bit of sense. And it's no worse than "iPod." I mean, I still don't know what the hell a pod is.
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post #70 of 178
12/26/09 at 7:02am
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Statement of what? Unfortunately, it means nothing at all to the iPod generation. Will more likely provoke a reaction of 'huh'?

newton would be perfect
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12/26/09 at 7:13am
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i mean dude they completely wiped TS from this board
like stalin did
every post he ever made is ..
well was never ....
or did not ever exist .. or did he exist and ..and then did not exist

Typically when a poster is removed like that his posts are still there but only the admins can see them. Its a global ignore list in vBulletin called Tachy Goes To Coventry that is slightly different from the personal ignore list since you cant even see the placeholder for the post. You know if it has been invoked when you see an extra page for posts when there arent enough posts shown to create that page.

This does not mean that he still cant post under his name, a poster sent to Coventry isnt necessarily banned from using his account, but he may wonder why he isnt getting responses and if checks the page from an account not logged in with his name hell notice that his posts dont show up. I think his user name also states hes in Coventry if he checks his profile status.

Im not sure if there is a way to delete a user in vBeulletin and remove all their posts from the server.
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post #72 of 178
12/26/09 at 7:44am
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The tablet will be called 'Mac touch' and that's the end of it.

So stick your iSlate in your iEye and watch your iSight go iByeBye.

There are several reasons it won't be "Mac Touch", despite your aspirations.

First of all, it won't be a Mac. It will run a modified version of the iPhone OS, which will be called "OS X" by Apple, but will be far more akin to the iPhone OS. It will run iPhone apps natively.

If it doesn't run the same OS X that Macs run, it won't be "Mac" anything.

Secondly, it won't end in "Touch" because that will cause too much confusion with the iPod Touch (which the majority of people stupidly call the iTouch). I see a small possibility of Touch-something, like "Touch Pro" or "TouchBook".

That said, I also think it iNomenclature is too old to keep pushing. It's run it's course, or it should have. I can't believe Steve thinks different(ly) about that. That's why I don't like "iSlate" and I would prefer the "Apple Slate".

"Newton" would not be a bad choice, as it does draw on the idea of "the idea" as well as something sophisticated and scientific. And unlike iBook, the old Newton is so far dead that it's unlikely anyone will be confusing the new and old products.

Or...

It could be something totally unexpected, like iPod was. Something that won't have as much chance of being a trademark issue. Like the Apple Whiteboard or the Apple Ideaboard or something equally as unappealing to some as iPod was to many at the time of its launch.
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12/26/09 at 7:49am
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Typically when a poster is removed like that his posts are still there but only the admins can see them. Its a global ignore list in vBulletin called Tachy Goes To Coventry that is slightly different from the personal ignore list since you cant even see the placeholder for the post. You know if it has been invoked when you see an extra page for posts when there arent enough posts shown to create that page.

This does not mean that he still cant post under his name, a poster sent to Coventry isnt necessarily banned from using his account, but he may wonder why he isnt getting responses and if checks the page from an account not logged in with his name hell notice that his posts dont show up. I think his user name also states hes in Coventry if he checks his profile status.

Im not sure if there is a way to delete a user in vBeulletin and remove all their posts from the server.

I'm certain teckstud didn't receive a permanent ban for his infringements. It's more likely that he decided to remove the history of his account from the board, and asked the admins to take care of it. He may be here in another form, or he may return to lurk silently. But for whatever reason, he no longer wants it to be known that he's here.
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12/26/09 at 7:56am
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Records show that Apple has owned the iSlate.com domain name since 2007, indicating a possible name for the company's much-rumored tablet device.

I can't recall an Apple product that did not get knocked for its name, particularly in the last 10 years.

And in the end, it wasn't the name that was 'stupid', it was the people that said so.

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12/26/09 at 7:57am
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I'm certain teckstud didn't receive a permanent ban for his infringements. It's more likely that he decided to remove the history of his account from the board, and asked the admins to take care of it. He may be here in another form, or he may return to lurk silently. But for whatever reason, he no longer wants it to be known that he's here.

If he is hear he is keeping quiet. The last time he used a fake name his posting style was obvious immediately despite his attempts at subterfuge. All I know is that its been a lot more fun on these forums since hes been away.
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12/26/09 at 8:02am
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I can't recall an Apple product that did not get knocked for its name, particularly in the last 10 years.

And in the end, it wasn't the name that was 'stupid', it was the people that said so.
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12/26/09 at 8:23am
iSlate...Yaba Daba DOOO!!
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12/26/09 at 8:37am
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iSlate...Yaba Daba DOOO!!

FLINTSTOOOOOOOONE!!!! Why are you on AI!!! .....




Doesn't Apple know the Slate name and moniker dates back to the pre-historic era!?!

iSee another patent lawsuit coming


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All jokes aside, iHeard of the name MAGIC SLATE too (Could tie into Magic Mouse) but hey what do iKnow .... Also people thought iPod was a crazy name..... Finally, I agree with Solipsism, if it has functionality and purpose then the name falls on the back burner.
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post #79 of 178
12/26/09 at 8:39am
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Sounds plausible.

The device may need a game changing name to separate it from other tablets that are soon to appear. Since someone owns, and has heavily protected, the ISLATE name since 2006 with the various worldwide trademark offices and domain registries, it could likely be Apple.

If the courier appears to be real, then that looks like a game changer as many execs and students will flock to it. If that be the case, especially at the enterprise level, (exchane), I wonder what the islate will appeal to? iPhone game type of apps, sycnh with iLife or iCal.

Should be an intersting few months, especially if the courier is made and owned by Microsoft.

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12/26/09 at 8:43am
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All I know is that its been a lot more fun on these forums since hes been away.

I agree. The only thing that would make it better is if people would stop talking about him or making fun of him, too.
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