Apple reveals long-awaited multi-touch 'iPad' - Page 12

Originally Posted by kylebarker

m surprised they chose to launch it with a reworked version of iWorks (Apples version of MS Office) and not iLife since the rest of the iPad is geared for casual use (music, video, photos, email, web).

Originally Posted by desarc


seriously though, they could have included some touch sensitive controls in that HUGE bezel - timeline scrub, volume up/down, scroll / game controls, etc.

Originally Posted by idanceapps

Also, there is no mention if current desktop apps (like photoshop) could be run in this thing. . .apparently not. .. so what is the point?

Originally Posted by antkm1

I have the same feelings about this device that i did for the ATV. Love it in concept, but just not enough features for me to buy.

likes:

• love the form factor, weight, interface and design.
• I'm so sick of these idiots out there trolling on the bezel. it's to keep your gorilla thumbs off the screen so you aren't constantly 2-fingering the touch screen. Gosh!
• ibooks, but if it's only compatible with ibooks format, it's a fail. no iMagazine? I subscribe to lots of journals, would be nice to have them all on my iPad or my iPhone for that matter.
• dock - i'm glad apple recognized the necessity of the phyical keyboard, but why no docking in landscape mode? seems stupid if you're watching a video/tv/movie in the dock and can't rotate it. I think the dock will evolve so it's more like a laptop design, maybe even an adjustible viewing position. basically a lap-top keyboard with a hinge for the iPad to dock with.

dislikes:

• no multi tasking
• no camera
• no phone app - i mean, if you're going to make it 3G, why not include the phone
• no handwriting recog. in the notes app. would be nice for taking notes for students.
• no wireless sync with my PC. would be nice if i could just sync or stream content from my computer to the iPad, like the ATV does.
• No file sharing with my PC or access.

Overall i can't say i'm underwhelmed because i kind of figured this is what we'd get. However, i kind of hoped they would throw a couple curve balls at us. i think everyone predicted what we would be getting months ago.

Originally Posted by chwhale

It isn't a netbook killer.

Originally Posted by rhowarth

But most people DON'T type for hours on end. If they do, they'd use a laptop (or desktop). That's not what the iPad is for. Typical home users spend most of their time browsing the web, watching photos, listening to music, etc., maybe even reading the occasional eBook. About all the typing they do is enter their credit card when purchasing something off the Internet and the odd email. For them it's ideal, apart maybe for the lack of Flash support. My son plays a LOT of Flash games on the web :-)

Originally Posted by digitlnoize

Thoughts from a Medical Student:

As a professional student and techie, here's what I think:

1. If I can't take notes onto my books and insert pages of notes INTO my books, this thing is 100% worthless to me as a student. How hard is it?

2. I'd seriously like some better voice recognition AND voice "reading." This thing should be able to read my books or notes to me while I'm exercising or reading something else. Seriously. I don't have a lot of time, med school is hard. Please make my life easier.

3. Hulu would have been nice.

4. I don't really care about lack of multitasking. If you use well designed iPhone apps you don't notice it. The only example people seem to be able to give me is Pandora + Web browsing...I can browse and listen to iTunes songs simultaneously, so who needs crappy Pandora?

5. More video support would have been nice. I've heard there's no .mkv support. True?

6. Camera-Shmamera. I have cameras. If it had one, it'd just suck like the iPhone one anyways. If I need a camera, I'll use one. Like I need to be Skyping from Starbucks while I'm trying to read, anyways...sheesh. That's what phones are for people!

7. GPS would have been nice. Maybe it'll be in the 3G enabled versions.

Until I'm able to take notes on my books, I will NOT be getting one.

Originally Posted by Chris_CA

None of the hype was generated by Apple.

Originally Posted by Carmissimo

A couple of thoughts. One is that Apple nailed the most important detail, namely price.

The basic model with 16G and no 3G will still be quite useful for many of us. That Apple got the pricing right and still will deliver a good quality, decent-sized screen, is rather impressive.

The other thought is that this device could, potentially, help bring about a resurgence in the popularity of the desktop. A desktop system in combination with the iPad makes a lot of sense. More portable than a laptop and with better battery life. By not trying to be a computer that happens to work anywhere, the device eliminates some of the trade-offs that laptops impose on us. At the same time, it is a handy product that does a lot of what people were in fact using laptops for.

Compared to a PC netbook, this thing will look good. My netbook can barely deliver two hours of battery life and it has a significantly inferior display. It's running inferior technology (no LED backlighting or IPS) and a resolution of 1024X600 compared to the iPad's 1024X768. The iPad is more money but also a higher-quality device all around. Also, longer battery life means fewer charge cycles and that means the battery will take a lot longer to wear out and require replacing. Over the long haul, that could offset the initial higher price.

This device will be very successful because Apple gets it, especially when it comes to price. As a shareholder, I'm quite pleased.

Originally Posted by iGenius

Yep. IMO, that relegates it to toy status. But for $499, it looks like a fun toy.

Originally Posted by beakernx01

Here's a thought. If I already have an iPhone for which I pay AT&T $30/month for UNLIMITED data, I think I shouldn't have to pay again to get UNLIMITED data, or any data, on the iPad. My reasoning is this. If you are using your iPad, it's unlikely you will be using your iPhone simultaneously. I suppose you could get a phone call while you're on your iPad, but that's not data, that's voice. So technically, I'm still only using one stream of data at a time on an Apple 3G device on the AT&T network. On stream of data = one UNLIMITED data plan. Anyone buying this logic?

Originally Posted by zanshin


Let's face it, nothing it's missing can't be added in a HW/OS update or thru an app.

Originally Posted by Carmissimo

t that does a lot of what people were in fact using laptops for.

Compared to a PC netbook, this thing will look good. My netbook can barely deliver two hours of battery life and it has a significantly inferior display. It's running inferior technology (no LED backlighting or IPS) and a resolution of 1024X600 compared to the iPad's 1024X768. The iPad is more money but also a higher-quality device all around. Also, longer battery life means fewer charge cycles and that means the battery will take a lot longer to wear out and require replacing. Over the long haul, that could offset the initial higher price.

This device will be very successful because Apple gets it, especially when it comes to price. As a shareholder, I'm quite pleased.

Originally Posted by anantksundaram

Very good analysis from Pogue: http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/...t-impressions/

The guy gets to the point.

Originally Posted by Frank777

I haven't heard anything about the Adobe apps. PS is already available on the App Store, but has there been any word on Illustrator or InDesign?

In the old days, Apple would dare debut something like this without Adobe at the demo.
How the mighty have fallen.

I would imagine Cocoa competitors like Lineform must have an edge here. Can they capitalize?

Originally Posted by scavanger

Sigh... still no flash plug in eh? Talk about useless then.

Originally Posted by mstone

That's all it appears to be good for. Super casual computing. The iWork stuff looks like it would be really frustrating as does the paint app. Phil - "the best word processor ever"??? Anything that requires a lot of precision is going to be a pain in the ass trying to accomplish on that device. Just like the iPhone is frustrating for composing long emails, cut and paste or getting the cursor where you want it. And if you are going to leave it attached to the keyboard, you might as well have a MacBook. Of course it is a bit less expensive but so is a crappy Windows PC. You get what you pay for I guess.

Originally Posted by mstone

I wonder how long it will take after the release for it to be jailbroken.

Originally Posted by rhowarth

This looks like it could be a VERY interesting consumer device.

Sure, tablets in one form or another have been around for ages, but they were the kind of thing spotty faced geeks might play with for a bit and soon get bored with because they couldn't do anything useful with them, not the sort of thing your wife or g/f or kids or mom will be lusting after and putting top of their Christmas lists for the next few years, and trust me, they WILL lust after the iPad. Big time. Minimalist styling and a silky smooth design that fits smoothly in the hand is EXACTLY what they want. Better start saving now...

"Only a big iPod Touch"... right. So what from a marketing perspective is wrong with that? Any idea exactly how many iPods are out there, and how many millions and millions of people are already familiar with the interface? Not to mention 100,000 apps available for it from day one.

No camera and video iChat? This is the 1st gen device, they're here for the long haul. And that's before you factor in things like eBooks and micropayments for magazine subscriptions.

I too was a bit underwhelmed when I first saw the specs, but the more I think about it the more convinced I am this will be HUGE and that in 3 or 4 years the iPad will be as ubiquitous as iPods are today.

Originally Posted by BenRoethig

Jobs said it was the most important thing he had done.

Originally Posted by rollerborges

Um .... they come "jailbroken".

Originally Posted by BenRoethig

Jobs said it was the most important thing he had done.

Originally Posted by rollerborges

Um .... they come "jailbroken".

Originally Posted by anantksundaram

As a non-brain dead CEO of a major company introducing a major new product, that is exactly what you'd expect him to say. If you're taken in by that sort of thing, I feel badly for you - you must get disappointed a lot in life.

Originally Posted by iGenius

Just take the SIM from your iPhone and plug it into the 'Pad. No? Not compatible? Thanks Steve!

Originally Posted by pixelcruncher

Capitalize on what? There's no market for professional level image editing, vector based illustration, or page layout on the i-devices. I've never understood why people think that people who use design software want to use it on a tiny screen by poking at it with our fingers. Keyboard shortcuts (or functions mapped to Wacom buttons), dozens of palettes and layers, and image sizes and rendering that make a 8-core Mac Pro churn aren't very practical on an i-device.

Originally Posted by zindako

The numbers will work themselves out, all the other products on the market, your Archos, Joojoo's, we'll see which product takes off and moves the market, will it be the iPad? only time will tell. If there is any multimedia device I purchase, it will be the iPad. Nothing else compares.

Originally Posted by ascii

I watch a video in Flash and it uses 80% cpu and same video in Quicktime uses 30%. If you support Flash, you associate yourself with crap.

Originally Posted by Scaramanga89

I spend quite a while typing while I surf, for example, what are you doing now?

Originally Posted by BenRoethig

Jobs said it was the most important thing he had done.

Originally Posted by perrin21

Have your say and share your thoughts. Would you buy and Ipad. Let us know here http://www.techreviewonlineforum.com...forum-f18.html

Originally Posted by Katonah

Elegance is unimportant
Quality is irrelevant
Design is meaningless
Value is only definable in dollars
Simplicity equals mediocrity.

Yes, THANK GOD for the geniuses that have been so kind to inform me today of how stupid and wasteful this and all Apple products are!!!

Originally Posted by DaHarder

[CENTER]Like I said, I'll be buying one ASAP, but...

I really do wish that the iPad at least had:

1. a modern display aspect ratio (16x9 or16x10)

2. at least a front facing camera for video conferencing.

3. a media card reader of some sort

It's not like even the lowliest of (US 250.00) netbooks is lacking these modern computing device essentials.

Oh Well... That's Apple For Ya'

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Originally Posted by Quadra 610

Finally!

And so the tablet revolution begins . . .