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post #41 of 110
1/19/10 at 2:22pm
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Originally Posted by Marvin View Post

This device would fail very badly at $999. It's a non-essential purchase. It needs to be priced like a semi-impulse-buy item. Here is a Lenovo 10" capacitive tablet with Atom, 160GB HDD, 1GB RAM, 802.11n for $549:

http://www.logicbuy.com/deals/lenovo...let/18177.aspx

We're already near double the price of a netbook at this point.

If Apple go with ARM, they save money, especially if there's common inventory with the mobiles. They will get good deals on displays due to the orders they will place.

The 64GB ipod touch is $399. Take the same kind of internals and use it with the display from the Lenovo and you get $499-599 (£349-399). Same price as an unsubsidized iphone and the original price of the modern consoles.


I think $599 is too low when compared to the Touch. If you add the larger battery, larger display, faster components (processor and graphics) I think $200 more is not enough. I think it will be at least $799. I would like to be wrong.

Place a 64 GB touch in a store at $399 and next to it a 10 inch iSlate at $599. I think people will look at the touch as overpriced.
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post #42 of 110
1/19/10 at 2:33pm
It's precisely because a 10-inch tablet would have to cost around $1,000 that it seems unlikely Apple would go there.

I still think the logical next move for Apple would be to bring out a larger version of the Touch and not market it as anything other than that. Around $500 for a 7-inch Touch would work, I think. But if you try to bring a $1,000 product to market at this time you're going to wind up with a sales flop.
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post #43 of 110
1/19/10 at 2:48pm
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Originally Posted by Marvin View Post

This device would fail very badly at $999. It's a non-essential purchase. It needs to be priced like a semi-impulse-buy item. Here is a Lenovo 10" capacitive tablet with Atom, 160GB HDD, 1GB RAM, 802.11n for $549:

http://www.logicbuy.com/deals/lenovo...let/18177.aspx

We're already near double the price of a netbook at this point.

If Apple go with ARM, they save money, especially if there's common inventory with the mobiles. They will get good deals on displays due to the orders they will place.

The 64GB ipod touch is $399. Take the same kind of internals and use it with the display from the Lenovo and you get $499-599 (£349-399). Same price as an unsubsidized iphone and the original price of the modern consoles.


That $549 Lenovo is a glorified Netbook. And I really do not want to run a full blown desktop OS on a device like this.
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post #44 of 110
1/19/10 at 2:56pm
Read it here:

64gb $599
128gb $799

Those are the tablet models and price. Same 10.1" screen size. No HW differences besides storage.
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post #45 of 110
1/19/10 at 2:58pm
I would bet the iPhone/iPod Touch App Store will come to the iPad in similar form, and you will see an App Store for Mac desktop computers as well. In the meantime, there is a Mac App Store from a 3rd Party called Bodega:
http://appbodega.com/
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post #46 of 110
1/19/10 at 3:04pm
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Originally Posted by Lenberg View Post

Shaw Wu has the worst record of any analyst in the industry. His predictions are worth betting AGAINST.

I agree with your sentiments but Kathryn Huberty of Morgan Stanley surpassed even Wu as a moron.
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post #47 of 110
1/19/10 at 3:10pm
I'm putting my money away already for whatever Apple is unveiling next week.

I hope they don't rush it out. I'd like them to take their time to get it right.
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post #48 of 110
1/19/10 at 3:19pm
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

While Apple's tablet is still expected to see a formal introduction at a media event next week, issues with battery life and durability could result in a June launch, an analyst said Tuesday.

Assuming this can carry even a trace of credibility....

WHY would Apple even consider announcing any such product six months ahead??

Unless issues did appear at literally the last moment and/or Steve feels it necessary to make the rumor mill STFU, why not wait until the product is, um, ready?

Anyway, with any luck this analysis is vapor, and Steve will open with "Now available at the Apple Store..."
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post #49 of 110
1/19/10 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by iGenius View Post

I agree. The fanbois will be lined up in the predawn hours to get one, price be damned.

The fanbois are not what makes Apple a successful business. It's the spill over into mainstream populations that make them successful.
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post #50 of 110
1/19/10 at 3:34pm
So what happened to?:
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Apple tablet rumored to be 'shockingly' inexpensive

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...expensive.html

I certainly wouldn't call $999 inexpensive, much less shockingly so.

AI seems to be putting up any old dross just to get the traffic stats up at the moment

Aren't we overdue for a leaked photo of the tablet round about now?
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post #51 of 110
1/19/10 at 3:51pm
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Originally Posted by AppleStud View Post

recession was over 4 months ago

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ber...ver-2009-09-15

My mistake. I didn't go by the strict dictionary meaning of the word recession. I was just going by the fact that 10% of the country has no job officially and many believe the unofficial rate is double.

Either way I'm sure there will be many people out there, who don't have jobs, that can't wait to go spend $1000 on this thing. I'm also guessing there will be many from Goldman Sachs ordering this item though.
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post #52 of 110
1/19/10 at 3:51pm
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Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post

So what happened to?:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...expensive.html

I certainly wouldn't call $999 inexpensive, much less shockingly so.

AI seems to be putting up any old dross just to get the traffic stats up at the moment

Aren't we overdue for a leaked photo of the tablet round about now?

AI has gone down the tubes, MacRumors has it all over this place now. And for the leaked photo, yeah it's getting close, maybe by Friday the shaky cell phone camera image form Steve Jobs phone will be exposed.
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post #53 of 110
1/19/10 at 4:14pm
$1000 for an overgrown iPod Touch. No, thanks. $600 and I'd be vaguely interested. At $1k, I want most of the capabilities of a Mac, even if apps run more slowly than on the bottom of the line Macbook.
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post #54 of 110
1/19/10 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by cmf2 View Post

Keep in mind that this thing is going to be $500.

That thing also appears to be black and white .. or um blue and monochrome. Their page says nothing about color display techs and there are no pictures of anything in color.
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post #55 of 110
1/19/10 at 4:55pm
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Originally Posted by AdamIIGS View Post

That thing also appears to be black and white .. or um blue and monochrome. Their page says nothing about color display techs and there are no pictures of anything in color.

you apparently didn't wait for the flash slideshow to commence, plenty of color photos shown.
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post #56 of 110
1/19/10 at 5:20pm
We are running this story tomorrow...thought we would give Apple Insider readers a FirstLook:
http://www.rainydaymagazine.com/RDM2...PatchFirstLook

The NEW device is actually called the iPatch...all this tablet talk is just a red herring.

Sincerely,
RainyDayInterns
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post #57 of 110
1/19/10 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by str1f3 View Post

I was just going by the fact that 10% of the country has no job officially and many believe the unofficial rate is double.

I honestly do not at all mean to sound cruel or uncaring, but they're unlikely to be purchasers of Apple products.
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post #58 of 110
1/19/10 at 5:46pm
If this iPad locks you in and only lets you buy content from Apple vis-a-vis the iTunes store, I would expect a major fail like the AppleTv for the very same reason.
I would sell your stock this week.
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post #59 of 110
1/19/10 at 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by Kolchak View Post

$1000 for an overgrown iPod Touch. No, thanks. $600 and I'd be vaguely interested. At $1k, I want most of the capabilities of a Mac, even if apps run more slowly than on the bottom of the line Macbook.

Agreed. Can you multitask from a Touch like a basic netbook ( besides listening to music)? Can you print from an iPod Touch? Noooooo.
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post #60 of 110
1/19/10 at 5:59pm
Didn't our friend Tekstud predict last summer it would be announced in January and released in June?
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post #61 of 110
1/19/10 at 6:10pm
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Originally Posted by mrkoolaid View Post

Can you print from an iPod Touch? Noooooo.

Yes actually.

DaHarder just got banned. Let's crack open the champagne.

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DaHarder just got banned. Let's crack open the champagne.

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post #62 of 110
1/19/10 at 6:22pm
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

Yes actually.

Really? Where's the print button?
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post #63 of 110
1/19/10 at 6:23pm
i never buy Wu 100%. cause he has a horrid record.

the rumors are that this thing is already in production. full scale production. which wouldn't be happening if they are still testing and coming up with issues.

and apple wouldn't announce something without a firm release, even if in June.

Also, perhaps the reasons it would get a June date have nada to do with the hardware but with certain contracts. contracts that could be up in June. contracts that might prohibit unlocked 3g service to the tablet. it would be easy to release after that date than to deal with post release unlocking.
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post #64 of 110
1/19/10 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post

i never buy Wu 100%. cause he has a horrid record.

the rumors are that this thing is already in production. full scale production. which wouldn't be happening if they are still testing and coming up with issues.

and apple wouldn't announce something without a firm release, even if in June.

Also, perhaps the reasons it would get a June date have nada to do with the hardware but with certain contracts. contracts that could be up in June. contracts that might prohibit unlocked 3g service to the tablet. it would be easy to release after that date than to deal with post release unlocking.

AppleTV was announced in September - released in March.
iPhone announced Jan- released June.
And what exactly is your basis for your comments?
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post #65 of 110
1/19/10 at 6:33pm
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Originally Posted by steviet02 View Post

The fanbois are not what makes Apple a successful business. It's the spill over into mainstream populations that make them successful.

Yes. that comes in phase 2 - where they lower the price on the original while adding a new model.
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post #66 of 110
1/19/10 at 6:44pm
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Originally Posted by mrkoolaid View Post

Didn't our friend Tekstud predict last summer it would be announced in January and released in June?

Yes, but that doesn't matter. He was disloyal.
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post #67 of 110
1/19/10 at 6:52pm
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Originally Posted by Lenberg View Post

Shaw Wu has the worst record of any analyst in the industry. His predictions are worth betting AGAINST.

what else has he gotten wrong? (i never heard of the guy)
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post #68 of 110
1/19/10 at 6:54pm
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Originally Posted by sippincider View Post

Assuming this can carry even a trace of credibility....

WHY would Apple even consider announcing any such product six months ahead??

Unless issues did appear at literally the last moment and/or Steve feels it necessary to make the rumor mill STFU, why not wait until the product is, um, ready?

Anyway, with any luck this analysis is vapor, and Steve will open with "Now available at the Apple Store..."

Maybe, after seeing the competition at CES, they decided that there is no hurry to produce it.
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post #69 of 110
1/19/10 at 6:56pm
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Originally Posted by mrkoolaid View Post

Didn't our friend Tekstud predict last summer it would be announced in January and released in June?

I don't remember. Why don't you just ask yourself?
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post #70 of 110
1/19/10 at 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by dfiler View Post

Isn't that speculation exactly what this forum is for? If not, I'm honestly confused as to what we're all doing here.

I vote, carry on. Continue discussing rumored feature lists and pricing.

You're misunderstanding me. As I say, I have no problem with speculation. What I don't understand is combining opinions about price points with assumptions about functionality in order to render judgement on Apple, based on entirely unsubstantiated rumor.

Saying a slate at $1,000 is a "poor value" or that no one's going to buy "an overgrown iPod Touch" for x amount of money isn't speculation, it's just sort of pointless. It's like saying any tablet from Apple will be a huge flop because the UI will suck, or that you refuse to buy one because the battery life will be too short.

What typically happens is that AI publishes yet another rumor, and some people react as if it were a press release from Apple, complete with indignation and predictions of doom. That just strikes me as silly and overboard.
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post #71 of 110
1/19/10 at 7:04pm
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Originally Posted by iGenius View Post

Yes, but that doesn't matter. He was disloyal.

That's too funny! To whom?
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post #72 of 110
1/19/10 at 7:24pm
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That's too funny! To whom?

Basic norms of coherence.
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post #73 of 110
1/19/10 at 7:51pm
Well, I've done some analysis of all of the rumours and existing data available, and find that 65% of romours will be incorrect, 60% of 'market analysts' will be incorrect and that the product Apple is launching on January 27th is a highly eco friendly version of it's iPhone and iPod ranges featuring a wind-up mechanism.

Magnifying glasses will be free issued to make the screen appear to be between 10 and 11 inches depending on the viewing point of the user.

A new super-eco friendly version of the iPhone OS will also be launched which will limit users to a maxmum of 10 minutes use per day, extending battery life into weeks.

I have talked to someone, who knows someone whose brother is the husband of a suppliers chairmans daughter. He has it on good authority that all Apple products will re-launch over the next 6 months with Bamboo forming the main housings and that the screens will be made of a new material that bio-degrades after a 3 year timespan has elapsed.

Further more, Apple has apparently developed new manufacturing processes which use no energy and requires no manpower to complete the manufacturing process.

Finally, a major analyst has estimated that Apple will sell $6B worth of iPed womens nail extensions with capacitive touch screen working. This follows a series of complaints that it is difficult to operate an iPod Touch and iPhone's with long nails.
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post #74 of 110
1/19/10 at 8:06pm
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Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post

Try telling that to the people still losing their jobs.

Unfortunately a recession isnt defined by job loss.
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post #75 of 110
1/19/10 at 8:08pm
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Originally Posted by addabox View Post

Basic norms of coherence.

Oh Ok- that's make a ton a sense.
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post #76 of 110
1/19/10 at 8:10pm
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Originally Posted by AppleStud View Post

recession was over 4 months ago

"The Recession Is Over" is today's "Mission Accomplished".

The reality on the street speaks for itself, regardless of how the government tries to spin things.

As for the rumored iThing? Again, the timing, pricing, and delay don't make sense. But Steve has surprised us before.
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post #77 of 110
1/19/10 at 8:19pm
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Originally Posted by sippincider View Post

"The Recession Is Over" is today's "Mission Accomplished".

The reality on the street speaks for itself, regardless of how the government tries to spin things.

I think he meant "Healthcare Is Over".
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post #78 of 110
1/19/10 at 8:24pm
$999 is way too high. My prediction: $649 for slower model, $799 for faster model with 3G/4G free. If 3G/4G is not free then I expect a 2 year contract with ATT and something like a $499 price tag for the subsidized version, $649 for unsubsidized.

Prediction: Either way this will be a netbook, ereader, newspaper reader, gaming machine, and mobile movie player (which you can use on long flights much better then an iPhone). The battery life would have to be at least 7 hours. No physical keyboard obviously, and no removable battery. It will have the dual core PI Semi chip inside and run on iPhone OS 4.0. It will have full exchange integration and run a mobile version of iWork, which would be fully compatible with MS Office 2007. It will have a mag safe charger, but also the ipod proprietary jack.

That is all I can think of, so we'll see if any of my predictions will come true on 27th.
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post #79 of 110
1/19/10 at 9:21pm
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

I honestly do not at all mean to sound cruel or uncaring, but they're unlikely to be purchasers of Apple products.

I agree to an extent but virtually everyone has taken a hit in this economy in one form or another. It isn't just those who lost their homes or their jobs. It's also recent graduates and some taking lesser wages. Both Adobe and MS are laying off people left and right as well many other companies in the tech field. It isn't just the poor who are losing their jobs.

To date, under Jobs, this is the first device that Apple has intended to replace nothing in your life. I don't suddenly see Apple being successful in this area of 'tweener devices when it has never been successful. From all rumors, the primary reason for buying this is gadget lust.
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post #80 of 110
1/19/10 at 9:27pm
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Originally Posted by RCO3 View Post

Are you folks trying to tell me that Apple is going to release a touchscreen tablet-style computer? Really?

How the heck did those guys keep this a secret until now?

Thats's Apple for you.
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