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Hours after Verizon announced its own reduced rates, AT&T responded in kind, offering a $99.99 per month unlimited voice and data plan for iPhone customers.

Starting Monday, iPhone customers will be able to sign up for unlimited voice and data for $99.99. The new plan is a $30 decrease over the previous rate. AT&T is the exclusive carrier of the iPhone in the U.S.

Customers with Family Talk plans, which include at least two smartphones, unlimited voice and data now runs $179.99. For all plans, unlimited texts will remain an extra $20 for individuals and $30 for Family Talk plans.

"With more than twice the number of smartphone customers as our nearest competitor, we are committed to offering great value and choice for customers who want to talk, text and surf on the nations fastest 3G network," said Ralph de la Vega, president and CEO, AT&T Mobility and Consumer Markets.

"Our new plans reflect customers' continuing desire to do more with their phones including talking and browsing the Web at the same time. Plus these new plans make it even more attractive to choose AT&T which already offers customers the best 3G experience and the industrys most popular and innovative devices."

Existing AT&T customers can choose to switch to any of the new plans without penalty or contract extension. Just visit the online account management tool at att.com/wireless.

Additional new plans for non-smartphone customers are also available. Feature phone customers can get unlimited talk for $69.99 for individuals and Family Talk plans starting at $119.99. Quick messaging devices can also get those prices.

The pricing changes came in response to new plans unveiled by Verizon Friday. Verizon also announced it is doing away with its $19.99 75MB data package for 3G multimedia phones. In its place is the 25MB, $9.99-per-month plan for all 3G phones, giving access to e-mail, games and the Internet. The $69.999 unlimited calling plan does not include data costs.

Both companies' billing changes come as they are in a heated battle for customers. AT&T and Verrizon were involved in a heavily publicized legal battle that was eventually dropped, though both companies remain engaged in advertising that heavily criticizes the other.

Verizon has parodied Apple's "There's an app for that" slogan by comparing its superior coverage 3G coverage map with AT&T, using the tagline "There's a map for that." And AT&T hired actor Luke Wilson to "set the record straight" on AT&T's coverage and point out areas where AT&T beats Verizon, like the ability to make calls and access data on handsets at the same time.

Verizon's comments on the prospect of tiered data plans were similar to what AT&T President Ralph de La Vega said last month. The AT&T executive's comments led to rumors that the wireless provider intended to introduce tiered plans for iPhone users, something the company emphatically denied was in the works.
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Just what we need.. so us, the customer, wins.
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Verizon is filming a commercial right now in my back yard (so to speak) in North Vancouver.
They have a huge wolf that's going to be in it.
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Thus proving the Verizon iPhone is coming, not that I know what Verizon is.
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Verizon is filming a commercial right now in my back yard (so to speak) in North Vancouver.
They have a huge wolf that's going to be in it.

what?
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Thus proving the Verizon iPhone is coming, not that I know what Verizon is.

I hope so! Thats all i've been waiting for after dropping AT&T's crap. NO 3G and horrendous edge in my town yet 10 mins to north and 5 mins to south 3G flourishes. Verizon has outstanding 3G coverage and would rather have a tad slower rate of download(so i've read?) but consistent coverage then spotty ass service from you know who.
post #7 of 88
too bad i'll pay more for time warner cable for internet and TV without their phone service
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Competition is a beautiful thing. I hope we will see even more of it in a couple of weeks at a certain event.
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I currently pay $59 for 900 minute plan with rollover minutes of which I never go over 900 minutes and I've accumulated like 2000 rollover minutes and I pay $30 unlimited data plan which comes out to $89 for me, so I save $10 bucks...If you have a lot of rollover minutes or never go over 900 minutes I wouldn't switch!
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I currently pay $59 for 900 minute plan with rollover minutes of which I never go over 900 minutes and I've accumulated like 2000 rollover minutes and I pay $30 unlimited data plan which comes out to $89 for me, so I save $10 bucks...If you have a lot of rollover minutes or never go over 900 minutes I wouldn't switch!

This is not at all what I need. I'm a fairly heavy iPhone 3GS user. Voice communications (the telephone) doesn't make my top twenty in terms of the functions that I use the iPhone for. It's all about Apps for me. I'm constantly checking email, watching a CNN news video, downloading a file from my iDisk, checking stock quotes, checking realtime traffic maps, playing iPod music from the iPhone through my car stereo, etc. I don't like to talk on the phone and don't do it very much. Also don't ever use texting. In fact, I opted out of texting when I set up my current iPhone contract.

Number 1 - I want unlimited data. Number 2 - I want laptop tethering at no additional charge. Number 3 - I want the cell phone service providers to get together and totally eliminate international roaming charges.
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Number 1 - I want unlimited data. Number 2 - I want laptop tethering at no additional charge. Number 3 - I want the cell phone service providers to get together and totally eliminate international roaming charges.

and I want whorled peas...
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I guess you will be happy with horrendous customer service, greediness in terms of cost, Verizon control over your use of the phone, and the ability to use only voice or data at a time unlike AT&T and T-Mobile where you can do both [e.g. no talking and surfing the net at the same time]. From experience, as much as I dislike AT&T, I'd rather suffer through it's growing pains then subject myself to Verizon. Verizon gets my vote for worst company on the planet.

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I hope so! Thats all i've been waiting for after dropping AT&T's crap. NO 3G and horrendous edge in my town yet 10 mins to north and 5 mins to south 3G flourishes. Verizon has outstanding 3G coverage and would rather have a tad slower rate of download(so i've read?) but consistent coverage then spotty ass service from you know who.
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I guess you will be happy with horrendous customer service, greediness in terms of cost, Verizon control over your use of the phone, and the ability to use only voice or data at a time unlike AT&T and T-Mobile where you can do both [e.g. no talking and surfing the net at the same time]. From experience, as much as I dislike AT&T, I'd rather suffer through it's growing pains then subject myself to Verizon. Verizon gets my vote for worst company on the planet.

Verizon Wireless has always been at the top of all customer service surveys vs. AT&T has always been at the bottom.

Cost has been the same for both Verizon and AT&T --- and it's always Verizon that start the price war with AT&T matching it within hours.

Verizon controlling the phone is the same as Apple controlling the phone --- you the consumer ain't controlling the phone.

3G has been available for about 10 years now. Only now when we are ready to move to 4G that this whole technical deficiency gets any attention --- which means only one thing, Verizon made the correct technical choice for ev-do.
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Thus proving the Verizon iPhone is coming, not that I know what Verizon is.

how much data? iTunes movies/tv shows eat up bandwidth quickly and I'd expect a mac touch to tether...
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Number 1 - I want unlimited data. Number 2 - I want laptop tethering at no additional charge. Number 3 - I want the cell phone service providers to get together and totally eliminate international roaming charges.

We all want that badly but its never going to happen.
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See...the free market works. Government, keep out!

All we need is for someone to drop the Text Messaging rates....the rest will follow.
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Id better be able to get the 69 dollar plan with my Bold or i am going to be incredibly irate.
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This does nothing for me and still leaves the SMS oligopoly untouched.

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Thus proving the Verizon iPhone is coming, not that I know what Verizon is.

How does this prove the iPhone is coming to Verizon?


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I hope so! Thats all i've been waiting for after dropping AT&T's crap.

I hope it comes to Verizon, too, because it will make my stock jump and it will hopefully alleviate some of the congestion on my AT&T network. Regardless, I’m not giving up rollover minutes (though it’s not like I ever use them), unlimited data, HSDPA/HSUPA that Verizon can’t even come close to matching, and most importantly, simultaneous voice and data for the most worthwhile multitasking option.


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3G has been available for about 10 years now. Only now when we are ready to move to 4G that this whole technical deficiency gets any attention --- which means only one thing, Verizon made the correct technical choice for ev-do.

Always with the disinformation. Are you paid for by the 3GPP2 to spew this propaganda or is it just a hobby?
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Always with the disinformation. Are you paid for by the 3GPP2 to spew this propaganda or is it just a hobby?

Verizon went national with 3G in 2004 --- and people are only starting to complain about it 6 years later.

3GPP went grandiose with video calling --- and we still haven't seen anyone actually using it --- worldwide.

LTE is a pure digital data network with zero voice --- just like ev-do. The future has spoken --- and it's Qualcomm's vision along.
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Honestly, I think if customers can get unlimited data and unlimited voice for a family plan that costs $180 a month then what about people like me who is paying $180 already who is limited to 1,400 minutes? It seems like this price adjustment would cascade to other plans, too...

We have a family plan with 2 iphones and we pay $175.46 each month.

Voice Plan @ 1,400 minutes = $80
Phone 1: Data Plan = $30 + 200 txt = $5
Phone 2: Data Plan = $30 + 200 txt = $5 + Extra Line = $10
Taxes/Fees = $15.46
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Grand Total: $175.46

MacWorld agrees: "If I understand him correctly, that makes the Nation 1350 with Rollover Minutes especially unattractive come Monday. That plan costs $80 a month, plus the $30 data plan—in other words, $10 more than what iPhone users will be paying for unlimited voice and data starting next week."

http://www.macworld.com/article/1457...?lsrc=rss_main

- Evan
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Now if Comcast would only drop their HD premium and offer it for free to all of their customers. It would be a sweet day indeed.
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Verizon went national with 3G in 2004 --- and people are only starting to complain about it 6 years later.

3GPP went grandiose with video calling --- and we still haven't seen anyone actually using it --- worldwide.

LTE is a pure digital data network with zero voice --- just like ev-do. The future has spoken --- and it's Qualcomm's vision along.

And the disinformation continues. You ignore the fact that higher-speed data for phones was mostly pointless for most users until the iPhone made smartphones viable for the average consumer creating an entire shift in the market. You ignore the fact that Qualcomm lost the 3G' war by charging such outrageous licensing fees that an entirely new standard was created and adopted over most of the world, utilizing only select Qualcomm patents leaving EV-DO in the defunct state it is now with hardly anyone upgrading to Rev. B. You also omitted the fact that Qualcomm had no choice but to get behind LTE in producing HW because their sponsoring of 3GPP2s UMB was a complete disaster as the world wasnt going to let Qualcomm control so much of the mobile infrastructure ever again. Finally, youve ignored the entire reason why Verizon had to move to LTE before 3GSM-based networks and why Sprint made the wrong move to WiMAX even earlier, which was the dead-end tech that is EV-DO in comparison to the wide-open, feature-rich, high-bandwidth path of HSPA and LTE.
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Honestly, I think if customers can get unlimited data and unlimited voice for a family plan that costs $180 a month then what about people like me who is paying $180 already who is limited to 1,400 minutes? It seems like this price adjustment would cascade to other plans, too...

Maybe I've misses the point but... this was a quote taken directly from the story:

"Existing AT&T customers can choose to switch to any of the new plans without penalty or contract extension. Just visit the online account management tool at att.com/wireless."

So wouldn't u just switch to the unlimited plan and not even worry about extending the contract etc?
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way too expensive for 2 people. I pay half that, I have 2000 mins per month, ulimited calling, web and texts, free world roaming and have 4 phones sharing the minutes with sprint. 3 smart phones one regular.

The unlimited data is false advertising not that they have the bandwidth to even let you take advantage of it even if it were truly unlimited.
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The unlimited data is false advertising not that they have the bandwidth to even let you take advantage of it even if it were truly unlimited.

So they don't have the bandwidth making it a non issue and/or it is an issue for you no matter what?

If you regularly download 5GB of crap on a smart phone you have no life.
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LTE is a pure digital data network with zero voice --- just like ev-do. The future has spoken --- and it's Qualcomm's vision along.

We've been pure digital for 12+ years now, where have you been?
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If you regularly download 5GB of crap on a smart phone you have no life.

Without tethering, I can do that at an airport renting movies or buying the previous nights TV Shows for a trip.

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We've been pure digital for 12+ years now, where have you been?

In his defense, he likely meant IP data without a voice channel, not analog.
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Verizon Wireless has always been at the top of all customer service surveys vs. AT&T has always been at the bottom.

Cost has been the same for both Verizon and AT&T --- and it's always Verizon that start the price war with AT&T matching it within hours.

Verizon controlling the phone is the same as Apple controlling the phone --- you the consumer ain't controlling the phone.

3G has been available for about 10 years now. Only now when we are ready to move to 4G that this whole technical deficiency gets any attention --- which means only one thing, Verizon made the correct technical choice for ev-do.

Whatever. Last time I checked I wasn't a survey. I've had consistently great support and service with AT&T ever since I purchased my first iPhone. That doesn't mean I'm a shill for AT&T as YMMV. What it means is that me, myself and I have not had a problem. Although, the three of us are thinking that perhaps we should be on a family plan?
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And the disinformation continues. You ignore the fact that higher-speed data for phones was mostly pointless for most users until the iPhone made smartphones viable for the average consumer creating an entire shift in the market. You ignore the fact that Qualcomm lost the ‘3G' war by charging such outrageous licensing fees that an entirely new standard was created and adopted over most of the world, utilizing only select Qualcomm patents leaving EV-DO in the defunct state it is now with hardly anyone upgrading to Rev. B. You also omitted the fact that Qualcomm had no choice but to get behind LTE in producing HW because their sponsoring of 3GPP2’s UMB was a complete disaster as the world wasn’t going to let Qualcomm control so much of the mobile infrastructure ever again. Finally, you’ve ignored the entire reason why Verizon had to move to LTE before 3GSM-based networks and why Sprint made the wrong move to WiMAX even earlier, which was the dead-end tech that is EV-DO in comparison to the wide-open, feature-rich, high-bandwidth path of HSPA and LTE.

That's my whole point, isn't it? It's only a very recent issue for this supposed technical deficiency. So Verizon's decision to go with ev-do 7-8 years ago was the correct decision. Qualcomm's decision to kill ev-dv was the correct decision.

Qualcomm WON the war --- they are the largest mobile technology company in the world. Qualcomm's size equals to Nokia and TI combined.

In 2005, Qualcomm bought Flarion and all of its flash-ofdm patents to create their 4G patent war chest. Doesn't matter whether UMB dies on the drafting table or not --- Qualcomm is the largest patent holder in LTE. They won once again.

All I see is basically the entire AT&T and T-Mobile android phone line-up are based on Qualcomm chipsets and that AT&T is going with BREW MP for their feature phones. 9 out of 10 AT&T phones will have BREW MP and Qualcomm chipset inside --- if you call that a Qualcomm loss, then who won? I don't see Verizon making a mistake with ev-do and was forced somehow to migrate to LTE. What I see is AT&T migrating to Qualcomm stuff.
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I must be misunderstanding something. Does that mean Verizon had a 75 MB/month data cap, now down to 25 MB/month?

I use that much driving down the road with Google Maps turned on!
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. Number 2 - I want laptop tethering at no additional charge. .

Jailbreak + carrier settings
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[e.g. no talking and surfing the net at the same time].

I've had quite a few times where the iPhone is not on 3G and on Edge and you can't talk and surf.

Ymmv
just sayin'
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3 - I want the cell phone service providers to get together and totally eliminate international roaming charges.

Until laws are present to protect the corporations, it will never happen. Even in the EU, where almost every country have Vodafone and T-mobile, the roaming charges withing the same network are laughable (although the EU forced these corps to lower them). Regarding global roaming charges, we can dream on...
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I guess you will be happy with horrendous customer service, greediness in terms of cost, Verizon control over your use of the phone, and the ability to use only voice or data at a time unlike AT&T and T-Mobile where you can do both [e.g. no talking and surfing the net at the same time]. From experience, as much as I dislike AT&T, I'd rather suffer through it's growing pains then subject myself to Verizon. Verizon gets my vote for worst company on the planet.

To be fair, you should make the distinction in Verizon *wireless* and just verizon. Support for my FiOS connection and land lines isnt bad.

I also take issue with the mentioning of cost in an article talking about AT&T matching verizon's price drops.

Last, in terms of coverage, my girlfriend's verizon phone almost never drops a call, my AT&T phones do, not several times a day but several times a *conversation* sometimes. Why yes, I am in NYC, how did you know?

Cingular was actually good, SBC bought AT&T and everything went to pot.

All that's not to say verizon wireless isnt horribly crappy in 100 other ways (like locking down phones, less *broad* coverage area, yes horrible customer service [far far worse than at&ts!), limitations on their 3g implementation, etc) but at&t aint *that* much better
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post #35 of 88
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See...the free market works. Government, keep out!

And what has the free market done for roaming charges? Roaming charges are for most people a rare enough event that people are not price-sensitive to them.
If one could choose a different provider for roaming purposes, there would be a lot more competition. Or if SIM-locks would be illegal, you at least could get a local SIM card. Providers could still recoup their subsidies by two-year contracts with high baseline charges.
But the free market would never outlaw SIM locks.
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This is not at all what I need. I'm a fairly heavy iPhone 3GS user. Voice communications (the telephone) doesn't make my top twenty in terms of the functions that I use the iPhone for. It's all about Apps for me. I'm constantly checking email, watching a CNN news video, downloading a file from my iDisk, checking stock quotes, checking realtime traffic maps, playing iPod music from the iPhone through my car stereo, etc. I don't like to talk on the phone and don't do it very much. Also don't ever use texting. In fact, I opted out of texting when I set up my current iPhone contract.

Number 1 - I want unlimited data. Number 2 - I want laptop tethering at no additional charge. Number 3 - I want the cell phone service providers to get together and totally eliminate international roaming charges.

Yea so do we all. Keep dreaming buddy
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And the disinformation continues. You ignore the fact that higher-speed data for phones was mostly pointless for most users until the iPhone made smartphones viable for the average consumer creating an entire shift in the market. You ignore the fact that Qualcomm lost the 3G' war by charging such outrageous licensing fees that an entirely new standard was created and adopted over most of the world, utilizing only select Qualcomm patents leaving EV-DO in the defunct state it is now with hardly anyone upgrading to Rev. B. You also omitted the fact that Qualcomm had no choice but to get behind LTE in producing HW because their sponsoring of 3GPP2s UMB was a complete disaster as the world wasnt going to let Qualcomm control so much of the mobile infrastructure ever again. Finally, youve ignored the entire reason why Verizon had to move to LTE before 3GSM-based networks and why Sprint made the wrong move to WiMAX even earlier, which was the dead-end tech that is EV-DO in comparison to the wide-open, feature-rich, high-bandwidth path of HSPA and LTE.

Only someone deluded by Apple marketing thinks that 3G was utterly pointless before the iPhone. Laughable.

The iPhone was utterly pointless before it was 3G.
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And the disinformation continues. You ignore the fact that higher-speed data for phones was mostly pointless for most users until the iPhone made smartphones viable for the average consumer creating an entire shift in the market. You ignore the fact that Qualcomm lost the ‘3G' war by charging such outrageous licensing fees that an entirely new standard was created and adopted over most of the world, utilizing only select Qualcomm patents leaving EV-DO in the defunct state it is now with hardly anyone upgrading to Rev. B. You also omitted the fact that Qualcomm had no choice but to get behind LTE in producing HW because their sponsoring of 3GPP2’s UMB was a complete disaster as the world wasn’t going to let Qualcomm control so much of the mobile infrastructure ever again. Finally, you’ve ignored the entire reason why Verizon had to move to LTE before 3GSM-based networks and why Sprint made the wrong move to WiMAX even earlier, which was the dead-end tech that is EV-DO in comparison to the wide-open, feature-rich, high-bandwidth path of HSPA and LTE.

dude you rock
thanks for the timely clear info

i guess apples data farms will power up the iphones even more
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Verizon Wireless has always been at the top of all customer service surveys vs. AT&T has always been at the bottom.

Cost has been the same for both Verizon and AT&T --- and it's always Verizon that start the price war with AT&T matching it within hours.

Verizon controlling the phone is the same as Apple controlling the phone --- you the consumer ain't controlling the phone.

3G has been available for about 10 years now. Only now when we are ready to move to 4G that this whole technical deficiency gets any attention --- which means only one thing, Verizon made the correct technical choice for ev-do.

What a set of garbage those sentences are.

Verizon controlling the phone is not the same as Apple controlling the phone. If it were, Apple would only allow you to have Apple applications on it, only music purchased through Apple, movies, videos, etc. That's what Verizon control is (was, thanks to Apple.)

Verizon is more expensive than AT&T, always has been, and you can check my posts on other threads on this topic for plenty of factual information, as solipsism and I have gone over time and again.

On the surface Verizon looks less expensive, until you break a plan down feature for feature. With Verizon logic, you can have a data plan now for $9.99. As soon as you use it, however, you'll go over the ridiculously low data allowance and get charged extra for going over. It's not as inexpensive as they advertise it. Read the allowances and you'll see that AT&T trumps Verizon every time.
post #40 of 88
The thing that kills me about this is the following:

I barely use my phone for voice outside of calling my girlfriend (who is also on AT&T), therefore, I rarely use more than ~150 minutes a month... I don't want a cheaper unlimited plan, I want a cheaper/fewer minutes plan!

I use alot of data, so $30/month for data is fine, but I would be ecstatic to pay 20/month for 200 minutes (I have an office phone and work 12 h/day).

its all just a silly way to take my money!

but I need my iPhone -- its way too fun to abandon!
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