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Apple on Tuesday updated its Boot Camp software and issued new drivers and utilities to allow users to run Microsoft's latest operating system, Windows 7. The Mac maker also issued its first security update of 2010, addressing 12 vulnerabilities.

The Boot Camp software was updated to version 3.1 for both 32-bit and 64-bit users of Windows 7. The updates add native support for the Home Premium, Professional and Ultimate versions of Windows 7.

In addition, Boot Camp Software Update 3.1 for Windows addresses issues with the Apple trackpad, turns off the red digital audio port LED on laptop computers when it is not being used, and supports the Apple wireless keyboard and Apple Magic Mouse. The 32-bit version is 380.73MB, while the 64-bit update is 274.58MB. The software requires either Windows XP or Windows Vista SP2 before installing Windows 7.

To further support the Microsoft OS, system-specific drivers are available. Those with the new late 2009 iMac, both 21.5-inch and 27-inch models, can download the iMac Late 2009 Windows 7 Drivers, while iMac and Mac Pro users can use the Graphics Firmware Update 1.0 update for compatibility.

Finally, Apple has also released the Boot Camp Utility for Windows 7 Upgrade, which safely unmounts the read-only Macintosh volume on Microsoft Windows Vista. The utility must be used before upgrading from Vista to Windows 7.

Also Tuesday, the first security updates of 2010 for Snow Leopard and Leopard were released. Security Update 2010-001 is recommended for all users of Mac OS X, and it addresses a number of potentially dangerous security issues.

The updates are available for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (21.90MB), Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Server (248.11MB), and Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Client (159.58MB). They can also be downloaded via Software Update.

The vulnerabilities addressed in the update, according to Apple, include CoreAudio, the Flash Player plug-in, OpenSSL, Image RAW, and Image IO.
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Regrettably, I have to install Windows on my Mac to check for compatibility of the websites I design. This will make using Windows an easier pill to swallow.

In a related topic, does anybody know where 10.6.3 stands? 10.6.2 ruined the speed and stability gains that the original release version of Snow Leopard brought over Leopard.
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Another vulnerability in Flash? Say it ain't so!

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Question, I already have Windows 7 installed on a partition for my iMac. Should I avoid this upgrade until I erase that partition?
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I'm still so confused by why they cut the support on the 2006 models.

I assume they just didn't want to go through the trouble of porting drivers over, but those people (myself included) with these '06 Macs really would have appreciated the effort of doing so.

That's not to say I won't do it - I already have, and everything works just fine - but I don't like "unsupported" things, hacks, etc. Granted, all Boot Camp really does is partition the hard drive - presumably any Intel-compatible OS could be installed on said partition, correct?

I suppose Apple is trying to slowly annoy people into upgrading to newer Macs by cutting support like this. Not a big fan of such malicious product-pushing techniques...
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New member here but not new to bootcamp...

I really find it strange that you need to have Vista or XP installed in order to install Windows 7... I'd say that's a mistake... It doesn't make any sense to use an earlier version of Windows, especially if the DVD you have contains a full installation and not an update.
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Originally Posted by Dambuster View Post

New member here but not new to bootcamp...

I really find it strange that you need to have Vista or XP installed in order to install Windows 7... I'd say that's a mistake... It doesn't make any sense to use an earlier version of Windows, especially if the DVD you have contains a full installation and not an update.

I am wondering the same thing. I have a copy of Windows 7 but not Vista or XP and I'd like to install it. However, I am not able to get the update to Bootcamp through Software Update at present.
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really confused - i already managed to install Win7 on my iMac 27", how do i update the drivers? the instructions only refer to a new install.
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Originally Posted by akf2000 View Post

really confused - i already managed to install Win7 on my iMac 27", how do i update the drivers? the instructions only refer to a new install.

It looks like choosing "Apple Software Update" from your start menu will do the trick. It showed up in Software Update within Win7 Professional (32 bit) for me, at least. Currently downloading the 380.73MB update. I'll let you know if it doesn't work.
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Originally Posted by iPedro View Post

Regrettably, I have to install Windows on my Mac to check for compatibility of the websites I design. This will make using Windows an easier pill to swallow.

I have two software that only run on Windows XP (Vista and Windows 7 still not supported) and I use Parallels with XP. The best part is that I get Windows for free
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What are you meant to do within OS X before installing? Isn't there an update to the OS X software? At present it only says it supports XP and Vista
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Originally Posted by iPedro View Post

Regrettably, I have to install Windows on my Mac to check for compatibility of the websites I design. This will make using Windows an easier pill to swallow.

In a related topic, does anybody know where 10.6.3 stands? 10.6.2 ruined the speed and stability gains that the original release version of Snow Leopard brought over Leopard.

You don't need Bootcamp for that. VMware Fusion, Parallels or VirtualBox works fine and without reboot and it's been supported for a while already.
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If I'm reading this right, there are three updates:

One is a Boot Camp Windows executable (32 bit) and (64 Bit), that you run while booted into Windows 7. That will update the BootCamp configuration and drivers on the Windows side and ensure that your hardware is recognized under Windows 7.

The other update is for the new late model 21.5" and 27" 09 iMac drivers for Windows 7, which will get you past the blinking or blank screen install issues. It is to be used during the Windows 7 install when it prompts for additional drivers.

If you already have Windows 7 installed, or you don't have a late model '09 iMac, then you don't need the Windows 7 drivers, however there does appear to be a firmware update for older iMac's and Mac Pro GPU's.

The Windows executable is an update to Boot Camp and should be installed on the Windows side regardless.

I'm not sure what this update is for as I didn't update from Vista to Windows 7, but apparently you must run this to unmount the OS X partition under Vista before installing Windows 7. Hopefully someone else can chime in as to what you experience upgrading from Vista and why this update is necessary.
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Originally Posted by drosboro View Post

It looks like choosing "Apple Software Update" from your start menu will do the trick. It showed up in Software Update within Win7 Professional (32 bit) for me, at least. Currently downloading the 380.73MB update. I'll let you know if it doesn't work.

oh cool, yes it was there for me (32 bit).
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I downloaded the 32 bit version of the update and attempted to install it in Windows 7RC. I have a late 2007 20 inch iMac. As usual, Windows asked me twice for permission to execute the file. Then absolutely nothing. Windows 7RC works "flawlessly" in BootCamp, except for everything that is wrong on the Mac side. I have no idea what version of BootCamp I have, or how to find out. But, it is sounding like I will be forced into purchasing XP or Vista. Well, I can't exactly purchase XP SP2, which seems to be the overall requirement. I also refuse to do so. I am NOT going to purchase another version of Windows plus W7. Apple must take me for a freaking idiot. I can't run the BootCamp Extras from my Leopard DVD, for I loose my bluetooth keyboard and mouse. So as a result, my mouse scroll wheel does not work. The Windows clock is wrong. I can't control the screen brightness. The audio driver from the Leopard/BootCamp Extras does not work correctly either. So it looks like Apple is going to want me to purchase more RAM, I only have the original one gig, a USB keyboard and mouse, a copy of Vista, and a copy of Windows 7. Just so you know, Apple, that will NOT happen. I will sell this machine and get a PC with all the above. If you read my old posts, I note my weak eyesight. Windows 7 turns out to function much better for me than Leopard, or even Snow Leopard. There are speech programs that work almost as well for the PC as the included voices on the Mac. Apple does not support HDMI without an adapter. A growing number of PCs do. So I can use an HD TV as a monitor and get oversized text in either 720 or 1080 resolution. Apple, you are in the process of loosing a customer who has been unhappy with you since the beginning. I'm sure that is fine though. You will just go get another. That theory seems to work with Comcast and Sirius XM.
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Originally Posted by WPLJ42 View Post

I downloaded the 32 bit version of the update and attempted to install it in Windows 7RC. I have a late 2007 20 inch iMac. As usual, Windows asked me twice for permission to execute the file. Then absolutely nothing. Windows 7RC works "flawlessly" in BootCamp, except for everything that is wrong on the Mac side. I have no idea what version of BootCamp I have, or how to find out. But, it is sounding like I will be forced into purchasing XP or Vista. Well, I can't exactly purchase XP SP2, which seems to be the overall requirement. I also refuse to do so. I am NOT going to purchase another version of Windows plus W7. Apple must take me for a freaking idiot. I can't run the BootCamp Extras from my Leopard DVD, for I loose my bluetooth keyboard and mouse. So as a result, my mouse scroll wheel does not work. The Windows clock is wrong. I can't control the screen brightness. The audio driver from the Leopard/BootCamp Extras does not work correctly either. So it looks like Apple is going to want me to purchase more RAM, I only have the original one gig, a USB keyboard and mouse, a copy of Vista, and a copy of Windows 7. Just so you know, Apple, that will NOT happen. I will sell this machine and get a PC with all the above. If you read my old posts, I note my weak eyesight. Windows 7 turns out to function much better for me than Leopard, or even Snow Leopard. There are speech programs that work almost as well for the PC as the included voices on the Mac. Apple does not support HDMI without an adapter. A growing number of PCs do. So I can use an HD TV as a monitor and get oversized text in either 720 or 1080 resolution. Apple, you are in the process of loosing a customer who has been unhappy with you since the beginning. I'm sure that is fine though. You will just go get another. That theory seems to work with Comcast and Sirius XM.

Why would you install a production release version of an update onto a release candidate? I can't make sense of much of the rest of your post. No idea why you seem to think you need to buy more ram, or purchase XP or Vista. Windows 7 will function with a gig of ram. Adding more ram won't resolve driver issues.

For the Windows clock, just double click it and set the proper time and time zone.

The rest of your post is rather odd. Leopard out of the box doesn't support Windows 7 and it's foolish to expect that everything will work properly using an install DVD that doesn't support Windows 7.
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Windows 7 works fine here with the drivers shipped on the Snow Leopard disk (for Vista). Not sure what WPLJ42's problem is (beyond a broken return key, clearly).

Windows generally requires you to install drivers for it to work with your hardware - this is true on a PC as well as a Mac.
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Windows 7 works fine here with the drivers shipped on the Snow Leopard disk (for Vista). Not sure what WPLJ42's problem is (beyond a broken return key, clearly).

Windows generally requires you to install drivers for it to work with your hardware - this is true on a PC as well as a Mac.

From the post, it appears he or she is trying to use a Leopard disk, not a Snow Leopard disk.
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There is nothing wrong with my keyboard. I'm not sure what the confusion is with my post. I do have a couple of cold solder connections upstairs. I have some processing issues, the primary reason for my bad eyesight. If I can't get W7RC to work with BootCamp, why oh why, would I go out and purchase it? I do not have Snow Leopard. I don't see the need. Even at $29, there is nothing in it I need. I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but it just never fails that people here choose to misunderstand my posts, and give me a bad time. Is that really necessary? I suspect I could be happy with Vista Home Basic, but I don't want to purchase it either, without knowing if my bluetooth keyboard and mouse are going to work with it. Perhaps someone can tell me if that works or not? By the way, W7RC works okay with one gig, but it is slow. Vista Home Basic will run with 512 megs. It is the final version of Windows to run 100% in the classic Windows mode, which I would actually prefer. I can snag an OEM copy of Vista Home Basic for $50. I would like to know if I can run the BootCamp Extras from my Leopard DVD and have them all install without issues? There is a hissing noise associated with the Realtek audio driver that comes with the BootCamp Extras. Will that be a problem with Vista? My eyesight is a little blurry, all the time. I need to do something to make it better. Windows 7 makes it better. Is anyone still confused? I'll be back tomorrow. Have a great evening!
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I have a late 2006 iMac purchased in early 2007. Less than three years old! I bought Snow Leopard. I have a copy of Windows 7 I tried to install when it came out. (Need Windows to check IE compatibility in websites I design.) Big problem, lack of proper support meant it was a big failure and I had to get rid of the partition. So I wait months for Apple to finally support it. And I check Software Update, and it won't install it. Any reason? I mean what the heck? So I use Parallels 5, it works well enough.. \

And another thing, what the heck is this about needing Vista/XP to install 7?! Has Apple lost its marbles or something?
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Originally Posted by Dambuster View Post

New member here but not new to bootcamp...

I really find it strange that you need to have Vista or XP installed in order to install Windows 7... I'd say that's a mistake... It doesn't make any sense to use an earlier version of Windows, especially if the DVD you have contains a full installation and not an update.



First off, welcome to the boards.


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The software requires either Windows XP or Windows Vista SP2 before installing Windows 7.

To further support the Microsoft OS, system-specific drivers are available. Those with the new late 2009 iMac, both 21.5-inch and 27-inch models, can download the iMac Late 2009 Windows 7 Drivers, while iMac and Mac Pro users can use the Graphics Firmware Update 1.0 update for compatibility.

Finally, Apple has also released the Boot Camp Utility for Windows 7 Upgrade, which safely unmounts the read-only Macintosh volume on Microsoft Windows Vista. The utility must be used before upgrading from Vista to Windows 7.


WTF???

Where is the easy of use we come to expect from Apple? Why do people have to pay double? Vista and Win7?

Is this just a attempt to make it hard for people to install/upgrade/update their Windows partition?

Is Apple finally realizing their mistake allowing Windows on the Mac hardware and now trying to drive them off?


I expected something like this from Apple, thus I went the VMFusion route, so much easier to revert to the very first install configuration and update from there. Necessary for Windows.
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First off, welcome to the boards.

Is Apple finally realizing their mistake allowing Windows on the Mac hardware and now trying to drive them off?

How was that ever a mistake?
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There were some laptop wireless issues when using Windows 7 in BootCamp. Can anyone verify that this is now fixed?
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Originally Posted by WPLJ42 View Post

There is nothing wrong with my keyboard. I'm not sure what the confusion is with my post. I do have a couple of cold solder connections upstairs. I have some processing issues, the primary reason for my bad eyesight. If I can't get W7RC to work with BootCamp, why oh why, would I go out and purchase it? I do not have Snow Leopard. I don't see the need. Even at $29, there is nothing in it I need. I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but it just never fails that people here choose to misunderstand my posts, and give me a bad time. Is that really necessary? I suspect I could be happy with Vista Home Basic, but I don't want to purchase it either, without knowing if my bluetooth keyboard and mouse are going to work with it. Perhaps someone can tell me if that works or not? By the way, W7RC works okay with one gig, but it is slow. Vista Home Basic will run with 512 megs. It is the final version of Windows to run 100% in the classic Windows mode, which I would actually prefer. I can snag an OEM copy of Vista Home Basic for $50. I would like to know if I can run the BootCamp Extras from my Leopard DVD and have them all install without issues? There is a hissing noise associated with the Realtek audio driver that comes with the BootCamp Extras. Will that be a problem with Vista? My eyesight is a little blurry, all the time. I need to do something to make it better. Windows 7 makes it better. Is anyone still confused? I'll be back tomorrow. Have a great evening!

My Bluetooth keyboard works fine under Windows 7 (both the release candidate and the release version). I had issues with my Magic Mouse, but my other two bluetooth mice work without issue.

Windows 7 has a lower memory requirement than Vista, so you would probably be better served with Windows 7. Using 1 GB in Vista would not run as well as 1 GB under Windows 7.

Leopard doesn't support Windows 7. It's unlikely boot camp would recognize it as a valid Windows install disk although I haven't tried it. If it doesn't, you might be able to get it to install outside of Boot Camp.

Your hissing audio issue would probably be better served on the Apple forums. You'd be more likely to find others who may be seeing the same issue, and you could create a forum post specific to your problem.

http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1219
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I'm curious, where are people getting the idea they need to install Vista or XP first? I've installed it on a mini, a 24" iMac, a 27" iMac, and a 2008 and 2009 Macbook Pro, all without issue. The biggest problem was on the new 27" iMac, which required me to delete the stock ATI*.SYS drivers to get past the blank screen issue, but it was a breeze other than that.
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My first post... long time reader.

It does not look like you need to have XP or Vista. You can do a new install of Win 7.

See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3986
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I'm curious, where are people getting the idea they need to install Vista or XP first?

Me too. When I first read the article it seemed obvious to me that there were two situations:

1. If you were already running XP or Vista in Bootcamp and wanted to UPGRADE to Windows 7, you were advised to first install the Boot Camp Utility for Windows 7 Upgrade. (I'm guessing until today it was not possible for anyone to upgrade their XP or Vista Bootcamp installation so this is the solution for those people).

2. If you're installing Windows 7 from scratch or already have it installed using the Vista drivers on the Snow Leopard DVD, you need the Boot Camp Software Update 3.1 for Windows. This is a Windows .exe that installs in Windows to provide drivers and software so that Windows can access the Mac hardware and file system.

If this is incorrect please advise for everyone's benefit.
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Originally Posted by Larry767 View Post

Me too. When I first read the article it seemed obvious to me that there were two situations:

1. If you were already running XP or Vista in Bootcamp and wanted to UPGRADE to Windows 7, you were advised to first install the Boot Camp Utility for Windows 7 Upgrade. (I'm guessing until today it was not possible for anyone to upgrade their XP or Vista Bootcamp installation so this is the solution for those people).

2. If you're installing Windows 7 from scratch or already have it installed using the Vista drivers on the Snow Leopard DVD, you need the Boot Camp Software Update 3.1 for Windows. This is a Windows .exe that installs in Windows to provide drivers and software so that Windows can access the Mac hardware and file system.

If this is incorrect please advise for everyone's benefit.

Sounds right
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I'm curious, where are people getting the idea they need to install Vista or XP first? I've installed it on a mini, a 24" iMac, a 27" iMac, and a 2008 and 2009 Macbook Pro, all without issue. The biggest problem was on the new 27" iMac, which required me to delete the stock ATI*.SYS drivers to get past the blank screen issue, but it was a breeze other than that.

It's the original post that says so.
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First off, welcome to the boards.

Thank you.
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It's the original post that says so.

The article is in error. Macbuff has it right:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3986

I can verify this works on any recent mac but a Mac Pro and an Air. I've installed it on everything else but that.
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post #32 of 61
Sorry, but I also run Windows 7 RC since Leopard (now snow leopard) and didn't (and still don't) have any of those issues. You should try installing the drivers from the Mac OS X install disc.

It is also very stupid of you to blame Apple for Windows' inability to display the time right...



I don't know what is this apocalyptic fuss about Apple trying to make things difficult to the consumer.... but Windows 7 has been working "flawlessly" (as flawlessly as a Microsoft OS can be) since august... the only problem was that Windows 7 didn't get the scroll and right click gestures from my MacBook's, and this was solved in an Boot Camp update months ago.

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Cool, thanks for clarifying the issue.
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Regrettably, I have to install Windows on my Mac to check for compatibility of the websites I design. This will make using Windows an easier pill to swallow.

In a related topic, does anybody know where 10.6.3 stands? 10.6.2 ruined the speed and stability gains that the original release version of Snow Leopard brought over Leopard.

regret to use windows? why? I don't feel any different since I have used windows 7. I use both PC and mac. they have both advantage. I guess you can't tweak windows for your everyday life, make you more complicated? do you think mac is solution? for me. it is not still. I play game a lot nowadays. even bootcamp doesn't give me full advantage. on windows 7, gaming is so great on PC not mac. mac is not still proper to play game because it has weak graphic card (especially laptop).
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Does anyone’s Boot Camp show up in Software Update? If not for tech blogs I wouldn’t even know this was updated.
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Does anyones Boot Camp show up in Software Update? If not for tech blogs I wouldnt even know this was updated.

Not me. I think you have to run the update from *within* Windows 7 in BootCamp.
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Not me. I think you have to run the update from *within* Windows 7 in BootCamp.

Darn. I hoped that they had a way to installing Windows from my HFS+ partition since I dont burn discs anymore. I use Fusion right now for Windows 7.
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Does anyones Boot Camp show up in Software Update? If not for tech blogs I wouldnt even know this was updated.

It does if you run the Software Update on the Windows side.
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post #39 of 61
Hopefully it fixes the issue with the new aluminum Apple (wired) keyboards that, when hooked up to an older iMac (Core Duo), don't get power sent to them until after the boot loader fires up, thereby negating any chance of holding the OPTION key to choose to boot into Windows.

The only workaround I've found is to hold the Menu button on the iMac's remote control which allows me to then boot into Windows as needed.
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Hopefully it fixes the issue with the new aluminum Apple (wired) keyboards that, when hooked up to an older iMac (Core Duo), don't get power sent to them until after the boot loader fires up, thereby negating any chance of holding the OPTION key to choose to boot into Windows.

The only workaround I've found is to hold the Menu button on the iMac's remote control which allows me to then boot into Windows as needed.

Easiest way to reboot into Windows for me is simply to select the Windows disk as the boot target in the System Configuration tool. Takes a couple of clicks in OS X, but no need then to select the OS during the boot process.
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