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post #41 of 257
1/21/10 at 11:28am
Pass. I have no use for this "creation".
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post #42 of 257
1/21/10 at 11:33am
I've only had a detached interest in the whole tablet speculation, but that mockup is cool. Seeing the OS X dock rather than the iPhone home screen made me take notice. I think I would want one of those if it existed!

Oh, wait, I already have OS X on my laptop. Okay, never mind.
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post #43 of 257
1/21/10 at 11:38am
It will be inflatable with helium, which will allow it to float in midair, and also to deflate for convenient storage.
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post #44 of 257
1/21/10 at 11:41am
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You don't see it?

His iMac screen is just too glossy...
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post #45 of 257
1/21/10 at 11:42am
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Originally Posted by paxman View Post

I don't buy the design. Certainly not an alu back. The thing will spend most of its time lying on its back getting scratched up. There will be some other material on the back side. Also don't buy the OSX interface.

[CENTER]How is this any different than the vast majority of Apple's recent designs e.g chrome-back iPod Classic and iPod Touch, (scratch-prone plastc-back) iPhone 3G/3GS, and (rubber-bottomed/smudge-magnet) MacBook ?

Apple designers often seem far more concerned with (trendy) aesthetics than practicality when it comes to the substrates they use.[/CENTER]
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post #46 of 257
1/21/10 at 11:45am
I bet you guys $1M is isn't thinner than 11.6mm at its thickest point. These guys are guessing, they haven't seen it. It will be aluminum and "shaped" more like the 3G. These guys are basically suggesting it won't have a curved back, and I think their "guess" is wrong.
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post #47 of 257
1/21/10 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by rrabu View Post

I predict it will look more like a painter's pallet but with a screen on it instead of well's of paint so that you can more easily hold it while working on it with the other hand.

That's an interesting one. I was thinking it would have another touch-sensitive area on the backside of a rectangular device, but that would seem confusing to the user.
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post #48 of 257
1/21/10 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

[CENTER]How is this any different than the vast majority of Apple's recent designs e.g chrome-back iPod Classic and iPod Touch, (scratch-prone plastc-back) iPhone 3G/3GS, and (rubber-bottomed/smudge-magnet) MacBook ?

Apple designers often seem far more concerned with (trendy) aesthetics than practicality when it comes to the substrates they use.[/CENTER]

It was not created by Apple but by a rumor monger.
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post #49 of 257
1/21/10 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

[CENTER]How is this any different than the vast majority of Apple's recent designs e.g chrome-back iPod Classic and iPod Touch, (scratch-prone plastc-back) iPhone 3G/3GS, and (rubber-bottomed/smudge-magnet) MacBook ?

Apple designers often seem far more concerned with (trendy) aesthetics than practicality when it comes to the substrates they use.[/CENTER]

Glad to see you're still here!

Yes that apple design is terribad, which is why the rest of the industry waits for them to launch then copies them. \
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post #50 of 257
1/21/10 at 11:49am
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His iMac screen is just too glossy...


hahahaha! good one...
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post #51 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by AdamIIGS View Post

Glad to see you're still here!

Yes that apple design is terribad, which is why the rest of the industry waits for them to launch then copies them. \

[CENTER]We obviously have much different perceptions as to what constitutes 'copying'.

I guess that's why the iPhone shares an aesthetic remarkably reminiscent of a scaled-down version of the Hp Compaq TC1XXX (circa 2003), because the Windows world was eagerly waiting for Apple to release a tablet computer first.



Have A Nice Day[/CENTER]
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post #52 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:03pm
Please, NO HOME BUTTON! At least, not on the front side.
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post #53 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:03pm
My curiosity is piqued, I have to admit. I hadn't considered this thing also having Cell capability. How funny is that. We went from huge cell phones in the 70's, to marvels like the iPhone, and I can now see someone pulling a tablet out of their bag to make a call

If any of you remembers this like I do, you're too old...

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post #54 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:06pm
The 27th can't get here fast enough
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post #55 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:09pm
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I bet you guys $1M is isn't thinner than 11.6mm at its thickest point. These guys are guessing, they haven't seen it. It will be aluminum and "shaped" more like the 3G. These guys are basically suggesting it won't have a curved back, and I think their "guess" is wrong.

3G and 3Gs have a flat back, with curved edges.

I think a nice narrow wedge like the bottom half of an Air would be cool and give it a "handedness" myself, but we won't really know till we see it anyway.

Given that we know it will probably be a flat square with a screen on the front and buttons around the edges though, predictions about what it will look like are a big waste of time IMO. The hardware is really not that important in terms of predictions and the software is really telling, and really important.

I think Ireland is wrong about it being desktop OS-X on it and I think solipsism is wrong about it being a whole new OS in between the desktop and iPhone. IMO it will just be iPhone OS 4.0.

Predictions are just a silly game though and we'll all know soon enough. It doesn't matter that much to me if I'm totally wrong as long as the device itself works well and does what I want it to. Apple designs really good stuff, I'm sure it will be great even if it's not exactly what we all want.

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post #56 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:11pm
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Originally Posted by Buck View Post

Please, NO HOME BUTTON! At least, not on the front side.

[CENTER]Not even a 'virtual' HOME button that changes with device orientation?

The HOME button is an essential element to the entire Apple iPhone/Touch OS as it provides an 'iDiot proof' means of returning the app-selection screen.

I'd venture that the HOME button will be a huge part of this design... We'll See Soon Enough.
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post #57 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:11pm
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Have A Nice Day

1) This is not a tablet computer

2) Apple has never made anything like this so how is it "copying"?

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post #58 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:19pm
Someone posted this on slashdot. You know you've got the UI down when a 1 year old can figure it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrVt2ZcrWUY&feature=player_embedded

Pretty good stuff..lol

I think I would actually prefer the iPhone UI or something similar for a tablet.
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post #59 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by DJRumpy View Post

Someone posted this on slashdot. You know you've got the UI down when a 1 year old can figure it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrVt2ZcrWUY&feature=player_embedded

Pretty good stuff..lol

I think I would actually prefer the iPhone UI or something similar for a tablet.

[CENTER]This is understandable when the UI appears to be inspired by a stack of children's blocks arranged in a grid pattern.

Which is not necessarily a bad thing, but a testament to the fact that the iPhone/Touch OS caters to the absolute lowest intellectual standard.[/CENTER]
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post #60 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

1) This is not a tablet computer

2) Apple has never made anything like this so how is it "copying"?

[CENTER]Keep telling yourself that, but the design/aesthetic similarities between this 'tablet/slate/convertible' and the design of the iPhone/Touch (and probably Apple's upcoming iSlate/iPad) are quite obvious to anyone not peering through Apple-colored glasses.

'Borrowing' the basic designs of industry pioneers is nothing new in this environment.[/CENTER]
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post #61 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:37pm
This image seems to be in line with the rumors I've heard-- makes sense to me but I'm not keen on the design being that it looks exactly like the iphone.

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/artic..._tablet_glass/
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post #62 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by DJRumpy View Post

My curiosity is piqued, I have to admit. I hadn't considered this thing also having Cell capability. How funny is that. We went from huge cell phones in the 70's, to marvels like the iPhone, and I can now see someone pulling a tablet out of their bag to make a call

If any of you remembers this like I do, you're too old...

Speak to MacTripper.

He's on record as saying holding a 10" device up to your ear and talking at the far end of it will be seen as cool.

Too old! As someone said, in reference to growing old - the alternative is worse.
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post #63 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:45pm
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I predict it will look more like a painter's pallet but with a screen on it instead of well's of paint so that you can more easily hold it while working on it with the other hand.

Nah. They'll show everyone holding the tablet as if it were a pallet, but the shape will still be a proper rectangle.
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post #64 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post

Speak to MacTripper.

He's on record as saying holding a 10" device up to your ear and talking at the far end of it will be seen as cool.

Too old! As someone said, in reference to growing old - the alternative is worse.

lol..I can't get the image out of my head. I can just imagine someone doing just that, although I would imagine it would be more for something like a video call than something you hold up to your head, the imagery is still funny as hell...
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post #65 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

[CENTER]Keep telling yourself that, but the design/aesthetic similarities between this 'tablet/slate/convertible' and the design of the iPhone/Touch (and probably Apple's upcoming iSlate/iPad) are quite obvious to anyone not peering through Apple-colored glasses.

'Borrowing' the basic designs of industry pioneers is nothing new in this environment.[/CENTER]

I don't know why I bother with you, it's clear that you don't listen to anyone but yourself. Please look up the words "pedant" and "iconoclast" and then look in the mirror. Also remember that if a doctor gives you medication, it's a good idea to remember to take it.

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post #66 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:51pm
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[CENTER]Keep telling yourself that, but the design/aesthetic similarities between this 'tablet/slate/convertible' and the design of the iPhone/Touch (and probably Apple's upcoming iSlate/iPad) are quite obvious to anyone not peering through Apple-colored glasses.

'Borrowing' the basic designs of industry pioneers is nothing new in this environment.[/CENTER]

[RIGHT]Yawn.[/RIGHT]
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post #67 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:55pm
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

3G and 3Gs have a flat back, with curved edges.

I think a nice narrow wedge like the bottom half of an Air would be cool and give it a "handedness" myself, but we won't really know till we see it anyway.

Given that we know it will probably be a flat square with a screen on the front and buttons around the edges though, predictions about what it will look like are a big waste of time IMO. The hardware is really not that important in terms of predictions and the software is really telling, and really important.

I think Ireland is wrong about it being desktop OS-X on it and I think solipsism is wrong about it being a whole new OS in between the desktop and iPhone. IMO it will just be iPhone OS 4.0.

Predictions are just a silly game though and we'll all know soon enough. It doesn't matter that much to me if I'm totally wrong as long as the device itself works well and does what I want it to. Apple designs really good stuff, I'm sure it will be great even if it's not exactly what we all want.


There is absolutely positively no way that it runs iPhone 4.0 period with no major differences to the UI between them. iPhone OS? Yes. A new one. iPhone UI? Nope.
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post #68 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:56pm
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I don't know why I bother with you, it's clear that you don't listen to anyone but yourself. Please look up the words "pedant" and "iconoclast" and then look in the mirror. Also remember that if a doctor gives you medication, it's a good idea to remember to take it.

[CENTER]Don't get all Apple-Hurt simply because there are those who still believe that it's important to examine the facts and 'Think Different'.

You have your opinion on these matters and others have theirs... It's That Simple.[/CENTER]
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post #69 of 257
1/21/10 at 12:58pm
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There is absolutely positively no way that it runs iPhone 4.0 period with no major differences to the UI between them. iPhone OS? Yes. A new one. iPhone UI? Nope.

Hmmm?

[CENTER]You do realize that Apple iPhone OS 4.0 would (in fact) be the 'new one' ?[/CENTER]
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post #70 of 257
1/21/10 at 1:02pm
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[CENTER]Don't get all Apple-Hurt simply because there are those who still believe that it's important to examine the facts and 'Think Different'.

You have your opinion on these matters and others have theirs... It's That Simple.[/CENTER]

Seriously, you just sound crazy to me. And I don't mean "crazy" in the colloquial sense of wild and interesting. I'm not joking. You need to see a doctor unless you are just posing as a crazy person to have a laugh.

You seem to have a very tenuous grasp on reality. You are essentially arguing that because someone made a product that has a square screen with and edge to it, that Apple's tablet is a "copy" of that idea??

I hate to break it to you but the invention of the square with rounded corners, precedes even Hewlett Packards incarnation and perhaps the invention of computers altogether.

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post #71 of 257
1/21/10 at 1:03pm
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Yes. I thought something like that when I first saw the One-Laptop-per-child tablet.
http://thevibe.socialvibe.com/index....lim-75-tablet/

Somehow I doubt that thing is possible with current technology anywhere near that price.

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1) This is not a tablet computer

How is that not a tablet computer?
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1/21/10 at 1:06pm
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There is absolutely positively no way that it runs iPhone 4.0 period with no major differences to the UI between them. iPhone OS? Yes. A new one. iPhone UI? Nope.

iPhone OS 4.0 will likely have a new UI. I do suspect that there will be some tablet specific UI elements, but it's hard to speculate considering we don't know how the new UI will look on the iPhone.
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post #73 of 257
1/21/10 at 1:07pm
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There is absolutely positively no way that it runs iPhone 4.0 period with no major differences to the UI between them. iPhone OS? Yes. A new one. iPhone UI? Nope.

I'm not sure what you're saying here, but I'm saying that I think it will run iPhone OS 4.0.

Remember this:


Now imagine it with three, or even four bridges and see how silly it looks in your minds eye. It just doesn't make any sense to me that Apple will have multiple OS's. Two is one thing, three or four is just not on (IMO of course).

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post #74 of 257
1/21/10 at 1:08pm
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... How is that not a tablet computer?

it's a convertible laptop.

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post #75 of 257
1/21/10 at 1:10pm
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I bet you guys $1M is isn't thinner than 11.6mm at its thickest point. These guys are guessing, they haven't seen it. It will be aluminum and "shaped" more like the 3G. These guys are basically suggesting it won't have a curved back, and I think their "guess" is wrong.

How did you arrive at such an oddly specific dimension?

From a useability standpoint, I think a curved back would be a mistake. Not saying Apple won't do it, but if you tap anything off center when it's resting on a table, you'll rock the device. It happens with iPhone, but iPhone is meant to be hand held, I don't expect a large tablet to be held the same way.
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post #76 of 257
1/21/10 at 1:12pm
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

it's a convertible laptop.

Okay. Converting from what to what?
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post #77 of 257
1/21/10 at 1:13pm
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

Seriously, you just sound crazy to me. And I don't mean "crazy" in the colloquial sense of wild and interesting. I'm not joking. You need to see a doctor unless you are just posing as a crazy person to have a laugh.

You seem to have a very tenuous grasp on reality. You are essentially arguing that because someone made a product that has a square screen with and edge to it, that Apple's tablet is a "copy" of that idea??

I hate to break it to you but the invention of the square with rounded corners, precedes even Hewlett Packards incarnation and perhaps the invention of computers altogether.

[CENTER]It does very little to substantiate your argument when all you do is resort to name-calling and (random) insults.

Again: If you fail to recognize the aesthetic similarities between the two devices in question... No Problem, but it doesn't diminish the fact that it does exist.

Now Feel Free To Move Along.[/CENTER]
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post #78 of 257
1/21/10 at 1:15pm
Obviously Apple is copying this:



Innovative my ass.
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post #79 of 257
1/21/10 at 1:21pm
And more seriously: DaHarder, if you want to be taken seriously and not just come off like another silly troll (not that it's entirely clear that you do, but, you know, benefit of the doubt and all), you really need to do better than point to a flat screen with a bezel and chant "Neener neener neener, Apple is a copycat."

I imagine that you can work out for yourself that any handheld, flat-screen, touch device is going to be a rectangle with a bezel, and that the real innovation is going to come from the specifics of the hardware and how that interacts with software. Everybody here can see that, so when you pretend like you can't it just makes you look obstinate and/or a bit thick.

That's not what you want, right? You want to contribute to the conversation, beyond thinking up stuff you imagine will needle Apple people? Because that would be so sad, if that's all you're here for. So very, very sad.
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1/21/10 at 1:22pm
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3G and 3Gs have a flat back, with curved edges.

You're wrong.
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