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Reports about a forthcoming update to the iPhone OS continue to grow, with a new batch of rumors claiming the iPhone will gain "new ways" of multitasking and syncing; and two potential takes on the name of the forthcoming tablet have been presented.

There remains ongoing chatter that the assets acquired in last summer's purchase of Google Maps competitor Placebase could play a part in the new mobile operating system. Currently, Apple relies on Google's Maps service for its iPhone application.

In November it was revealed that Apple was seeking a full-time employee to take the Maps program "to the next level." With rumors that iPhone OS 4.0 could be a part of Apple's Jan. 27 event, it is possible a new Maps application could be a part of those plans.

In addition, Boy Genius Report chimed in Tuesday with alleged new iPhone OS 4.0 info from what they called a "trusty Apple connect." The source said Apple will introduce "a few new ways" to run applications in the background, and a brand new syncing ability for contacts and calendars will be introduced.

It also stated, somewhat cryptically, "there will be multi-touch gestures OS-wide," and user interface and graphical changes aim to make the mobile operating system easier and more efficient to use. The tipster said the update would be made available only for the iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS, leaving first-generation handset owners supposedly out of luck.

While Boy Genius Report has a respectable track record in forecasting iPhone-related announcements tied to its AT&T sources, its predictions pertaining to Apple have often fallen off the mark. Last year the site incorrectly indicated iTunes 9 would add Blu-ray support and said Apple would create a social media consolidation application, both times citing a "reliable" source.

Another claim from the Web site came in the form of a headline that suggested Apple could call its tablet the iTablet, though no mention of that information was included in the text of the article. Conflicting with that report, however, was a new trademark filing for the name "iPad."

Last week, the IPAD name was registered in New Zealand, Australia and Trinidad and Tobago by a company called IP Application Development. Apple was also found to be behind the company Slate Computing in trademarking the name "iSlate." Given the timing, MacRumors said they believe Apple is behind the IPAD trademark.

Earlier this month, another report said some developers had access to a software development kit of a iPhone OS 4.0 beta. It was said that the new SDK includes a new "simulator" for Apple's forthcoming touchscreen 10-inch tablet that aims to make it easy for developers to adapt to different screen resolutions.

In addition, in December, some developers were allegedly asked to prepare full-screen demos of their iPhone software for a public unveiling in late January.
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iTablet sounds clunky, iPad or Slate ( not iSlate, isolate ) both sound better to me.


... and doesn't someone in Star Wars try to 'iSlate that power coupling' or something?
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No free Update for original iPhone, I guess. Free updates for any model is valid for the next two years.
May be original iphone buyers had to pay for the update like ipod touch users used to pay.
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I hope this is correct about OS 4.0 being available for the iPhone 3G. I've been a little concerned, good support if true. Memory and processor are same as the 2 1/2 year old original iPhone, so getting a little old in mobile phone terms!
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iPad sounds worse than iTablet, if anything. Hopefully they do better than either of those.

Also, I recall that 'multi-tasking' was the big rumor for OS 3.0. I get this feeling it won't happen this time either. Not for the phone.

New syncing is overdue, if it is indeed the update that makes the phone/tablet less an iPod-style peripheral and more a proper peer.

I also wonder if OS 4.0 will support multiple resolutions for the iPhone. It seems less and less likely that Apple can keep on going at 480x320 for very long. Maybe this year. Certainly not next.
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Originally Posted by striker_kk View Post

No free Update for original iPhone, I guess. Free updates for any model is valid for the next two years.
May be original iphone buyers had to pay for the update like ipod touch users used to pay.

I actually believe it would be a hardware issue, not just that they don't want to do it or charge for it.

either way can't wait, maybe they'll show a HP Slate!
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iTablet sounds clunky, iPad or Slate ( not iSlate, isolate ) both sound better to me.

They might bring back the name iBook. That ties in with the e-reader part, at least. Ah well, it's just a name... it will probably be something no one has suggested.
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They might bring back the name iBook. That ties in with the e-reader part, at least. Ah well, it's just a name... it will probably be something no one has suggested.

Newton?!
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They might bring back the name iBook. That ties in with the e-reader part, at least. Ah well, it's just a name... it will probably be something no one has suggested.

I doubt they'll call it iBook. When an iBook was a computer it was okay, but I think as a tablet it would limit people's thinking into a "it's just an electronic book" dead-end.
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Yesterday, someone on this forum (or elsewhere perhaps) noticed that the "latest" in the Apple Event invitation "Come see our latest creation" is a near anagram for "slate". While this sounds like a possible name, I can't help but wonder if they might bring back "iBook". The name has so many more associations than "(i)Slate" or "(i)Tablet": these two only bring to mind something flat you can write on at best, whereas "iBook" brings to mind something you open up and interact with. It's something that talks to you and the new tablet/slate would be much more of a "book" in terms of how you deal with it than the old iBook, plus its rumoured dimensions are much closer to those of an average book and you would actually hold it in your hand like a book. Like a book, the interface is something you move through with your fingers: you go where your fingers want and it yields its text and pictures where you take it; you can also write and doodle in it with your fingers...

I'm guessing "iBook" is back. But who knows, they may have hit upon another name with even better associations. Who knows?
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Also, I recall that 'multi-tasking' was the big rumor for OS 3.0. I get this feeling it won't happen this time either. Not for the phone.

If it doesn't, it will be an outright embarrassment. There is no excuse for the inability to run multiple third party apps.
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I hope this is correct about OS 4.0 being available for the iPhone 3G. I've been a little concerned, good support if true. Memory and processor are same as the 2 1/2 year old original iPhone, so getting a little old in mobile phone terms!


Engadget is saying it will be available for the 3G and 3GS. Kinda sucky for first gen owners, like you said it uses the same processor and RAM so there is no reason why they cannot get it.
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iTablet sounds clunky, iPad or Slate ( not iSlate, isolate ) both sound better to me.

i-Pad it is.... thats def a better name, i must concur

the i-Tablet sounds like a big Pill to swallow and iSlate is like u said earlier 'Isolate"

so come APple give us a better named device
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I'd like to see how they implement some of these features. Would they do something similar like what WebOS does? Would it be like expose? I've been using backgrounder recently and noticed that I don't really have a major need for background apps. However I can definately see the need if someone is using Pandora or something similar.
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iTablet sounds clunky, iPad or Slate ( not iSlate, isolate ) both sound better to me.

iPad? What is it, a tampon?
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It won't be "i" anything nor will it be anything "slate", "tablet" or "pad".
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If it doesn't, it will be an outright embarrassment. There is no excuse for the inability to run multiple third party apps.

I believe this is a good time for Apple to add multitasking to the iPhone since Push Notification is widely used. This way only non IM apps, such as internet radios apps, need to run in the background.
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Could we finally have WiFi syncing for the iPhone? I would really love to be rid of the USB cable for anything but charging. The AppleTV syncs large amounts of content over WiFi without issue, why can't the iPhone do the same thing?

Just yesterday I downloaded a new audiobook just to be disappointed when I got into the car because I had forgot to connect my iPhone to the digital ball and chain!
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Engadget is saying it will be available for the 3G and 3GS. Kinda sucky for first gen owners, like you said it uses the same processor and RAM so there is no reason why they cannot get it.

I'm using a 1st gen iPhone, right now we don't get MMS, which makes no sense seeing as we can do pretty much everything else the 3G can. Even so, if you have a first gen iPhone by this summer, you'll have had it 3 years. That's a long time for a phone, if Apple wants to cut off OS updates for it, fine by me, I'm ready to upgrade.
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Apple has said they would support the iPhone with free upgrades for two years.

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No free Update for original iPhone, I guess. Free updates for any model is valid for the next two years.
May be original iphone buyers had to pay for the update like ipod touch users used to pay.
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Embarrassment is pretty extreme, most people have no expectation that their phone should mulit-task. There is a reason. You may or may not accept it, but it does exist.

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If it doesn't, it will be an outright embarrassment. There is no excuse for the inability to run multiple third party apps.
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If iPhone OS 4.0 is leaving early adopters, i.e. 1st Gen. iPhone 2.5G users in the dust, that will look bad on Apple. Instead introduce a subset of features on earlier devices, as the iPhone 3G is NOT much different in HW than the original!!
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Yesterday, someone on this forum (or elsewhere perhaps) noticed that the "latest" in the Apple Event invitation "Come see our latest creation" is a near anagram for "slate". ...

I think that post was a little silly though. "Close" only counts in horseshoes.

There is no such thing as a "near" anagram and if Apple was going to do something so tricky, they would just use, you know, an actual anagram.
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iPad? What is it, a tampon?

I think iPad is not so bad of a name.

Despite idiotic remarks like yours, the menstrual reference is minor, only really applies in the USA and will be quickly forgotten if they chose that name. I mean, obviously you don't even know the difference between a pad or a tampon and most of those that have a a problem with the name would be similarly uninformed or juvenile.

All that being said, it does seem like they are leaning towards using the "Slate" word in one incarnation or another.

If I had to go out on a limb I would guess Apple Slate or Apple Tablet would be the name. Apple is all about being simple and clear, even if it's boring.
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There's no way it's going to be called iTablet or iSlate because it doesn't sound right. As a matter of fact, I say it's not going to be named iAnything.
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Yesterday, someone on this forum (or elsewhere perhaps) noticed that the "latest" in the Apple Event invitation "Come see our latest creation" is a near anagram for "slate". While this sounds like a possible name, I can't help but wonder if they might bring back "iBook". The name has so many more associations than "(i)Slate" or "(i)Tablet": these two only bring to mind something flat you can write on at best, whereas "iBook" brings to mind something you open up and interact with. It's something that talks to you and the new tablet/slate would be much more of a "book" in terms of how you deal with it than the old iBook, plus its rumoured dimensions are much closer to those of an average book and you would actually hold it in your hand like a book. Like a book, the interface is something you move through with your fingers: you go where your fingers want and it yields its text and pictures where you take it; you can also write and doodle in it with your fingers...

I'm guessing "iBook" is back. But who knows, they may have hit upon another name with even better associations. Who knows?

For some reason, this message seems very.....carefully culled. Such a paragraph seems like from a higher knowledge than the everyday man. I really appreciate it and think that this is by far the most probably name for the tablet.
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post #28 of 174
How about this as a name for the tablet:

nTouch

This works on several levels.

1. It starts with a lower case prefix making it appear "hip" which it will be anyway.

2. The letter "N" will be a subtle referance to the Newton. The fact that the "N" is lower case will signify Steve's opinion of the Newton- especially in comparison with what's to come.

3. The second syllable is "Touch" which directly referes to the touch screen. The fact that the "T" is capitalized will signify that this is the device with which important things will start happening (in comparison with what came before it- see no. 2)

4. The name of the device is pronounced "in touch." This works on a couple levels just by itself. Access to the internet will doubtlessly enable this device to be a communications device allowing you to stay in touch with your friends. But it's also a book reading device signifying that it will help you stay in touch with what is going on in the world.

And there you have it.

Apple's latest creation.

nTouch

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Apple is all about being simple and clear, even if it's boring.

I would like something more academic like:

Folio
Opus
Quarto

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how about it let you turn off the stupid spotlight page.

beyond that i hope they've worked on WAY better memory management if they're going to implement multitasking. The 3g's are bad enough as is with memory with only one app open (and safari never quiting) I'm glad there are apps to keep memory flowing for jailbroken phones.
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If iPhone OS 4.0 is leaving early adopters, i.e. 1st Gen. iPhone 2.5G users in the dust, that will look bad on Apple. Instead introduce a subset of features on earlier devices, as the iPhone 3G is NOT much different in HW than the original!!

I don't see how it does. 2G owners are now out of contract and out of Applecare warranty. I'm beginning to believe that there is more of a difference than just processor speed between the 2G and 3G (or the processor difference is significant). Many new games on the App Store are leaving out 2G compatibility.
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Embarrassment is pretty extreme, most people have no expectation that their phone should mulit-task. There is a reason. You may or may not accept it, but it does exist.

It would've been extreme if I said it last year when iPhone 3.0 was on the horizon. At the time I personally expected it but knew Apple could wait another year.

But if iPhone 4.0 doesn't multi-task third party apps in 2010? 'Embarrassment' won't be extreme at all. I say whatever word you'd like to substitute will be an understatement.
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iTablet sounds clunky, iPad or Slate ( not iSlate, isolate ) both sound better to me.
iPad? What is it, a tampon?

no, an alternative to a tampon...
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I doubt they'll call it iBook. When an iBook was a computer it was okay, but I think as a tablet it would limit people's thinking into a "it's just an electronic book" dead-end.

Like "iPhone". It's just an electronic phone: nahhh.... I'll stay with my ROKR and PEBL clxn, thank you... Or "iPod". Sounds like a cross between an iMac and something an alien is going to hatch out of. Nahhh... I'll stay with my uhhh umm, what were the names of those MP3 players again? (By the way, THAT's a name you can relate to: MP3 player, right?)

The reason I wouldn't agree with your take on "just an electronic book" is that this product, even before its introduction, comes associated with all the magic Apple has been able to bring to handheld electronics in the past decade. There are already so many expectations, there is already so much buzz about this all over the media (not just Apple- or computer-related forums) that people already expect that it will go way beyond what any other similar device has yet been able to give its users.

And when Steve leaves the stage nay, when he's barely halfway through his presentation it will be impossible for anyone to ever think "it's just an electronic book".

A name like "iBook" repeats the kind of psychology Apple/Steve has been using very consistently for the past decade and more to make the company's products appealing: make buyers/users subliminally associate the product with something else they are already familiar/comfortable with, but no matter what, don't just present it as nothing more than some new piece of electronic gadgetry. This strategy in both names, design and salesmanship comes up again and again. Examples:

To start, doing away with gobbledygook combos of digits and letters in product names,

iMac: (subliminally) designed to resemble a small cuddly animal. Coloured upper side, white "underbelly" like very many dogs, cats and other small animals. Angled to look like it's sitting there, "looking up at you". People identified with this at a gut, emotional level.

iPod: "Size of a deck of cards". Steve holds it up in his hand to the audience so they can identify at a gut, emotional level.

iPod shuffle: "Size of a pack of gum". Steve holds it up in his hand to the audience so they can identify at a gut, emotional level.

iPod nano: the invitation shows a jeans key pocket.

iPod Touch: what's more intimate, personal and sensual than "Touch". It immediately appeals at a gut, emotional level.

First flat-screen (Luxo Jr.) iMac: advertising turns it into a miniature sentient creature, showing it moving its "head" around (like Luxo Jr.) on its "neck", "looking" at a window-shopper, sticking its "tongue"/CD tray in and out. Advertising designed to appeal at a gut, emotional level.

First PowerBook (even though before Steve returned to his Ithaca): uses "book" as part of the name to compare subliminally to something we are already familiar with and appeal at a gut, emotional level.

I think the same goes for bringing back "iBook". Picture Steve doing his schtick on stage: "...and it's just the same size as a pocketbook!", lifting it up in his hand to show to the audience. Get to them at a gut, emotional level. The name would stick and stand for so much more that just "e-reader" in people's minds. It wouldn't work the same way for a name like "(i)Slate" or "(i)Tablet".

Hmmm... maybe another possiblility is "iBook Touch"?
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Can you describe what exactly will have changed that would make it an embarrassment in 2010?

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It would've been extreme if I said it last year when iPhone 3.0 was on the horizon. At the time I personally expected it but knew Apple could wait another year.

But if iPhone 4.0 doesn't multi-task third party apps in 2010? 'Embarrassment' won't be extreme at all. I say whatever word you'd like to substitute will be an understatement.
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iTablet sounds clunky, iPad or Slate ( not iSlate, isolate ) both sound better to me.
iPad? What is it, a tampon?

no, an alternative to a tampon...

iPod
iPhone
iPad

it does sound like a reasonable grouping of product names.
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Could we finally have WiFi syncing for the iPhone? I would really love to be rid of the USB cable for anything but charging. The AppleTV syncs large amounts of content over WiFi without issue, why can't the iPhone do the same thing?

Just yesterday I downloaded a new audiobook just to be disappointed when I got into the car because I had forgot to connect my iPhone to the digital ball and chain!

Because if they did that it would eliminate a big reason for people to buy Mobile ME (Millennium Edition). The ironic thing is OS X allows wireless sync of competing smartphones via iSync.
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iPad is not such a bad name.
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If iPhone OS4 could run on older phones, it would.

It won't be called iPad.
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