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For the last quarter, iPhone had a 17% share of the smartphone market. That's the market that counts. That's the market that Balmer was talking about.

Total smartphones this year... about 160 million. That's no longer a niche.

So 17% of the smart phone market which is 14% of the mobile market is around 2-3% of the total market. That's a narrow demographic niche product.

Like I said though, I see the iPhone as a totally different product to the slate being described by most people here. The iPhone certainly has the potential to be main stream given a cheaper price tag.

When Balmer made that comment he wasn't talking about the smartphone market. He was talking about the entire mobile phone market. He even specifically mentions the total mobile sales.

So what he said is (so far) totally true. The iPhone doesn't have any kind of "significant" market share. I quote "significant" because although he was talking about sales numbers one could argue that a share of the profit is more important to a business than a share of the sales.

Of course, I've got no idea what his point was - Balmer on his best day is totally insane. As Carniphage mentioned above Apple are making a massive profit off that small market segment whilst Microsoft is making nothing (I'd suggest Windows Mobile may even be losing money).

So for him to suggest he'd rather have a large market share rather than a small one like Apple, whilst he has virtually none, doesn't make any sense at all.

In any case I still see the iPhone\\iPod market as being different to the slate market. One is main stream (or potentially so) and the other will always have a limited demographic.

It's not like I see that as being a bad thing. Targeting a product to a specific audience means it can be designed to be more ideally suited to their needs. A Ferrari is a narrow demographic niche product.
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So 17% of the smart phone market which is 14% of the mobile market is around 2-3% of the total market. That's a narrow demographic niche product.

Like I said though, I see the iPhone as a totally different product to the slate being described by most people here. The iPhone certainly has the potential to be main stream given a cheaper price tag...

...So what he said is (so far) totally true. The iPhone doesn't have any kind of "significant" market share. I quote "significant" because although he was talking about sales numbers one could argue that a share of the profit is more important to a business than a share of the sales...

...In any case I still see the iPhone\\iPod market as being different to the slate market. One is main stream (or potentially so) and the other will always have a limited demographic.

It's not like I see that as being a bad thing. Targeting a product to a specific audience means it can be designed to be more ideally suited to their needs. A Ferrari is a narrow demographic niche product.

I generally agree with you, it's how Apple rolls. They are experiencing growth, and good sales and profits of their products, organised around a strong vision. If Apple grows and diversifies any faster than it is doing, I'd be concerned as a user or if I was a shareholder.

I was just plugging in my Logitech wired mouse and Microsoft wireless keyboard with a simple USB hub into my PC, and Windows 7 kept popping up with "Installing driver" then "Not found" then if I plugged the hub into a different USB port on my PC both won't respond.

Apple is in a totally different "zone", shall we say.

The Apple Tablet is not going to be as huge as the iPhone simply because of the number of people that use mobile phones (ie., almost everyone).

But it will be a driver of brand mindshare, sexiness, halo effect, whatever.

I think about 10-20 million units a year, and rounds out the Apple offerings for 2010.
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So 17% of the smart phone market which is 14% of the mobile market is around 2-3% of the total market. That's a narrow demographic niche product.

Hello? Is this thing on?
I repeat.

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Apple is now the most profitable cellphone manufacturer in the world. Passing Nokia this year.

That is the kind of narrow demographic niche market that all businesses want to be in.

C.
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Hello? Is this thing on?
I repeat.
That is the kind of narrow demographic niche market that all businesses want to be in.
C.


Hello? Is this thing on?

I repeat.

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Originally Posted by Firefly7475 View Post

...although he was talking about sales numbers one could argue that a share of the profit is more important to a business than a share of the sales.

I've never said being in a narrow demographic niche market is bad thing.

http://www.chillpill.com/takeoneortwo.php

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