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I bet there's a chill wind blowing up that guy's shorts tonight.

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It's eminently possible Apple authorized him to 'leak' this info.
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Either he is complicit with Apple or he is one of the reason paper media is not doing well. How brain dead, or arrogant can you be? I just feel sorry for the guys from McGraw-Hill who actually did the negotiations and understood the requirements of keeping their mouths shut. I'm sure they will have great difficulty in the future of getting the best deals from Apple. Meanwhile this fool will get his bonus and probably leave to go to work for some other board.
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I'm not sure I agree with you but your argument certainly does have merit. From what I can tell, McGraw-Hill's marketshare looks to be about 40% for the financials segment and 35% for the educations segment. I have to concede that would be a smart play.

Maybe a smart play for Apple, but why would McGraw-Hill play along? What do they have to gain by enticing other publishers to get onboard? They'd lose the differentiator of being on Apple's device and just create more competition for themselves.
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are you sure about that?

I cant speak for everyone but i have to assume your computer needs extend beyond basic word/powerpoint. I use my hackintosh for lecture note taking, Photoshop CS4 for fun, and Windows 7 on the other partition so i can do all my programming homework and to run those lovely little programs that come bundled with my exorbitantly priced textbook.

Now if this tablet does all that, which i severely doubt it will running on the iPhone OS then yes i wouldn't need a computer at all
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Maybe the talks between Apple and MH broke down a while ago and he's just talking out of his ass... both for the same reason.

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That right there is the biggest problem. Our community college is adopting a new program in 2 years where they will be purchasing 30k+ ebooks for students (price reflected in tuition of course) and every book is supposedly sold at 25 to 45 bucks which is significantly cheaper than your average 130 dollar textbook.

For this tablet to be successful for education (30% education discount maybe?) it cant be outrageously priced and its as simple as that, especially since you will STILL need a computer in conjunction with this. If its reasonably priced i could see it being a hit in schools.

You're forgetting about the grey market, alternative eBooks to the publishers proscribed models and the fact that any computer in the world (including an iPhone), can read a PDF file.

This is (hopefully) the same as the music and video markets. The dinosaur companies will be enticed in by the shiny profits not realising they are about to be hit by an asteroid called the free market.

The book publishing industry just went through a ten year period where all the small publishers were knocked off by the big ones and now one or two companies own the whole lot. Today's publishers have zero competition and set prices however they like. New books are hardly produced at all, the publishers just put fins on the old ones. The market is generally dying a slow death.

If Steve stays true to form and Apple isn't totally corrupt, the tablet might see the advent of real price competition in those markets, new independent publishers, authors actually getting the lions share of the money for their work, and almost certainly the death of some of the gigantic publishing concerns we have to deal with today.

Good riddance, I say.
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Maybe a smart play for Apple, but why would McGraw-Hill play along? What do they have to gain by enticing other publishers to get onboard? They'd lose the differentiator of being on Apple's device and just create more competition for themselves.

I see your point, but if he did want to give his company a leg up without making their competition react then why say anything at all about it. There simply are a plethora of reasons the CEO would want to be the spill the beans. Off the top of my head: opportunist seeking the spotlight, free press for him or MH, and/or hubris in thinking their dominance will not be matched.
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[QUOTE=Mazda 3s;1557408]This thread needs more Erin Burnett /QUOTE]

First, Erin said, she likes the smell of her own...

Second, Erin hates Apple, she's always slamming the iPhone. If she was any good as a financial reporter she would have jumped all over the revelation and dug for more details.

Third, the McGraw Hill guy probably knows only 10% of the deal. So what if it does textbooks. So what if it runs the iPhone APIs. That doesn't mean it won't run desktop apps. He only knows what Apple wanted him to know which is only the stuff relevant to textbooks.
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"Now, with the tabloid, you're gonna open up the higher education tablet..."

TABLOID as a NAME???

I was thinking the same thing when he slipped that in. he did correct it to 'the tablet' but I wonder if it wasn't more telling than a simple slip.

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I was thinking the same thing when he slipped that in. he did correct it to 'the tablet' but I wonder if it wasn't more telling than a simple slip.

I hope not. Tabloid is 11" x 17". Plus it has questionable connotations.

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Yesterday the New York TImes reported that the Times was customizing an e-version for use with "reader applications," although it's been widely reported that Apple and the NYT have been working together on this project for a year. While McGraw-Hill's CEO was less coy than the Times has been, his comments really don't add to what others have already confirmed about the iPad. So... I don't anticipate any spankings for this guy.
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Can I buy you some sense of humor?

(Don't be predictable in your response).

Humor is free, his comment wasn't funny. I said "though", I meant "tough". I.E. Whether Jobs is pissed or not who cares.
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Either he is complicit with Apple or he is one of the reason paper media is not doing well. How brain dead, or arrogant can you be? I just feel sorry for the guys from McGraw-Hill who actually did the negotiations and understood the requirements of keeping their mouths shut. I'm sure they will have great difficulty in the future of getting the best deals from Apple. Meanwhile this fool will get his bonus and probably leave to go to work for some other board.

He's not Apple savvy - more to the point, I can't even imagine that this guy has met Jobs.
If he has? Well, he didn't absorb much at the meeting. Jobs still hasn't managed to settle down, still ranting and raving, throwing stuff around - well, it's what I imagine he's doin'!
I'm positive this guy knows nothing of the hundreds of forums waiting for THE 'announcement' - from Steve.
This is the type of CEO who wouldn't know a HDD from a SSD - idiot.
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It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that the tablet will run the iPhone OS and not OS X. The tablet, by its very nature, is not suited to running programs that make sense on a laptop or destop.

It's simple, really. Set up the device to run Mac OS and inevitably there are fools out in the wild who try to run programs on the device which it simply can't run at all well. They will then complain that the thing isn't working well.

Instead, Apple will deliberately limit the tablet to the tasks for which it is suited, which are many.

Many have complained that if the Tablet is a Touch with a larger screen, they'll be disappointed. Prepare to be disappointed. But it should be noted that the good news is that being as the tablet will not be designed to replace a full-feature laptop, it will be priced accordingly, i.e. below $700.

My guess is a 7-inch screen to achieve the desired price point, as opposed to the rumoured 10-inch screen. $500 would be a good long-term price target with a price a little higher likely to start. Two memory capacities and you've got price points between the Touch and a MacBook covered.

Don't think of it as merely a bigger Touch. Think of it as a great portable device for browsing, reading, gaming, organizing, notetaking, viewing movies, sharing photos, and so on. This is all stuff that you can do more or less now with a Touch but the screen is just too small to do all of the above comfortably. The tablet would change all of that. Combine that with a price below $700 and Apple won't be able to build them fast enough.

Those complaining because the device can't run Mac OS will only be making fools of themselves in that it will in no way hinder this unit's marketability.

A jumbo Touch a game-changing device?

Bet on it.
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But OMG, that voice. She sounds like a Valley Girl on amphetamines.
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I was thinking the same thing when he slipped that in. he did correct it to 'the tablet' but I wonder if it wasn't more telling than a simple slip.

I can somewhat see how the CEO of a larger publishing house might get some inside info on this thing, but I have a hard time see how they'd get access to the nomenclature. I can't imagine it's that easy to choose a name these these days in a global market.

For instance, Apple can't call even use the AirPort in Japan, the AppleTV was introduced as the iTV noting that name was already in use and Cisco argued for the I-phone trademark rights. And as I recall there is already a debate on the validity of an old trademark for iTablet or iPad.
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Sure, but what will be taken away from Jobs' presentation is the slide that shows McGraw-Hill as one of the companies Apple has been working with. I wouldn't be surprised if Steve is going through is presentation right now and removing all mention of McGraw-Hill from it. Remember the Phil not-so-subtly showed the slide off all the carriers that would have MMS and tethering and giving people plenty of time to realize that ATT wasn't on that slide? It was so obvious that the audience actually started laughing about it. That will be McGraw-Hill tomorrow.

It could go either way in my book. But I'm sure many of remember the video folks that bragged about being the number one option on a new product a few years back? As I recall, Steve was so pissed about that one that he pulled the plug on that companies video card option as a BTO and made sure people knew why.
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It was a deliberate pr stunt. Notice on the bottom of the screen they flash "apple tablet mcgraw hill blah blah blah " about 5 seconds before she even asks the question.

Therefore > he already knew she was going to ask the question and she already knew the answer to the question and the tv producers already knew ahead of time to put the label on the screen.

Analysis complete.

Peace out.
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Yesterday the New York TImes reported that the Times was customizing an e-version for use with "reader applications," although it's been widely reported that Apple and the NYT have been working together on this project for a year. While McGraw-Hill's CEO was less coy than the Times has been, his comments really don't add to what others have already confirmed about the iPad. So... I don't anticipate any spankings for this guy.

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I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating Cheetos (you probably wouldn't either )

She wouldn't be in bed with either one of us, she appears to play for the other team..... But she apparently would gladly take our money to fly her and her parents around...
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It was a deliberate pr stunt. Notice on the bottom of the screen they flash "apple tablet mcgraw hill blah blah blah " about 5 seconds before she even asks the question.

Therefore > he already knew she was going to ask the question and she already knew the answer to the question and the tv producers already knew ahead of time to put the label on the screen.

Analysis complete.

Peace out.

Then why was the video pulled?
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Then why was the video pulled?

because CNBC probably getting slashdotted on that streaming video right now.
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It was a deliberate pr stunt. Notice on the bottom of the screen they flash "apple tablet mcgraw hill blah blah blah " about 5 seconds before she even asks the question.

Therefore > he already knew she was going to ask the question and she already knew the answer to the question and the tv producers already knew ahead of time to put the label on the screen.

Analysis complete.

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All that means is it was not a slip of the tongue. The guy could still be an idiot.

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It was a deliberate pr stunt. Notice on the bottom of the screen they flash "apple tablet mcgraw hill blah blah blah " about 5 seconds before she even asks the question.

Therefore > he already knew she was going to ask the question and she already knew the answer to the question and the tv producers already knew ahead of time to put the label on the screen.

Analysis complete.

Peace out.

Welcome to the forum.

Without watching the video again, using Occam's Bongwater, it makes sense to assume the banner was added after the fact, as in after the recording was made.
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Welcome to AI.

All that means is it was not a slip of the tongue. The guy could still be an idiot.

While CEO of McGraw-Hill in 2008, Harold W. McGraw, III earned a total compensation of $8,245,136 which included a base salary of $1,350,000, no cash bonus, stocks granted of $3,108,604, options granted of $3,155,705, and other compensation of $630,827.

He's no idiot.

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Third, the McGraw Hill guy probably knows only 10% of the deal. So what if it does textbooks. So what if it runs the iPhone APIs. That doesn't mean it won't run desktop apps. He only knows what Apple wanted him to know which is only the stuff relevant to textbooks.

Exactly. What does the CEO of the company know about the OS, or the features of the tablet, or the hardware, or anything else other than what he's been told by his assistants and a few people at Apple. They already have 95% of their stuff in eBooks suitable for the iPhone OS so he's simply saying that it will be just like that, probably thinking it will need the exact iPhone OS to run them.

He's probably been told something like "it will run 'like' the iPhone OS" and he turns around and says it will BE the iPhone OS. Plus, many reports have said the tablet will run most iPhone apps basically as-is, but that doesn't mean that the entire tablet is on the iPhone OS as we know it.

One CEO. For books. Nothing to learn from this.

Mac OS X. Ideal for Macintosh computers

iPhone OS - Ideal for small, mobile "computers"

What's in between? Find out tomorrow. Don't worry about what the CEO of a mostly dead-tree publishing company has to say.
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because CNBC probably getting slashdotted on that streaming video right now.

It's been down for hours. It would have been back by now.

Apple's ninjas are out in force.
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She wouldn't be in bed with either one of us, she appears to play for the other team..... But she apparently would gladly take our money to fly her and her parents around...

You talking about Windows as the 'other team' - right?
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While CEO of McGraw-Hill in 2008, Harold W. McGraw, III earned a total compensation of $8,245,136 which included a base salary of $1,350,000, no cash bonus, stocks granted of $3,108,604, options granted of $3,155,705, and other compensation of $630,827.

He's no idiot.


Intergenerational wealth sometimes comes with genetic defects.

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But OMG, that voice. She sounds like a Valley Girl on amphetamines.

You mean, like, Totally Tableture?

"So, I was like at the mall and all, and there was like this Apple Store thingy and it looked so totally cool that I, like, just couldn't believe it, so, like, I like texted him, and like this Steve guy, like answered and like he like totally is gonna like even teach me like to be way cooler! I mean like, I don't care or like even know how much they like cost, 'cause like, you know, Daddy said I could get one 'cause, well, like, it's cool!"

Something like that?

You wouldn't believe how many conversations I heard like the one above in the mall close by on the day the original iPhone came out.
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. . . and in the event of a violation of our disclosure agreement or a leak of information before the Event Date, the profit sharing percentage will be adjusted downward by 5% for each violation"
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While CEO of McGraw-Hill in 2008, Harold W. McGraw, III earned a total compensation of $8,245,136 which included a base salary of $1,350,000, no cash bonus, stocks granted of $3,108,604, options granted of $3,155,705, and other compensation of $630,827.

He's no idiot.


Have you considered the possibility that nepotism has anything to do with his position or salary?
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While CEO of McGraw-Hill in 2008, Harold W. McGraw, III earned a total compensation of $8,245,136 which included a base salary of $1,350,000, no cash bonus, stocks granted of $3,108,604, options granted of $3,155,705, and other compensation of $630,827.

He's no idiot.


No. It just means he makes more than you do. There are a whole lot of secretaries and other supposedly lesser former employees of MS that are millionaires. They received considerable options when said options were the easiest way to get hourly or lower salaried people to work their arse off for promises of later glory. These people for the most part were not idiots, but they weren't necessarily geniuses either.

Plus, you do realize that few upper level executives handle their own pay package negotiations, right? Right?
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I can somewhat see how the CEO of a larger publishing house might get some inside info on this thing, but I have a hard time see how they'd get access to the nomenclature. I can't imagine it's that easy to choose a name these these days in a global market.

For instance, Apple can't call even use the AirPort in Japan, the AppleTV was introduced as the iTV noting that name was already in use and Cisco argued for the I-phone trademark rights. And as I recall there is already a debate on the validity of an old trademark for iTablet or iPad.

I think they might use the one they already own - iBook

Place your bets here!
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This from CNET's Erica Ogg - what you should know about The Apple Way

'All of those are the kinds of details Steve Jobs typically leaves for himself to reveal. For those unfamiliar with the Apple way: the company has basically zero tolerance for talking about products before they're ready. In other words, we can assume that McGraw isn't getting a holiday card from Jobs this year. In an incident that's become almost legendary in the Apple community, back in 2000, graphics chipmaker ATI, now owned by AMD, issued a press release that made reference to a Power Mac yet to be introduced by Apple. Jobs was said to be livid and omitted any mention of ATI from his keynote.'

As you said earlier JustifyBob
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Not only is she not 'that' hot, she's a gold digger, it seems.

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Figures... Erin is such a IAP name. I'd like to take her into the woods.
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