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I only ask, because there seems to be a LOT of 16/17 year olds here, and I want to seperate the kids from the adults.

No offense to the teenagers, but from my own personal experience, there's a difference between your age and being 21 or older (usually). Who here is aged? I'm personally 22.

Also, who has a degree and in what? I'm almost done with my college. I'll be getting a B.S. in Broadcasting and Film in May.
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post #2 of 81
I am over 35 and under 40

I have three degrees BA, MA, and MFA.


but I am an emotional teenager

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post #3 of 81
See the offical list <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=10&t=000018" target="_blank">here</a> (I'll be 18 next month, not like you care)

[quote]No offense to the teenagers, but from my own personal experience, there's a difference between your age and being 21 or older (usually). Who here is aged? I'm personally 22.<hr></blockquote>
Well its really not good to generalize. I for one enjoy such things as classical music, I enjoy talking with people about current events and politics, and have held a good job for over three years. By contrast, last weekend I was riding the subway home from boston and there were four guys in their 20's drunk as hell, yelling and kicking each other in the crotch. I agree there is a big difference.

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post #4 of 81
[quote]Originally posted by CosmoNut:
<strong>I only ask, because there seems to be a LOT of 16/17 year olds here, and I want to seperate the kids from the adults.

No offense to the teenagers, but from my own personal experience, there's a difference between your age and being 21 or older (usually). Who here is aged? I'm personally 22.</strong><hr></blockquote>


could have fooled me
post #5 of 81
I'm 20 in a month.
post #6 of 81
...no comment.

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post #7 of 81
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[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
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could have fooled me </strong><hr></blockquote>

Case and point. Thanks applenut. I can always count on you for a blatant example of immaturity.

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post #8 of 81
As stated in the official list of AI member age i am 35.

Don't worry i wont boring you with my list of degree (or equivalent : 14 years of study since the age of eighteen is very long ...)
post #9 of 81
31

BS in Physics. PhD in medical physics.
post #10 of 81
[quote]Originally posted by Scott H.:
<strong>31

BS in Physics. PhD in medical physics.</strong><hr></blockquote>
can someone explain me please the signification of your degrees ?
PhD does it means doctor in physics ?
what are BA, MA, and MFA (M for Master ?, A for architecture ?)
post #11 of 81
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Degree lingo:

B- Bachelor's
M- Master's
Ph. D - Philosophical Doctor
DMA - Doctor of Musical Arts
MD - Medical Doctor

A - Arts
FA - Fine Arts
S - Science

BA - Business Administration
E- Education
EE - Electrical Engineering

Hence (examples):

BSE - Bachelor's of Science in Education
BSEE - Bachelor's of Science in Electrical Engineering
BFA - Bachelor's of Fine Arts
BSBA - Bachelor's of Science in Business Administration
MA - Master's of Arts
MBA - Master's of Business Administration

And the list goes on longer, but those are the basics.

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post #12 of 81
MFA is a Master of Fine Arts. M.Arch. is a master of Architecture degree.

I'm 26 with a B.Arch. (Bachelor of Architecture) as my undergrad degree. I've not been in grad school, though my 186 credits should have bought me one! :eek:
post #13 of 81
What are the degrees at French universities?

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post #14 of 81
Thanks all of you for your answers.
post #15 of 81
I'm 28, have Bachelor's and Master's degrees, and a Ph.D, and yet I'm still utterly capable of being an immature, annoying idiot who makes pointless posts and snickers at innuendo.

[Sheesh. I sound almost proud of that fact. This place is a bad influence.]

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post #16 of 81
Associates Degree

About two years of classes at a college.


BS is a Bachelors of Science
BA is a Bachelors of Arts

These are 4 year college degrees. Some schools only give out BAs. So you may end up with BA in physics or chemistry but there is no difference in the end. Some are five year programs like a B of Architecture.

MA/MS is a Masters of Arts/Science.

It's a (about) two year degree after the BA/BS. Most often you do not do a dissertation for the Masters but many place require some type of paper.


Ph.D. Doctorate of Philosophy (in a given subject).

The PhD indicates a level of masters in a particular subject. Could take 4-(some never finish) after the BA/BS, take off two or three for the MA/MS. The most important part of which is the dissertation. The dissertation is supposed to be an original contribution to the field of study. In many program is comes after the MA?MS. But many people "going for" the PhD just skip the masters. Some get it along the way. My program offers a master but does seek students looking to get a masters. So we just skip the process, would slow us down in the end.

MBA is some kind of hazing ritual.
post #17 of 81
[quote]Originally posted by Scott H.:
<strong>Associates Degree

About two years of classes at a college.


BS is a Bachelors of Science
BA is a Bachelors of Arts

These are 4 year college degrees. Some schools only give out BAs. So you may end up with BA in physics or chemistry but there is no difference in the end. Some are five year programs like a B of Architecture.

MA/MS is a Masters of Arts/Science.

It's a (about) two year degree after the BA/BS. Most often you do not do a dissertation for the Masters but many place require some type of paper.


Ph.D. Doctorate of Philosophy (in a given subject).

The PhD indicates a level of masters in a particular subject. Could take 4-(some never finish) after the BA/BS, take off two or three for the MA/MS. The most important part of which is the dissertation. The dissertation is supposed to be an original contribution to the field of study. In many program is comes after the MA?MS. But many people "going for" the PhD just skip the masters. Some get it along the way. My program offers a master but does seek students looking to get a masters. So we just skip the process, would slow us down in the end.

MBA is some kind of hazing ritual.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks for your explanations, it appears that the term doctor of philosophy (in different subjects) have a different signification than In France. In France doctor in phylosophy means that you have study phylosophy like Platon.
the equivalence of doctor of phylosophy is doctor es (sciences or litterature or medecine)
In order to be a doctor you have also to make also a dissertation who is also supposed to be an original contribution to sciences.
post #18 of 81
PowerDoc: you're what we in the 'States call a "professional student."
post #19 of 81
31 and another PhD here. And it looks to me like there's an inverse relation between education level and board maturity.
post #20 of 81
[quote]Originally posted by Mac The Fork:
<strong>What are the degrees at French universities?

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first in France the words College and Bacalaureat (bachelor) have a very different signification :
- bacalaureat (we said simply the bac) is the final exam that you normally pass at the age of 18 in orde to have the right to enter in university
- college is the school where you go from the age of 12 to 15 (4 years) than you enters in the lycee for 3 years with the bac for final exam. If you succeed the bacalaureat you have the title of Bachelier (no one use this title)

After there is different systems (quite hard for me also)
they are what we call the great schools (les grandes ecoles) : our best engineers come from this great schools (polytechnique, centrale, arts et metiers) or our best commercials (HEC : hautes etudes de commerce) and our best (for study only ...) fonctionnary come from ENA (like our president and prime minister)
In order to go in a high school , you must be in a "Classe préparatoire" for one or 2 years;

There is also universities :
deug : 2 years of study in a non specific aera
BTS : brevet technicien superieur : 2 years also but in a specialized matter : can find a specialised job with that diploma : example BTS of electronic
DUT , diplome universitaire technique : same thing than BTS but at a higher level (the best element of DUT have the right to go to un high school of engineer (but not the better ones)
license : 3 years of study (no expertise at all : just general knowledge in physics , or litterature for example)
maitrise (master) 4 years of study : like the license but one year more (you have to get the license first)
DEA : 6 years like the maitrise
DESS : same thing but in a more specialized aera wich suit better the world of enterprise
Doctorat : after a DEA or DESS : 2 to 4or more years of study dedicated in writhing a thesis (a n supposed original contribution to sciences or litterature )

Sorry but the system is very hard to understand even for me, because there is too different system, a normal one and an elitist one. We have also an ultra elitist system, it's normal sup, which is supposed to have the cream of the cream (only a few people 10 to 20 for all the France in different matter, math, sciences ...)
I expect that i do not annoy you with a so much complicated system.

If you want i will said to you how does it work for medical study (different also)
post #21 of 81
[quote]Originally posted by BuonRotto:
<strong>PowerDoc: you're what we in the 'States call a "professional student." </strong><hr></blockquote>

Don't ask me to do it again
post #22 of 81
I'm 27 and have a BS in ecology and environmental policy. I may get my masters at some point.
post #23 of 81
[quote]Originally posted by BRussell:
<strong>31 and another PhD here. And it looks to me like there's an inverse relation between education level and board maturity.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Only teens should write on this board

post #24 of 81
That's what happens when you lock yourself away at the age of 18.

The Institute for Advanced Study has some of the most immature post- Ph.D. people you could ever meet. It's an amazing menagerie of folks, some of whom have no idea how privileged they are and no sense of reality outside academia.
post #25 of 81
42 in April and I have a Bachelor's of Fine Arts degree...a lot of f*cking good that's doing me now...

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post #26 of 81
21 or over? Check.
Degree? Check.
post #27 of 81
Born in '75. 26 years old. No degree, 3 years of college though...
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post #28 of 81
21 AND A HALF, last semester of college... I will have my degree unless I royally f--k up.
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post #29 of 81
Over 21.
BSEE
post #30 of 81
I'll be 26 in a week and a half. I've got a B.S. in psychology, an M.S. in clinical psych and I'm on my way to a Ph.D in clinical psych. 2 more years of school for me.... I hope...
post #31 of 81
to clarify (though I alone care)

BA -in Philosphy
MA- Intermedia Arts
MFA- Intermedia Arts

oh yeah and an AA in film.

and I took some tennis lessons once and got a certificate :cool:
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post #32 of 81
27 & Bachelor's of Architecture
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post #33 of 81
A lot of B Archs here.
post #34 of 81
Lots of Pile it Higher and Deeper's too... (PhD's)
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Ah, young I feel. I'm only 19 (going on 20), and I'm 2 years and a quarter from a BA in Political Science. I just hope that this forum doesn't stratify into an ageist community. I mean, are all of you so much more mature because you can drink alcohol legally?
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post #37 of 81
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[quote]Originally posted by agent302:
<strong>I mean, are all of you so much more mature because you can drink alcohol legally?</strong><hr></blockquote>

No, but that's a plus.
Anyhoo, to clarify my reason for starting this thread:

Having just travelled the long road from the beginning of high school to the end of college, I've noticed a huge change in my thoughts, maturity, and wisdom on some things. That said, there IS a difference between the 14-16 year olds of these boards, and the 21 plusses.

When I was 15, I too would have said, "age doesn't have anything to do with maturity level." And to an extent, it doesn't. Real-life wisdom is a whole different matter. (NOTE: I never said anything in my original post about maturity) The truth be told, there's a lot of maturity that I probably don't even have. I haven't had kids, I don't have a "real job" yet, car payments, or the like. I'm sure those people on these boards will tell you that your life "experience" jumps light years when you have a kid and have to be responsible for a child's life.

Now, agent302, you're almost 20. Is there a huge difference between you and me (at 22)? Maybe, maybe not. But the age line had to be drawn somewhere, and 21 seemed like a good spot (chosen from my own experience).

You all under 21: Don't get yourselves in a tizzy because you think we over 21 are looking down on you. We're not, because we understand that there's certain life experiences you haven't had to deal with. On the same account, though, understand that we over 21 (or roundabouts that age) have a clearer outlook on a lot of things because we've "been around the block."

Thank you. Who else?
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post #38 of 81
CosmoNut, you seem to be saying that everyone matures at the same rate and has certain life experiences at a given age. I know some teenagers who have probably had more "real-life" experiences then anyone else on these boards. Just a thought.
post #39 of 81
28 years old.
B.A. Political Science
J.D. (Law Degree)
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post #40 of 81
CosmoNut:

I do understand why you started this forum, and I agree, there does at times seem to be a propensity of immature posting. I just felt the need to illustrate the arbitraryness of age (and time in general; I'm not the biggest fan of New Years, seems just like any other day). I think that we should approach all forum members is if we had no knowledge of their age, and judge immaturity from there. When they seem immature, ignore them. But this forum, while well meaning, has a potential for stratifying AI. I hope (and think) that it won't. I just wanted to get the idea out in the open.

(and when I said, "going on 20," that's if 6 months is "going on" )
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