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Officials at KT, the exclusive provider of the iPhone in South Korea, have allegedly said Apple could debut a new iPhone with an OLED screen, video chat and a removable battery as soon as April.

The Korea Times claimed Tuesday that sources at KT said the new phone would have an organic light-emitting diode (OLED) screen, would feature video chat functionality, and a removable battery is "highly likely." The report also said the new iPhone would include dual-core processors, more powerful graphics capabilities, and a superior camera.

Talks over initial sales have reportedly been under way at KT, which plans to sell the fourth-generation device to corporate clients in April as a "litmus test." Local distributors would allegedly receive the new device in June, which would represent the typical timeframe for an iPhone launch.

The Times quoted a "high ranking KT executive" as saying that Apple and the wireless provider have reached "a broad consensus to introduce the advanced models as early as possible."

If true, multi-core support for the new iPhone would likely come in the form of the new Cortex-A9 processor design from ARM. The new processors are capable of breaking the 2GHz barrier.

Last week, AppleInsider reported that Apple has moved to purchase significant quantities of LED camera flash components. These could be used to improve both picture and quality in low-light situations.

Last year, rumors said Apple was testing RFID swipe support in new iPhone prototypes. Radio-Frequency Identification is a technology that allows a device to sense embedded chips in nearby objects without making direct contact or without visible light. It could allow users to use their phone as a credit card to swipe payments, or to swipe and obtain information from a kiosk.

Recent reports have suggested Apple has supplied a new iPhone 4.0 beta SDK. It is said the developers kit includes a "simulator" that aims to make it easy to adapt applications to different screen resolutions.

A new version of the iPhone could arrive in 2010 to support CDMA networks like Verizon in the U.S. Rumors over the last few months have said Apple has struck a deal to purchase chips from Qualcomm to support CDMA/EVDO carriers. However, there have also been allegations of disagreements between Apple and Verizon over potential handset pricing.

The iPhone debuted in South Korea at the end of November with a successful launch. Apple sold 60,000 iPhones in the handset's debut, representing 15 percent of the 400,000 total smartphones sold in the country in the third quarter of 2009.
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I doubt there will be a removable battery, Apple has gone out of it's way to eliminate removable batteries from it's products and has seen increased battery life as a result.
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Removable battery moves this to the 'Likely BS' bin.
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The "removeable battery" part makes the source uncredible. Everything else sounds pretty spot on.
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Is there an echo in here?
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Officials at KT, the exclusive provider of the iPhone in South Korea, have allegedly said Apple could debut a new iPhone with an OLED screen, video chat and a removable battery as soon as April ...

They're right. This *could* happen.

I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for it though.
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Throwing specs at the rumour sites to see what will stick. Some of them may well be true just by chance, but I don't believe any of it is grounded in genuine knowledge.

Apple do a litmus test? Have they ever?

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So the new iSlate is actually a 10" iPhone with multi-gesture input, a new closed UI tied to the App Store, a removable battery and designed to replace the MacBook and all their laptops eventually.


Perhaps Apple realized that having a flood of people coming in to change their non-user-serviceable battery wasn't a very good business decision.

One of the cells of my old MacBook Pro battery just swelled out, good thing I breaking in the newer one when it happened. So I'm down to one battery and zero downtime.

However if I had the non-user-serviceable battery, my entire computer would have to go off to LALA LAND and risk being damaged, my private files snooped, my huge music collection copied and even a rootkit installed by people unknown.

Apple should have the storage and battery user-replaceable in all their devices. And of course do something about the awful glare.
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The "removeable battery" part makes the source uncredible.

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I doubt there will be a removable battery, Apple has gone out of it's way to eliminate removable batteries from it's products and has seen increased battery life as a result.

I also think this is highly unlikely.
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This new iPhone better have matte display option or some heads gonna roll.
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I stopped reading when I saw "removable battery".
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Then tablet thing (if any) is gonna be out in January. Or it's not gonna be out at all. No way it can be lurking inside Apple until March.
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Does the iPhone need a dual core 2GHz processor? Would the power use increase significantly?

OLED - This things are expensive. They do not look much better than comparable LCD. I am not sure about battery consumption. So what is the reason to use such expensive display?
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I stopped reading when I saw "removable battery".

My thoughts exactly.
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However if I had the non-user-serviceable battery, my entire computer would have to go off to LALA LAND and risk being damaged, my private files snooped, my huge music collection copied and even a rootkit installed by people unknown.

...and a side effect of the new case design is that the HD is much more difficult to remove (at least in the MBP) than it was before. My late 2008 MBP wouldn't have this issue because (a) the battery is removable and (b) it takes all of 30 seconds to swap out the hard drive and keep my data safe and sound when I bring it in for repair!
post #17 of 153
April? That sounds like June to me.

Removable battery? Hopefully they use the wiggle space to add more battery!

OLED sounds great. It doesn't need backlighting.

One has to applaud all the competition out there, the empire is about to swipe back

Yay to mobile iChat! The new camera has got to be great as it doesn't make sense to chat to an obscured person.
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I stopped reading when I saw "removable battery".


You and about a dozen others.

Apple is creating a huge amount of problems for itself by locking the battery down.

They might have realized these problems in certain devices, especially those used in schools like the iSlate is proposed to replace the MacBook.
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Perhaps Apple realized that having a flood of people coming in to change their non-user-serviceable battery wasn't a very good business decision.

your typical usage onto millions of others that do not fit your usage category. It clearly is not a bad business decision as the bulk of the batteries that do need replacing will occur well after Apple is footing the bill. I also don't think the problem is all that widespread. It affect some power users but for the most part people manage fine with the juice they have.
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Removable battery?! Does Steve know about this? LOL
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And if any iPhone carries RFID anything, It will be the first version that neither myself, my family, or anyone in my company even considers purchasing.

Bad enough to be trackable by GPS. RFID is absolutely, ridiculously, unsafe and out of line.
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This new iPhone better have matte display option or some heads gonna roll.

You realize you can buy screen protectors for the iPhone that are matte, right? They cost about $5 and are applied to the front face and work perfectly. If the screen itself was matte it would take away the option from the user.
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...and a side effect of the new case design is that the HD is much more difficult to remove (at least in the MBP) than it was before. My late 2008 MBP wouldn't have this issue because (a) the battery is removable and (b) it takes all of 30 seconds to swap out the hard drive and keep my data safe and sound when I bring it in for repair!

I hear you, I got the 2006 MBP and took it in once for a hard drive replacement to up it to 7,200 RPM and increase the storage. The Reseller quoted me $600 and wouldn't install the higher quality Hitachi drive I wanted, said they would only do a 5,200 RPM Seagate, so I told them to shove it and learned how to do it myself.

At least I can change the battery, until Apple stops selling them.
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You and about a dozen others.

Apple is creating a huge amount of problems for itself by locking the battery down.

They might have realized these problems in certain devices, especially those used in schools like the iSlate is proposed to replace the MacBook.

Are you kidding? In a school situation, you lock EVERYTHING down!
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huh, don't need everyone calling bs just because the battery. maybe the oled screen is much thinner or other components are smaller and they just have a lot of extra space for something like a removable battery compartment? since the size of the unit overall has to be roughly the same size anyway to be useable
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Are you kidding? In a school situation, you lock EVERYTHING down!


Nah, white MacBooks have removable batteries already and you can tell most kids not to do certain things if they discover how to take it out.

After they see what it does, they usually don't mess with it after that. They are easily distracted.

But taking the whole computer in if the battery dies? Not practical.
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These salacious little tidbits, though seemingly minor, are more believable than the over-the-top rumors we're used to reading.

RFID swipe support could be a game changer, although such technology is not available in mass quantity at the retailer level. Maybe Apple could subsidize devices for all retailers. At the very least, they'd have their beta device in their new stores.
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This new iPhone better have matte display option or some heads gonna roll.

Heck yeah, and it better have a blu-ray drive as standard too!
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You realize you can buy screen protectors for the iPhone that are matte, right? They cost about $5 and are applied to the front face and work perfectly. If the screen itself was matte it would take away the option from the user.

The touchscreen works behind the matte film?

got a link?

Also it could be hard to clean and wear out, peal and whatnot.


It would be better if Apple used a better form of glass with anti-glare/reflection properties built into the glass itself.

Of course the screens themselves are now glossy, so I don't know how that would work, but something has to be done.

10" with glare and reflections is going to suck @ss. Sure make it hard to read.
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post #30 of 153
Most of what is mentioned in this latest rumor is easy speculation at best, as those features seem to be the next logical steps in the iPhone's evolution. The technology is already known to exist, so I say 'meh', also I agree with my fellow insiders in calling the removable battery BS. Apple has removed batteries from all their laptop offerings praising the move as saving space for more battery, I don't see that changing anytime soon
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your typical usage onto millions of others that do not fit your usage category. It clearly is not a bad business decision as the bulk of the batteries that do need replacing will occur well after Apple is footing the bill. I also don't think the problem is all that widespread. It affect some power users but for the most part people manage fine with the juice they have.


If the design size of the 10" iSlate can handle a battery that only lasts 4 or 5 hours, it certainly would be removable to extend it's usage.

Just because the MacBook Pro has a huge case for a huge battery and can last 8 or so hours, doesn't mean it will scale well into a device that's only 10".

Look at the iPhone, the battery needs recharging all the time; in the car, at work, at home etc.

Perhaps that won't in a device that is going to replace the computer.
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Am sure Apple won't be so silly to do a Samsung (Ultra Touch), Nokia (5530) and Google (Nexus 1) and use a display that is impossible to read in daylight.

Wouldn't be incredible if Apple launch a device with a rollup display - so it's an iPhone and 'Tablet' in one? (Issue is, how do you stiffen a rollup display when you want to touch/draw on it?)
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I highly doubt Apple would use a removable battery for several reasons.
First, Apple loves to use new materials. They redefined what you could do with plastics with their color iMacs, made innovations in manufacturing aluminum, and even created a new rubber like material for the non slip grip on the bottom of the new iMacs. Batteries doors almost always create design limitations. Just look at the aluminum macbook with a battery door. They went out of their way to design that door. Second, apple loves internal batteries because they allow for longer battery usage. Apple, as we all know, is a stickler when it comes to battery life. New features like an led flash or multitasking would likely suck up battery. Apple, if anything, should be trying to increase battery life. Third, I don't see much use in a removable battery. I have never wanted to swap a battery with my phone, or even my laptop for that matter. I don't really see the point; it's not like tons of people go and buy extra batteries for their phones anyway. I only think this would be a reality if Apple released a Pixi like competitor in April. I doubt Apple would break tradition and announce a new iPhone 3gs HD early. This probably means that a phone will be announced at the developers conference if they announce multiple screen resolutions. This will probably be done in order to keep their stocks under control. Imagine if apple had announced months ago the created software for a tablet but said that they had no intentions on creating a tablet device. Anyway, that is my opinion on the current situation.
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post #35 of 153
I can't believe nobody mentioned this...but a removable battery? No way...that makes this source uncredible. :-)
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The part that makes this rumor credible is the removable battery.
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OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you kidding me!!!!!!!!????????????

You're actually getting info about a future iPhone from SOUTH KOREA!!!!!????????

We don't even have the iTunes Store for Pete's sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's not even ONE official Apple Retail Store here either!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only Authorized Retailers!!!!!!!!!

My head just burst into bits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

POOOOOOOOOOOOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I agree Apple is going away from removable battery.

But the only product that it actually makes sense to have a removable battery is the iPhone, so its possible.

OLED? Will it be as poor as the Zune?
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If the design size of the 10" iSlate can handle a battery that only lasts 4 or 5 hours, it certainly would be removable to extend it's usage.

Just because the MacBook Pro has a huge case for a huge battery and can last 8 or so hours, doesn't mean it will scale well into a device that's only 10".

Look at the iPhone, the battery needs recharging all the time; in the car, at work, at home etc.

Perhaps that won't in a device that is going to replace the computer.

You can choose to ignore the power savings in switching from core 2 duos to a fanless Arm architecture if you wish....

I charge my iPhone every other day, that is hardly all the time (but still bad for a phone). The exception would be playing games on it for extended periods of time, something I rarely do.

An external battery serves the same purpose as a second battery for those who need it anyway. Swappable batteries are nice for some but not used by the majority of people.
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Not to mention that folks won't be upgrade-eligible in April...
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