Democratic Dirty Tricks - Massachusetts Edition

Saturday, January 16, 9:30 AM
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Jot down there callback number put it on autodial

Reminisce about the good old days

Ask about their grandkids and family and ask if theyre voting for coakley are any of them in the military? Why not? Whats wrong with that

when they eventually hang up start calling them back on autodial to talk

Anyone have access to any robocall setups?

just a thought Off to conventionland again in AMGood luck up North next Tuesday-dont forget to be ready to call shenanigans etc

Post callers numbers so we all can call them back. We can tie them up more!

Originally Posted by trumptman

Finally the very comments you post appear to deal with calling the robocallers BACK repeatedly. The street goes both ways. If they can harass you to go vote, you can harass them to shut up.

Originally Posted by trumptman

but since you fail to understand quantifiers, this limitation is known.

Originally Posted by trumptman

It has and your lack of understanding on it has been explained by not just myself, but half a dozen other people as well. Go point at your mirror and laugh there.

Originally Posted by trumptman

You fail to note that the law relates to crossing state boundaries and influencing an election. If someone wants to use a phone bank in New York to influence an election in Massachusetts, the feds can become involved and a law may be broken (You appear to not know James Tobin's conviction was overturned.) Publishing numbers in no where near the same but again, look who this is being discussed with, a guy who thinks the exception always proves the rule.



I'll pull whatever I want out and slap it on your forehead for good measure. There is nothing Republicans have ever done that can compare with ACORN.



It has and your lack of understanding on it has been explained by not just myself, but half a dozen other people as well. Go point at your mirror and laugh there.

I'll pull whatever I want out and slap it on your forehead for good measure

Originally Posted by trumptman

Republicans have offered many alternatives. The clearest summation of them was offered by the CEO of Whole Foods who immediately had people threatening his business with boycotts for daring to actually offer alternatives.

All eight recommendations in that article would easily pass in a bipartisan manner and would not add to the deficit.

In the meantime though there are dirty tricks to discuss and John Kerry has gotten busted borrowing a play from his old playbook.



Today we get this.....



Sorry John, that song has already been spun. The same tired old accusations offered with no proof, and when examined often involved SEUI thugs beating regular Americans are the reality.

The 'end of life panel's that medical boards have are scary enough, but obama wants to assure us that a government bureaucracy led 'end of life panel' will do a better job and cheaper?!?!

Originally Posted by jimmac

The thing is even if the Republicans take Mass. and stall healthcare refortm they still aren't offering a better plan in it's place ( cost, coverage, deficit wise ). Once again they're really on top of blaming the Democrats for stuff but come up empty when it comes to a better alternative. So in the end if they stall out healthcare reform they'll look like the party of " No " again.

So strange as it may seem this might work against them. The american people may not be happy with Obama's performance in his first year ( I really wouldn't have made HCRF the big thing right off the bat and concentrated on other things ) but that's not an automatic vote in the Republicans favor. They're still pretty unpopular still. And they don't seem to get that.

A new InsiderAdvantage poll conducted exclusively for POLITICO shows Republican Scott Brown holding a 9-point advantage over Martha Coakley a day before Massachusetts voters trek to the ballot box to choose a new senator.

According to the survey conducted Sunday evening by the non-partisan firm, Brown leads the Democratic attorney general 52 percent to 43 percent.

The results came as Suffolk University in Boston released a survey Monday reporting that Brown surged to a double-digit lead in three Massachusetts communities identified as bellwethers because party registration in those cities is similar to the statewide voter makeup and because in the most recent like election the November 2006 Senate race the results in all three communities were within 1 percentage point of the actual statewide results for each candidate.

"I actually think the bottom is falling out," said InsiderAdvantage CEO Matt Towery, referring to Coakley's fall in the polls over the last ten days. "I think that this candidate is in freefall. Clearly this race is imploding for her."

The numbers show males and independents overwhelmingly breaking for Brown, who has married his GQ looks with a populist tone in a pick-up truck on the campaign trail.

Brown holds a 15-point lead among males and crushes Coakley by 41 points among self-described independents, a group that's been steadily inching away from the Democratic party over the last year due to growing apprehension with government spending, bailouts and health care reform.

"Men are not going to vote for Coakley at all. You have a very angry male voter who's repudiating whatever is being said in Washington and they're taking it out on this woman. And independents are clearly going to the Republican in droves. What's left are the Democratic voters," said Towery, who is a former aide to Newt Gingrich.

And the survey shows almost a quarter of Democratic voters lining up with Brown.

A DailyKos/Research 2000 poll released Monday painted a much tighter campaign, showing the race knotted at 48 percent each.

"We're about to learn whether Obama can deliver electoral votes," wrote DailyKos founder Markos Moulitsas on his Twitter page.
...
"When there's a nine-point difference, it's awfully hard to shave off enough to win," Towery said. "The older voters are even tied. And the youngest voters have turned against the Democrats," he said, pointing to Brown's 61 to 30 percent lead among voters 18 to 29 years old. (Voters 65 and older, typically a key Democratic constituency, are divided between the two contenders, 48 percent a piece).

InsiderAdvantage's polling pool was made up of 20 percent Republicans and 43 percent of Democrats, though estimates show that independents make up just over 50 percent of all Massachusetts voters. "It'd be even worse for (Coakley) if we weighed it towards more independents," Towery said.

Other election eve polling is also tracking towards Brown. The Republican pollster, American Research Group, pins Brown's lead at 7 points, 52 to 45 percent, in a three-day survey released Monday. Public Policy Polling's final survey put Brown up 51 to 46 percent, a lead that falls within the margin of error.

Originally Posted by MaxParrish

Well after reading the following link, I don't see how any moral person could vote for Coakley. I don't expect much character in a politician, but I can't believe any humane person could vote for the Inquisitions Torquemada.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...640657862.html

The prosecutors in the Moscow Trials would be envious of her ruthless talents.

For those curious about Coakley's moral and character mentor:

Tomás de Torquemada, O.P. (1420 September 16, 1498) was a fifteenth century Spanish Dominican friar, first Inquisitor General of Spain, and confessor to Isabella I of Castile. He was famously described by the Spanish chronicler Sebastián de Olmedo as "The hammer of heretics, the light of Spain, the saviour of his country, the honour of his order". He is known for his zealous campaign against the crypto-Jews and crypto-Muslims of Spain. He was one of the chief supporters of the Alhambra Decree, which expelled the Jews from Spain in 1492. The number of autos-de-fé during Torquemada's tenure as Inquisitor General have been hotly debated over the years. Today, there is a general consensus that about 2000 people were burned by the Inquisition in the whole of Spain between 1480 and 1530[1], while Torquemada was Grand Inquisitor from 1483 until his death in 1498.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom%C3%A1s_de_Torquemada

Originally Posted by NoahJ

Hard to know how much you are exaggerating since your link is broken...

Originally Posted by MaxParrish

Sure, I am having a bit of fun with Torquemada, she is not quite that bad...although the Moscow Trial prosecutors could learn a few points from her...

I fixed the link, try again.

Originally Posted by trumptman

I have no problem with people spamming spammers. If you think a few comments on a blog are the same as state party mailers, nationally syndicated radio hosts, or news anchors on MSNBC then clearly you have no sense of perspective, but since you fail to understand quantifiers, this limitation is known.

Originally Posted by NoahJ

The Backlash Is Coming! The Backlash Is Coming!
People in Massachusetts think they're at the leading edge of politics. That's not good news for Democrats.

The next couple of days could very well signal a change in the direction of politics. I don't know that the voters are stampeding for the Republican party as much as they are fleeing the Democrats. Whatever the case, this particular race has been very interesting to follow, even casually.

Whatever the outcome in this potential photo-finish Senate race, Republicans and Democrats should be learning the essential lesson that their play-to-the-base impulses try to ignore: Independent voters hold the balance of power in American politics. Even in Massachusetts.

Originally Posted by trumptman

^^^^^^^^^^
The irony of someone calling someone else a homophobe while using the term "teabagger" is just too sad to be funny.

Originally Posted by trumptman

Republicans have offered many alternatives. The clearest summation of them was offered by the CEO of Whole Foods who immediately had people threatening his business with boycotts for daring to actually offer alternatives.

All eight recommendations in that article would easily pass in a bipartisan manner and would not add to the deficit.

In the meantime though there are dirty tricks to discuss and John Kerry has gotten busted borrowing a play from his old playbook.



Today we get this.....



Sorry John, that song has already been spun. The same tired old accusations offered with no proof, and when examined often involved SEUI thugs beating regular Americans are the reality.

All eight recommendations in that article would easily pass in a bipartisan manner and would not add to the deficit.

Originally Posted by trumptman

Li

BTW, just so you are aware, when you make on topic replies, you'll get one as well. If you spam the forums seeking a reply on your attempts to troll, you'll just get reported.

Originally Posted by trumptman

iIt is a known homophobic and offensive term

-Fiscal conservatives may want to root for a Martha Coakley victory in Massachusetts Tuesday.

A Democratic loss of the U.S. Senate seat in the Bay State will increase pressure on senators and representatives facing re-election in November to shore up their support with economic pump-priming measures. That response could be bad for the deficit outlook and the economy.

When asked whether "ACORN will try to steal the election for Martha Coakley," a surprising 25% of those surveyed in Massachusetts said "yes." A total of 38% said "no," and another 37% weren't sure. Lest you think concern about ACORN was limited to Republicans, one out of six Democrats thought ACORN would attempt electoral hanky-panky. One out of four African-Americans expressed the same concern, along with the same number of voters who called themselves moderates.

Another casualty of the expectation that the race would be a cakewalk for the Democrat will be an absence of absentee ballot fraud, the preferred method of putting an illegal thumb on the scale in a close race. Applications for absentee ballots had to be submitted by last Friday, providing little opportunity for those with ill intent to organize such an effort once they realized the race had tightened up.

Edgar Martinez is 22 years old, and 14 months ago he voted in his first and so far only election, and he cast his ballot for Obama. I remember then, when Obama was running, that was all we talked about, my friends, my family. We were excited, he said. I havent heard anybody I know talking about this election.

All my friends voted for Obama. A lot of them were like me. It was the first time we voted. Even older people in my family, it was the first time they voted. Everybody thought things would get better. But they havent. I know a lot of people who have lost their houses this year. Its sad. All my friends are saying Obama promised a lot but hes doing nothing. I dont know if thats true. But thats what my friends are saying.