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Apple has extended the time available for it to make a legal argument against Fujitsu over the "iPad" name according to Trademark Office documents, and AT&T may be prepping its network for "unannounced devices."

Evidence points to iPad as possible name

According to US Patent and Trademark Office documents uncovered by The Jesus Tablet blog, Apple has filed several requests asking for additional time to present evidence opposing Fujitsu's "iPad" trademark application. Apple began the process last September, and has continued to ask to have the option open to oppose the name. Apple was granted an extension, giving the company until February 28 to make its case.

Apple's interest in the "iPad" moniker may be simply due to the fact that it closely resembles the iPod name, as Apple is known for diligently protecting its brand. Although Fujitsu had first filed to trademark the name back in 2003, Apple has only recently shown interest, lending credence to the argument that it may indeed be the name of its new tablet device.

Last week, the IPAD name was registered in New Zealand, Australia and Trinidad and Tobago by a company called IP Application Development. Apple was also found to be behind the company Slate Computing in trademarking the name "iSlate." Apple has trademarked other names that could be used for the new device, including "Magic Slate."

AT&T prepping network for "unannounced devices"

AT&T "has apparently been meeting individually with regional executives to inform them of some changes to the AT&T network," sources tell Boy Genius Report.

"They seem to be focused on prepping the network to compensate for unannounced devices and also future devices that will use heavy data."

Yesterday, it was reported that one analyst believes AT&T will need to increase its investment in wireless infrastructure by $5 billion in order to equal Verizon's levels of coverage and reliability.

Boy Genius Report has a respectable track record in forecasting AT&T and iPhone related announcements, but some of its Apple rumors have been less than accurate.
post #2 of 71
this exactly doesn't mean the name will be iPad, as they trademarked many other potential names, too. And protecting themselves against Fujitsu is just to protect the "latest creaton" whatever it'll be called.
post #3 of 71
I was lambasted in an older thread for mocking the name "iPad," but I still think it sucks. iPad sounds too much like a SNL sketch about a new Apple product, i.e. a generic "Apple-like name."

Introducing the "iPaper" to be used with the new "iPencil." Heheha. Look! Steve Jobs wears all black! ROFL!

Lame.
post #4 of 71
iTampon does have a ring to it.
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post #5 of 71
I don't care what they call this thing, if it's tied to a cell network that you need to pay more for (on top of the cell phone charges) it will fail. They can't possibly be that stupid though can they?
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Such a silly name. Why even go with anything iWhatever? However on the flip side, MacPad does sound bad as well...
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I don't care what they call this thing, if it's tied to a cell network that you need to pay more for (on top of the cell phone charges) it will fail. They can't possibly be that stupid though can they?

This will happen - if it does have 3G - if you go with a contract you'll be buying a subsidized model. In other words if that does happen the open model will cost around $1,499.
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post #8 of 71
iPad sounds too much like iPod, and it isn't a particularly good name. They should just call it iTablet or Apple Tablet. Keep it simple like the most popular Apple device: the iPhone.
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This will happen - if it does have 3G - if you go with a contract you'll be buying a subsidized model. In other words if that does happen the open model will cost around $1,499.


They gotta do better than that... If thats what they do this thing will be like the ATV in terms of sales and adoption.
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the open model will cost around $1,499.

That is insane for their latest creation. $899 is the max or it fails to attract the mass audience they expected. A higher price will still get its share of buyers, but not the mass they wanted.
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I don't care what they call this thing, if it's tied to a cell network that you need to pay more for (on top of the cell phone charges) it will fail. They can't possibly be that stupid though can they?

In other words, you want something for free.

Where did this sense of "connectivity entitlement" begin? Is this strictly a U.S. thing? People think they should be able to get Wi-Fi for free, get media/information content online for free, and now access 3G service for free?

This isn't the early-2000's. The business model has changed. Why do you think Google all of a sudden feels the need to sell tangible things? We went through the rise of tech and learned that, in the end, your company must actuall sell something to make money.

If "you need to pay more... it will fail." Give me a freaking break.
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iPad sounds too much like iPod, and it isn't a particularly good name. They should just call it iTablet or Apple Tablet. Keep it simple like the most popular Apple device: the iPhone.

Agreed, iPad is way too similar to iPod. There's no way iPad got serious consideration (at Apple anyway; I wouldn't put it past Microsoft).

Apple should bring back either the iBook or eMate names.
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"They seem to be focused on prepping the network to compensate for unannounced devices and also future devices that will use heavy data."

You mean AT&T finally giving us tethering?!

Seriously, AT&T need to give us what they promised before they start preparing for anything else.
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Where did this sense of "connectivity entitlement" begin?.

Probably in the 1920's with free broadcast radio.
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In other words, you want something for free.

Where did this sense of "connectivity entitlement" begin? Is this strictly a U.S. thing? People think they should be able to get Wi-Fi for free, get media/information content online for free, and now access 3G service for free?

This isn't the early-2000's. The business model has changed. Why do you think Google all of a sudden feels the need to sell tangible things? We went through the rise of tech and learned that, in the end, your company must actuall sell something to make money.

If "you need to pay more... it will fail." Give me a freaking break.

No jerk off, I don't want it to be tied to a cell network.


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And you're kidding about google having to sell something tangible to make money, right? You do know how they make their money don't you?
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this exactly doesn't mean the name will be iPad, as they trademarked many other potential names, too. And protecting themselves against Fujitsu is just to protect the "latest creaton" whatever it'll be called.

exactly. they may just want to avoid any confusion.

also I can't recall any Fujitsu ipad ever being released. if that is the case then they have a very week trademark claim. use is a factor. if they aren't using the name then this is a near repeat of the whole Cisco iphone fun.

as to the ATT thing, that they have to brace for anything is a factor in my hope that any cellular on this device is not locked to ATT, hopefully both GSM and CDMA and optional. if I have to sign up for a data line with ATT to get this pad/slate/tablet I and probably 1000s of others aren't going to be too happy

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post #17 of 71
iPad is just to protect the iPod name. I doubt apple would launch something that would cause confusion between the two devices. iSlate will be sold with a 2 year ATT countract in order to subsidize it and make it at least somewhat affordable.
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iSlate will be sold with a 2 year ATT countract in order to subsidize it and make it at least somewhat affordable.

which could prove to be a serious mistake. in a couple of different ways

1. tying to one carrier. after all how many customers does ATT have, how many does t-mobile have, verizon, sprint. this device has the potential to be the gateway for a lot of folks into
Apple and their world of wonder. why would the company limit themselves only to one part of that group. particularly when they don't need the R&D from an exclusive deal anymore

2. requiring a contract at all. most carriers make you pay more for tethered data or make you add a second data line. if you force that on folks many will not be happy and will walk away. Not everyone has the need for cell data, wifi is fine. be it wifi in their home, at the starbucks with their overpriced coffee or via a deal like ATT's free wifi with your smart phone data plan or ATT home service etc.

if they make this device with unlocked, multi band, optional cell data (and wifi) they have a bigger potential market. as will the content providers that will possibly be giving Apple a chunk of the change

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post #19 of 71
I think they are just jerking everyone's chain to make them look foolish on the 27th. How about iMac&cheese
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The iPad will be between 10 and 11 inches and go on sale in Q1 while the larger iSlate will be go on sale in Q2 after durability and battery life issues have been resolved.

You heard it here first... Time will tell.
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I don't care what they call this thing, if it's tied to a cell network that you need to pay more for (on top of the cell phone charges) it will fail. They can't possibly be that stupid though can they?

I don't understand you, guys... why do you think the tablet would be subsidized??? it's not expected to be a big-screen iPhone, it's much more likely to serve as a "super-iPod Touch" that you can't buy with contract, evenif you can be connected to the internet via wifi. So, why should we need 3G network for that? if the iPod Touch sells great with wifi...
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The iPad will be between 10 and 11 inches and go on sale in Q1 while the larger iSlate will be go on sale in Q2 after durability and battery life issues have been resolved.

You heard it here first... Time will tell.

this is BS!
so what the hell would Apple do with that first-step creaton, iPad, after being released the iSlate? this can't happen IMHO.
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Apple began the process last September, and has continued to ask to have the option open to oppose the name.

Based on the weasel-y wording in the bolded portion, FUD, I'd say.
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Sorry to bring up he-who-shall-not-be-named: In all fairness, Techstud was the first to call it iPad (and I railed against it). I'll have to eat my hat is it comes to pass.....
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I don't understand you, guys... why do you think the tablet would be subsidized??? it's not expected to be a big-screen iPhone, it's much more likely to serve as a "super-iPod Touch" that you can't buy with contract, evenif you can be connected to the internet via wifi. So, why should we need 3G network for that? if the iPod Touch sells great with wifi...

I don't want it to be. The reason why I would think that is because almost every single article/rumor related to this device that they are coming out with ties it to a cell network, some how some way.
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this is BS!
so what the hell would Apple do with that first-step creaton, iPad, after being released the iSlate? this can't happen IMHO.

Well let's see: paper note books come in 2 main sizes:

a. 8.5 x 11
b. 5.5 x 8.5

a. iSlate $1200.
b. iPad $800.


Why not? Time will tell.
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this exactly doesn't mean the name will be iPad, as they trademarked many other potential names, too. And protecting themselves against Fujitsu is just to protect the "latest creaton" whatever it'll be called.

Im with you, I think its just to protect against the similarities of iPad.

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You mean AT&T finally giving us tethering?!

Seriously, AT&T need to give us what they promised before they start preparing for anything else.

AT&T has to be working to allow tethering since its such a financial draw and people like me are just taking it because they cant buy it.

I think that using 3GSM for the tablet makes the most sense, even if they do announce a CDMA version of the iPhone. The overall sales will be low compared to the iPhone and dropped calls have no affect on a tablet pulling data.
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I think that using 3GSM for the tablet makes the most sense, even if they do announce a CDMA version of the iPhone. The overall sales will be low compared to the iPhone and dropped calls have no affect on a tablet pulling data.

And world wide compatibility if they want to sell it in other countries.
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Well let's see: paper note books come in 2 main sizes:

a. 8.5 x 11
b. 5.5 x 8.5

a. iSlate $1200.
b. iPad $800.


Why not? Time will tell.

I'd go for that. Just not those prices. Drop each by $200 and you're talking.
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iPad FTW!!!!!!!
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Well let's see: paper note books come in 2 main sizes:

a. 8.5 x 11
b. 5.5 x 8.5

a. iSlate $1200.
b. iPad $800.


Why not? Time will tell.

a is a 13.9 inch screen, something I have not seen speculated anywhere. That thing would be freaking enormous!

b of course is a 10.1 inch screen, which seems to be the dominate speculation.
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post #32 of 71
*Waits for the Microsoft Tampon to be announced*





Seriously though, wont Maxipad sue them?
post #33 of 71
It's a much better name than iSlate, at least.
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Pad and Tablet sound a bit mundane, like a dog-eared yellow legal pad on someone's desk.

Slate sounds a bit 19th century. It evokes images of a young Abe Lincoln sitting in front of the fireplace learning to read on a small chalkboard.

I'm gonna go with iTouch. "I touch" the screen to interact with the device.
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It's a much better name than iSlate, at least.

I agree. Eventually the stupid tampon jokes will go away and all will be left is the grandeur and popularity of this device.

iPad is sure as heck better than iSlate.
post #36 of 71
Here's the thing. "iPad" might sound awkward now, but so did "iPod." Anyone remember that? People were like "What? A pod? Like, a seed pod? Some kind of spacecraft? That's the stupidest name I ever heard."

And now, of course, "iPod" is just what it's called, like "zipper" and "kleenex." If this product is successful in the way of some of Apple's other products, they could call it "iMonkey'sAss" and before to too long you'll forget you ever had misgivings. It'll just be what you call that ubiquitous thing that everybody has.
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Here's the thing. "iPad" might sound awkward now, but so did "iPod." Anyone remember that? People were like "What? A pod? Like, a seed pod? Some kind of spacecraft? That's the stupidest name I ever heard."

And now, of course, "iPod" is just what it's called, like "zipper" and "kleenex." If this product is successful in the way of some of Apple's other products, they could call it "iMonkey'sAss" and before to too long you'll forget you ever had misgivings. It'll just be what you call that ubiquitous thing that everybody has.

True, but I doubt that iPad is likely since its too similar to iPod.
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post #38 of 71
StayFree is going to be so upset. I figured they were working in a 5 day a month iPod integration product.
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True, but I doubt that iPad is likely since its too similar to iPod.

Yeah, you're probably right. Maybe they'll call it the "iFune."
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Yeah, you're probably right. Maybe they'll call it the "iFune."

zLate -- everyone will want the iSlate, but 2 years later, you can also get the zLate.
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