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post #121 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:25pm
So the colors mean nothing other then the fact that Apple will be showing the tablet, and all that it can do.

- Show off the up-date to Aperture
- Show off Apple's version of PS (or are they buying Adobe?)
- Show off all of the software they own, and how much more "Colorful" it is on the "Tablet" or is it "aBlet"
- Show how the new Quicktime is interactive, and how easy and cool it is working with it, on the new ablet.

It will have stand as an option, so you can do a "Keynote Presentation" and then lean it up for others to watch.

Now what can you do on, with this, that you can't do with a laptop, or will be boil down to the price?

So let's start guessing what you can't do with the iPhone, iPod's, iMac's, Laptops and that's what you can do with the ablet.

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post #122 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:26pm
I told my kids "I'm not quite sure what it is, but I don't know how I've managed to live so long without one."
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post #123 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:26pm
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The color palette is classic ROY G BIV

Sure, but there's a lot of possible shades within that spectrum, and these (Nano and announcement) are an exact match.
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post #124 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:27pm
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Sure you can, at least for DVDs.

There are utilities (e.g., MacTheRipper) for stripping out the copy protection from commercial DVDs (you will have to do your own research about the legality of this in your area). There are other utilities (e.g. Handbrake) that will transcode the content for use in various devices like the iPhone.

Just Google "rip DVD Mac" or "rip DVD Windows".

actually, i do know about that stuff. And i've heard they are all just not made for the casual PC/MAC user in mind and it's kind of a pain. Apple and the movie/tv industries just need to suck it up and allow us to rip movies just like CD's. without 3rd part crap programs.
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post #125 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:28pm
What about an optional paintbrush stylus to use with new paint software..

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post #126 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:29pm
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No, I am just commenting on the form of art used in the invitation. And, well Jackson Pollock is the one who revolutionized art with this particular style.

It was a joke. I know about Jackson Pollock.

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Apple is normally very careful of the images they use and their inference.

I think the artistic graphics signal that the device s designed to be used for more than just consumption of digital data. What better means are there for creation of extemporaneous drawings, paintings and sketches?

I think it works perfectly as a Rorschach Test. Exhibits A and B above are offered in evidence.
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post #127 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:29pm
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I told my kids "I'm not quite sure what it is, but I don't know how I've managed to live so long without one."

lol precisely.
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post #128 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:30pm
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I told my kids "I'm not quite sure what it is, but I don't know how I've managed to live so long without one."

That is the best sum-up of all. Describes my feelings exactly!
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post #129 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:32pm
I bet the "Come see our latest creation" was made on a Apple tablet.
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post #130 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:33pm
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You mean it will be an abstract mess that many will say that my child could have created it?

We'd better hope not!

That reminds me of several years ago when a painting was sent to some big art museum and they gushed over it and commented on the artist's thoughtful use of color, blah blah , and then it turned out to have been "painted" by a five year old child by throwing paint at a piece of paper and was then sent in by her father as a joke.

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I think the tablet will be for painting. Ooh, I hope so.

I will buy two, whatever it is.

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Faux News is suggesting the event will be the tablet, iPhone OS 4 and iLife 2010. Hope they add painting to iLife (or iWork).

 

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post #131 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:35pm
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Sorry, but this is the second time you've said this about Pollock and it's absolute nonsense.

Jackson Pollock is not very well thought of in most art circles anymore and was essentially a one trick pony exposed even in his own lifetime as a bit of a deceptive hack. The kind of "childlike simplicity" you see in this invitation it *not* actually "the most difficult thing to achieve" either.

To say that Jackson Pollock "revolutionised" anything (let alone all art), with his works is a bad joke. Some people still like his paintings, but even they would not argue that he was the "revolutionary" figure you are making him out to be. He's a minor artist at best.

OT, and sorry, but this is completely false. Pollock's reputation is absolutley secure in the history of American art, whatever you might personally think of his style, Abstract Expressionism in general, the biases of art criticism, curatorial pretensions, or the nature of how art history is written.

There was a huge career retrospective mounted at the MOMA and the Tate just about ten years ago, and let me assure you it was not done to bury the man or reevaluate his reputation downward. Tastes and styles in painting change, but you can't rewrite history. For American abstract art, and all that represented in the history of art, Pollock was a titan.
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post #132 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:35pm


Still my favorite from 2007. Just substitute the words iPhone with name of new product

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post #133 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:35pm
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That reminds me of several years ago when a painting was sent to some big art museum and they gushed over it and commented on the artist's thoughtful use of color, blah blah , and then it turned out to have been "painted" by a five year old child by throwing paint at a piece of paper and was then sent in by her father as a joke.

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I think the tablet will be for painting. Ooh, I hope so.

I will buy two, whatever it is.

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post #134 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:36pm
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please, mind you words my friend.
if you care to have a conversation: sure, we could exchange ideas. But I have the feeling you might be here for something else ... let me just say: your style is not very well thought of...

I wasn't trying to be mean, obviously English isn't your first language so perhaps you found some meaning in my words that I didn't intend.

That being said, I have 8 years of Art School, I've been a practising Industrial Designer in the past, and I know a lot about Art and Art History.

I can assure you Jackson Pollock was a "lesser" artist, and did not "revolutionise" anything. It's just a fact, no offence intended.

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post #135 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:39pm
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That reminds me of several years ago when a painting was sent to some big art museum and they gushed over it and commented on the artist's thoughtful use of color, blah blah , and then it turned out to have been "painted" by a five year old child by throwing paint at a piece of paper and was then sent in by her father as a joke.

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I think the tablet will be for painting. Ooh, I hope so.

I will buy two, whatever it is.

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Faux News is suggesting the event will be the tablet, iPhone OS 4 and iLife 2010. Hope they add painting to iLife (or iWork).

Goddamnit I refuse to let this thread become a forum for the airing of bone ignorant nonsense about the nature of art in general and modernism particularly.

I realize they don't really teach art history in school anymore, but the old canard about abstract painting being some kind of hoax or conspiracy amongst untalented fake painters, collectors, galleries and various cultural "elites", designed to pull the wool over the eyes of a credulous public all too eager to embrace trends, or something, is incredibly irritating to anyone who has more than a passing familiarity with art, artists, or cultural history.
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post #136 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:40pm
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OT, and sorry, but this is completely false. Pollock's reputation is absolutley secure in the history of American art, whatever you might personally think of his style, Abstract Expressionism in general, the biases of art criticism, curatorial pretensions, or the nature of how art history is written.

There was a huge career retrospective mounted at the MOMA and the Tate just about ten years ago, and let me assure you it was not done to bury the man or reevaluate his reputation downward. Tastes and styles in painting change, but you can't rewrite history. For American abstract art, and all that represented in the history of art, Pollock was a titan.

I respect almost everything you write on this forum but this is just wrong. He was not a "titan" except perhaps in the USA, but I'm already sick of arguing about it with the other guy who thinks he was a saint. There was a lot more to abstract expressionism than Pollock.

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post #137 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:40pm
could it be the iphone in several colors as it's been said? it may be too literal
it could also be the print industry being revolutionized, that is more possible to me
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post #138 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:40pm
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What about an optional paintbrush stylus to use with new paint software..

:o

As a Wacom tablet user now, I'd be really happy to have a stylus. Wacom's newest has a little loop to hold the stylus when carrying.

The tablet could also double as a standard tablet for a larger computer... but might be too thick.

 

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post #139 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:41pm
... is the waiting! It feels like Christmas!
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post #140 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:41pm
Yeah, looks like Gazoobee woke up on the wrong side of Abstract Expressionism this morning...

I would have to say that linking Pollock to the art used by Apple for this promo is a compliment that works both ways -- well done!

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please, mind you words my friend.
if you care to have a conversation: sure, we could exchange ideas. But I have the feeling you might be here for something else ... let me just say: your style is not very well thought of...

Rather off-topic, but as I certainly admire and respect Pollock's various styles, I would indeed have to agree that his work (and that of many of his contemporaries, including Rothko, Hofmann, Guston, the de Koonings, Rauschenberg, etc. -- even Robert De Niro's father!!!) was revolutionary, and the reactionary backlash in some "art circles" (opinions chasing opinions, after all) continues to this day. The physical textures of his paintings are amazing. Despite the superficial critiques, his art was about the "purity" of the form and has to be "experienced" to be appreciated. (Especially as the act of creation, for him, was the point of the experience.)
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post #141 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:42pm
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I respect almost everything you write on this forum but this is just wrong. He was not a "titan" except perhaps in the USA, but I'm already sick of arguing about it with the other guy who thinks he was a saint. There was a lot more to abstract expressionism than Pollock.

Of course there was a lot more to AE than just Pollock, but his critical reputation is secure. I have no idea where you're getting the idea that he's been declared an untalented hack, at some point. There has always been a certain school of thought that his canvases were just mindless doodling, but that thought has never been anywhere near the critical mainstream.
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post #142 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:45pm
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I respect almost everything you write on this forum but this is just wrong. He was not a "titan" except perhaps in the USA, but I'm already sick of arguing about it with the other guy who thinks he was a saint. There was a lot more to abstract expressionism than Pollock.


To each his own. I just hope the new Apple device will cost considerably less than a Pollock original. Besides isn't what someone is willing to pay a definition of its value. Titan, saint, bohemian, whatever, his work does cost a bit of coin. I hope your art is as valuable someday.

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post #143 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:51pm
Hi

There might be more to the invitation ...
iTunes is based on standard format acc and making that also the de-factor standard with the success of the iPod. And it pushed the other formats away.

Today with online media we have a similar situation with flash and online book formats. Apple can with html 5 and canvas change it with another hardware hit.

http://stairwellblog.com/2009/03/is-...-end-of-flash/

It will make the quality of the browser very important. Microsoft will again be in a poor situation with IE and so many different strategies.

I still have these points as the important tech changes to look for on the 27th

1. iPhone apps on mac os x instead of widgets
2. HTML 5 and canvas for online publications. Super tools for the content creators
3. The iTablet working as an interactive touch pad when connected to a Mac.
4. Mac OS X iWork and iLife apps working on the iTable in fullscreen only mode. One app running at a time.
5. iTable support for iPhone apps.

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post #144 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:51pm
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I wasn't trying to be mean, obviously English isn't your first language so perhaps you found some meaning in my words that I didn't intend.

That being said, I have 8 years of Art School, I've been a practising Industrial Designer in the past, and I know a lot about Art and Art History.

I can assure you Jackson Pollock was a "lesser" artist, and did not "revolutionise" anything. It's just a fact, no offence intended.

my english is fine - thanks! And so is my logic: this conversation is about the invitation, not about what one might think about pollock. My comments are free from judgement of his art. Or, at the very least, they try to be. You spend a lot of words here wanting to trash this very important artist. Fine - I agree with you that any artists influence is always up to debate - but please somehow make your remarks relevant to our conversation about the invitation. Thanks.
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post #145 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:56pm
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Running out the door, so no time to read the comments, but could it possibly be Apple saying that other tablet manufacturers have basically just been throwing paint on the wall, hoping it will stick, while the very clear Apple logo in the corner shows that Apple has a very clear vision of what a tablet really needs to be?

That is my exact thought! Bravo Dr. Watson!!!
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post #146 of 300
1/18/10 at 12:57pm
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my english is fine - thanks! And so is my logic: this conversation is about the invitation, not about what one might think about pollock. My comments are free from judgement of his art. Or, at the very least, they try to be. You spend a lot of words here wanting to trash this very important artist. Fine - I agree with you that any artists influence is always up to debate - but please somehow make your remarks relevant to our conversation about the invitation. Thanks.

okay, I'll stop. But you can't just rewrite the thread, anyone can look up above and see that your English is halting at best, and that you started the whole thing by going on in two separate posts about what a bloody fantastic genius Pollock was.

You drove the thread off course. I just felt compelled to join in when I couldn't stand you praising him to the heavens.

Back on topic, ... The biggest thing I hope for the tablet is that it will be a device one can successfully use to draw on, so for me the style of this invitation is most promising in that regard. Here's hoping it's a big success.

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post #147 of 300
1/18/10 at 1:10pm
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What are we to make of the graphics?

Make only this conclusion: It has a colored screen.

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post #148 of 300
1/18/10 at 1:13pm
No tablet

Larger iPod Touch and iPhone with color backing, more storage, optional stylus.

Updated Mac's with newer processors.
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post #149 of 300
1/18/10 at 1:13pm
iPaintballgun

jobs will announce a multicolour paintball gun and start giving anyone who disagrees some really nasty welts with up close shots...

it will be lighter, shoot faster, and be insanely fun!
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post #150 of 300
1/18/10 at 1:14pm
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LOL! Where are the naysayers now? They're extinct I bet hahaha!

No, it's that as of late they never existed in the first place, anymore

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1/18/10 at 1:16pm
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Emerging from and replacing the confusion of multiple [paint splatters], Apple stands on the solid background of [a calming color], shining with a simple, familiar white purity which cuts through ALL the clutter.

It is a very powerful and evocative image. Apple must have just about the best PR firm in the world.

You have said that twice now. No, it's that they aren't giving much away and their products are in high demand.

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1/18/10 at 1:17pm
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did mactripper (teckstud) take the day off?

I don't get it. When he's here you're giving out, and when he's not you're asking where he's gone.

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1/18/10 at 1:18pm
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Really the invitation in no way implies a tablet.

Except for the tablet-shaped outline that it.

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1/18/10 at 1:19pm
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No tablet

Larger iPod Touch and iPhone with color backing, more storage, optional stylus.

Updated Mac's with newer processors.

Teckstud is that you? Going for the long odds huh? Sorry man but it's going to be more than a large ipod Touch.
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1/18/10 at 1:20pm
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Heh. I guess it is a Rorschach Test, in that we're all seeing what we want to see.

Hey, maybe that's it-- the tablet can be anything you want it to be.

Not everything.

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1/18/10 at 1:22pm
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To each his own. I just hope the new Apple device will cost considerably less than a Pollock original. Besides isn't what someone is willing to pay a definition of its value. Titan, saint, bohemian, whatever, his work does cost a bit of coin. I hope your art is as valuable someday.

Ah, there you go -- clearly Apple's message is, if you can afford a Jackson Pollack you can afford Apple's new iDevice.

Now that I look at it again after reading all these posts, I'm seeing a red jackass licking a green lollypop. Funny how the powers of suggestion work.
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1/18/10 at 1:23pm
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Apple does not stream video of their live events.

Here, I'll fix that for you.

Sadly, Apple does not stream video of their live events.

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1/18/10 at 1:23pm
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No, it's that as of late they never existed in the first place, anymore

So as the newer product rumors emerge in the near future, and the inevitable naysayers start chirping away, you can take comfort in the fact that history will quickly blot them out of existence.

So go ahead everyone and continue to explore the possibilities!

I want this decade to produce products with flexible displays and.....yes I'll say it.....HOLOGRAPHIC DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY!! Oh, and consumer level ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. The real kind that is self guiding and self programmable!

So come on naysayers.....BRING IT!!!!!!
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1/18/10 at 1:24pm
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okay, I'll stop. But you can't just rewrite the thread, anyone can look up above and see that your English is halting at best, and that you started the whole thing by going on in two separate posts about what a bloody fantastic genius Pollock was.

You drove the thread off course. I just felt compelled to join in when I couldn't stand you praising him to the heavens.

Back on topic, ... The biggest thing I hope for the tablet is that it will be a device one can successfully use to draw on, so for me the style of this invitation is most promising in that regard. Here's hoping it's a big success.

Thanks. I have now learned that is best not to comment on you comments. Don't forget to enjoy your free time!
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1/18/10 at 1:24pm
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No tablet

Yeah, you're going to have to wait until the 27th for that.

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