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Logic Pro, MainStage go 64-bit; Warner Music loses $11M on Lala

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Apple's professional audio applications were updated to add 64-bit support Tuesday, Warner Music came up $11 million short in its investment in Lala, a supposed sighting of iPhone OS 4.2 is revealed, and a former Apple executive has joined a close partner of competitor Palm.

Logic Pro, MainStage gain 64-bit mode

Apple on Tuesday issued updates for Logic Pro and MainStage, allowing the audio applications to run in 64-bit mode. This allows users to use more memory with the application.

Previously, when running in 32-bit mode, the applications were restricted to access on 4GB of memory. Now, Apple said, there is essentially no practical limit to addressable memory.

"As a result, all the installed memory that is not needed by the OS is available for use by Logic Pro or MainStage, which can be meaningful if your Mac has more than 4GB of memory installed," an Apple FAQ reads. "This larger amount of memory allows you to run far more instances of memory intensive plug-ins, such as sample-based software instruments."

The company noted that there is no difference in sound quality between running the applications in 32-bit or 64-bit modes. Prior versions of the software used 64-bit processing resolutions for plug-ins when it was decided there was an audible benefit.

Users can determine whether the software is running in 32-bit or 64-bit mode by choosing About Logic Pro or About MainStage. The updates can be downloaded through Software Update.

Apple began a significant 64-bit push with Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, when the operating system's GUI and kernel were done in 64-bit. For more on the role of 64-bit in the Mac platform, see AppleInsider's Road to Mac OS X Snow Leopard series.

Warner Music sold share in Lala at $11M loss after Apple purchase

Before Apple purchased music streaming service Lala for $85 million late last year, Warner Music was an investor in the company. Warner purchased a minority share in Lala for $20 million in 2007.

The music company sold its share in Lala in December to Apple, for which it received $9 million in cash. The sale price was disclosed in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission revealed Tuesday.

"The warrants had an exercise price that was in excess of the total merger consideration paid in respect of the shares for which it could be exercised and, therefore, expired at the time of the closing of the sale of (Lala) to Apple," the filing reads.

Warner Music, however, continues to have content agreements with the now-Apple-owned company. Those agreements earned Warner $300,000 in fees during 2009.

Apple's purchase of Lala is expected to pave the way for a cloud-based iTunes streaming service. Some have speculated that a recent update to iTunes Preview, allowing song samples to be heard from a Web browser, could be a sign of things to come.

iPhone OS 4.2 spotted in analytics

When checking statistics for his applications through Pinch Media, iPhone app developer Tim Martin encountered a strange find: A single iPhone identified as having version 4.2.0 of the mobile operating system.

While the identifier could theoretically be faked, it's worth noting that recent reports have suggested the iPhone 4.0 SDK could appear as soon as this month.

Rumors have suggested the development kit includes a "simulator" that aims to make it easy for developers to adapt to different screen resolutions, and possibly be compatible with Apple's forthcoming touchscreen tablet.



Martin is a developer with flakasoft, which has created "Robert Lang's Origami" and "The Paper Plane Guy's Construction Kit."

Former Apple exec joins Elevation Partners

Elevation Partners, a private equity firm, announced Tuesday that Avie Tevanian joined the company as managing director. Tevanian left Apple, where he served as chief technology officer, in 2006.

Tevanian's connection to Apple co-founder Steve Jobs began when the two met at Carnegie Mellon University. He joined Jobs at NeXT and used his knowledge of the Mach kernel to form the foundation of the NEXTSTEP operating system, which later evolved into Mac OS X.

When NeXT was acquired by Apple, Tevanian followed Jobs and began working on Mac OS X, the operating system for which he is largely considered the grandfather. The move is another example of Palm's continued courting of former members of Apple's top brass. Elevation Partners has a 25 percent stake in Palm.

In 2007, former Apple CFO Fred Anderson joined Elevation Partners as a general board member. In addition, Jon Rubinstein, former senior engineering VP with Apple, is the chief executive of Palm.

Rubinstein, considered to have played a crucial role in the creation of the iPod, made waves last week when he claimed that he has never used an iPhone. Even though Palm is a competitor with Apple in the handset space, Rubinstein also said he doesn't worry about the iPhone, and his company doesn't pay much attention to Apple.
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Quite a mixed bag of stories. Nice to see some improvements in Logic Pro, but still too much program for my needs.

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When checking statistics for his applications through Pinch Media, iPhone app developer, Tim Martin encountered a strange find: A single iPhone identified as having version 4.2.0 of the mobile operating system.

So Apple is going to skip right past 4.0 and straight to 4.2.0? And somehow this doesn't seem faked or like some weird glitch in the reporting site?
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How is it remotely possible to see builds of 4.2 already? 4.0 hasn't even been announced yet, and with a likely release in june or july (but possibly sooner as per the rumors go, and there havent been any new iPhone OS beta builds lately) , wouldn't that leave 4.2 somewhere in late 2010 or even 2011?
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1) Were these apps all Cocoa before but lacking the 64-bit option or did Apple do something unique to enable 64-bit?

2) Lala seems like an expensive purchase at $85M. I still don’t see any evidence of IP that could be worth that much and wold think poaching employees would be much cheaper.

3) I wish sites would stop reporting on easily spoofed OS versions when it’s clear Apple has been testing the next iPhone OS version. This doesn’t even state what build of Safari was used.

4) I have to assume that Apple will use the same aspect ratio when they up the resolution. This makes things easy for developers. Weren’t they supposed to be making apps resolution independent from the get go? (Yes, this is completely different from the parallel fragmentation going on with Android-based devices)
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... doesn't pay much attention to Apple.

Does this include the time when Palm was continuously trying to piggyback on iTunes for their Pre?
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I have to assume that Apple will use the same aspect ratio when they up the resolution. This makes things easy for developers. Werent they supposed to be making apps resolution independent from the get go? (Yes, this is completely different from the parallel fragmentation going on with Android-based devices)

As I recall an earlier article stated that Apple had asked developers to prepare apps for full screen display which although rather vague, does beg to question what will happen from a scalability concern to the hot areas related to buttons and UI controls. Do the sizes of the hot areas then become much larger than necessary for manipulation?

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In before Avie Tevanian bashing by sore Apple fans.

What insults are we going to hear about this guy now?
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"The warrants had an exercise price that was in excess of the total merger consideration paid in respect of the shares for which it could be exercised and, therefore, expired at the time of the closing of the sale of (Lala) to Apple," the filing reads.

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Way to go Warner... Put money on the table to create competition for iTunes and then...
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Say that in English

They had warrants to purchase stock in the company, but the cost of them exercising those warrants would have been more than the full purchase price that Apple paid for the company, so , their warrants went buh-bye.
They still get $9 million for their investment of $20 million though...
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In before Avie Tevanian bashing by sore Apple fans.

What insults are we going to hear about this guy now?

You don't actually have a life, do you?
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How is it remotely possible to see builds of 4.2 already? 4.0 hasn't even been announced yet, and with a likely release in june or july (but possibly sooner as per the rumors go, and there havent been any new iPhone OS beta builds lately) , wouldn't that leave 4.2 somewhere in late 2010 or even 2011?

So advanced that it skips a few version numbers!
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In before Avie Tevanian bashing by sore Apple fans.

What insults are we going to hear about this guy now?

He's a driven, brilliant Ph.D., who has a proven track record on driving OS releases to market?

Avie is a great guy.
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In before Avie Tevanian bashing by sore Apple fans.

What insults are we going to hear about this guy now?

The insults are going to be about you, not Avie. Unless and until he does something underhanded or insulting (like Rubinstein keeps doing), there will be no criticism of him.
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/taps foot

still waiting for news about Aperture
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1) Were these apps all Cocoa before but lacking the 64-bit option or did Apple do something unique to enable 64-bit?

logic is an OLD piece of work, dating back decades in its previously inceptions. i imagine it's the sort of project that (unfortunately) requires a lot of work to keep it up with the times, love it though i do
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In before Avie Tevanian bashing by sore Apple fans.

What insults are we going to hear about this guy now?

Umm let me try my hand at it:

Avie Tevanian received his B.A. in Mathematics from the University of Rochester, and his M.S. and Ph.D. degrees in computer science from Carnegie Mellon University, where he served a pivotal role in the development of the Mach kernel. He was recruited by Steve Jobs for NeXT, and subsequently served Apple in the pivotal roles of as both Senior Vice President of Software Engineering(1997 to 2003) and a Chief Software Technology Officer(2003 to 2006), developing MacOSX, then retiring from Apple in 2006. He became a board member at Green Hills Software shortly after that. In May 2006, it was announced that Tevanian had joined the board of Tellme Networks and is on the board for Dolby as well. And now is bringing his expertise to Elevation Partners where he can party hearty with former Apple friends, especially former Apple CFO Fred Anderson, former eBay exec Rajiv Dutta, Roger McNamee and U2’s Bono.

With a 30% stake in Palm, Elevation is either looking to rebuild Palm into a 21st century handheld device competitor for RIM, Apple, Google, etc., or conversely deconstruct it gracefully while they look around for the next great thing to champion. Of course maybe Avie can show John Rubenstein what an iPhone looks like. Seriously EP looks like an Apple frat house! Shades of Animal House!

(see ifail, some of us can recognize excellence no matter what, while haterz just sputter and gibber incoherently)
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RE: Logic

going to 64 bit solved a not-insignificant problem for Apple in Logic 9-- some serious pro users were getting strange out-of-memory error messages for docs that previously worked well in older versions.

the memory overhead for for Logic 9 (the program itself increased) so virtual instruments that required lots of RAM were making the program run out of memory.

Viva Logic 9 -- Apple has been updating the program very regularly -- the pro audio community thanks you.
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iPhone OS 4.2?

Surely you meant iPhone OS 3.2

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/taps foot

still waiting for news about Aperture

Me too. Still waiting for some signs of life in Aperture. Face recognition, better location management (not through a plugin but embedded such as iPhoto), more book options (bigger ones), layer editing, better organization of library (which is becoming really huge in on my computer).

I guess the delay has something to do with the rewriting of Aperture.

But it seems it's taking a lot of time...
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Mmm... Sonic insanity. Imagine Logic accessing 32GB of RAM.

Actually, a 27" Core i7 iMac with 8GB of RAM would make a nice pseudo-portable Logic rig thingy... For those who don't need Mac Pros and 30" Cinema Displays...
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ra ma ma ma ma ga ga ooh la la

(Rah)² (Ah)³ + [Roma (1+Ma)] + (Ga)² + (Ooh)(La)²
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(Rah)² (Ah)³ + [Roma (1+Ma)] + (Ga)² + (Ooh)(La)²

Nice.
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Apple's FAQ was originally written as:

"Today's computing power along with great software like Logic Pro and Autotunes plug-ins allow complete garbage to dominate the music charts."

"With support for 64-bit, there is essentially no practical limit to the crap songs that are going to dominate the radio and Internets."

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The insults are going to be about you, not Avie. Unless and until he does something underhanded or insulting (like Rubinstein keeps doing), there will be no criticism of him.

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