Originally Posted by razorpit
I think I'm center right, as I believe the country is, and I think that's the angle Fox reports the news from. I think commentator programs such as Beck and O'Reilly follows suit, however they are such a shock to some because it shakes their beliefs in how the world works. Up until this point there was no one on air with this point of view.
I hear again and again that Fox is "bad because they get great ratings by catering to four emotional/intellectual/spiritual frailties that humans indulge in" but offer nothing else to back it up. Do you consider it fear reporting because they provide additional information no other networks provide? Why is it a bad thing to show the Clower and Pivens strategy or Saul Alinsky tactics and compare that to events that are happening now? Is it "fear" reporting? You might label it that and by the definition of the word fear I might agree, I do get more fearful the more I learn. I think these are more of a history lesson than anything else.
The one thing that strikes me is no other newsgroup (or government agency) can discredit the reporting. The response to a story is usually nothing more than name calling. They're right right-wing, they're this, or they're that. To those that cry this I say prove it. Fox runs hundreds of news stories every day. Show where the facts in the NEWS STORIES are indeed wrong. When Fox starts having a history of misreporting facts half as bad as MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, I'll agree with the complaints of Fox.
To answer your question about Beck, that's a silly question why wouldn't someone watch him with black or gays? I have in the past, and know of several blacks especially, that love him.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
But here is what I think. The country is not center-right, it is center-center - by definition. It is "center-right" when it comes to low taxes, gun ownership, and national defense, even though that is mostly marketing since there are more ex-military in congress who are Democrats, than Republicans. But the country is center-left when it comes to the environment, progressive tax structures, social security and distrust of banks and big business. Both sides are equally distrustful of government - just different parts of the government. And the country is pretty split down the middle when it comes to the hot button issues like abortion, immigration and gay marriage.
The Republican apologists at every opportunity on TV will always say that they country is center-right. It is a talking point, like saying Democrats are weak on defense or Republicans are in the pocket of big business. Both are strong on defense and both are in the pocket of big business - at least at the big party organizational level.
As for FOX News and the use of fear/anger/ignorance/arrogance in reporting, I have plenty of facts to back that up, but I need to stop making such huge posts on this thread. But here is what I mean:
1. The now out of date, but still relevant 2007 Pew study that surveyed Americans on basic knowledge which showed FOX News watchers near the bottom.http://people-press.org/report/319/p...on-revolutions
2. As I said, I like that FOX is there to report things other news organizations do not report. I watch FOX News occasionally for that very reason. But PBS and C-SPAN and MSNBC also do that. And I also watch PBS and C-Span for those same reasons. The question is, do you? Does the average FOX News watcher watch PBS?
3. It is "arrogance" reporting when FOX wraps itself in the American flag every chance it gets.
4. It is biased reporting when news shows, not just Hannity and Beck, always have 3 or 4 conservatives on a panel with 1 or 2 liberals - and always the "liberals" are actually centrists like Mara Liason and Juan Williams or they are liberals that no one has ever heard of.
5. It is "ignorance" reporting ... well just watch FOX and Friends for 5 minutes ... you get the idea. Also Beck spends so much time deriding intellectuals and people with higher education, it makes you wonder what he is afraid of.
6. It is "fear" reporting when a Nigerian kid with explosives in his underwear is reported as Obama's "problems with national security", while the shoe bomber was never a problem with Bush's national security.
7. It is "anger" reporting when tea parties are supported and promoted by FOX News as if they were happening on every street corner and how many times was Obama's birth certificate questioned.
As for examples of misreporting ... wow, just Google some of it starting with the uncritical reporting of Bush's "evidence" for Saddam's WMD's. You might not like Olbermann on MSNBC, but he and Rachel Maddhow do take the time to show mistakes on FOX almost every night. I watch FOX for the same reason - to find errors in MSNBC's reporting. You just have to be willing to watch people you don't agree with, show errors with the people you do agree with and it works both ways.
None of this will change your mind of course, but I just want you to know that there are real, objective reasons why people see an irritating and dangerous bias in FOX News political reporting (not other reporting). You have to be a real news geek and watch a lot of different broadcasts to see it however and you might not have the time for it, like I have had.